It’s not like we’re just assuming things or making stuff up.......
the author herself said he’s a rival to the ML....
She even included his hand on the cover and added a new keyword: ‘second ML' which is always used when a character has romantic feelings for the MC ...
And right now, we don’t even know when his feelings started to shift from pity and sadness for his situation to romantic or sexual desire..
since we know he met him when he was still a child, and watched him grow little by little ..
it’s completely natural to see him more like a real brother than a love interest. ..
We truly love their relationship the way it is — there’s no need to ruin it ....
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Honestly, I didn’t like the story at all for several reasons... At first, I thought it was good, and I was looking forward to seeing how the MC would begin to understand emotions over time, and how his feelings toward the ML would gradually change...
But making him sleep with other people — that was just too much.
The first time might be somewhat acceptable, since he still didn’t understand what was wrong or what he truly felt... so you could overlook it.
But the second time? It was just absolutely disgusting and unnecessary. ...
It completely made me lose interest.
I rushed through the rest of the story and didn’t even bother to read the side stories.....
What’s the point of making the MC sleep with someone else like that near the end of the story?
And the ML’s reaction was so unrealistic and strange…
he sleeps with him again while the cum of that guy is still dripping from him...
That’s just revolting.
It honestly ruined the entire story for me...
Exactly, it made my stomach churn and I just rushed to finish it coz I need to know the ending. And idk, maybe it's the art but I can't properly feel the turmoil in MC, after that happened. Like there's this micro trembling shown with wavy lines but it's kinda stoic, like he seems upset and a bit panicked but I have to assume he's panicked... I can't really see it...idk I can't explain it well. He also, doesn't scramble at all. And why does he author have to show all that dripping...lol. The ML is so understanding immediately that it's rare.
That’s just my opinion...
Taeyang deserves better....
He’s incredibly attractive — handsome, charming, bright, understanding, and kind...
I honestly don’t get why he’s still holding on to someone like that.
Okay, i feel really bad for you and i understand your past trauma and bad experiences — and yeh fuck your basterd father
But that’s not an excuse to hurt others,
especially someone who loves you this much.
Are you afraid he’ll go through what you went through?
You don’t want him to suffer like you did?
Really?
Then be a man and break up with him clearly,
don’t just abandon him like a coward...
That’s exactly why Taeyang can’t move on.
He can’t even get it up anymore.
Even the doctor said it’s psychological...
So tell me — is it right to hurt someone who loves you so deeply,
while you’ve already moved on, have a child, and sleep around freely .... that not fair
And even when he saw you again, he understood everything...
All he asked was for you to go on seven dates with him,
to focus only on him — and if you didn’t like it, just tell him.
Was that really too hard?
Instead, you ran off like a coward to flirt with another man... and and ask him to sleep with you
Is that even a proper way to escape?
Instead of facing things like an adult, you just acted childish.
Honestly, I don’t even know who the real kid here
It’s not even logical to keep loving someone who abandoned you like that —
after all these years, and he’s still hurting you.
Oh, and the whole story just dosen't make sence in general...
And how just how a gay man — bottom ! Uke!
managed to sleep with a woman !? And have a kid !!
That’s just ridiculous ...
Anyway, I didn’t enjoy the story....
I only followed it to see how it would end....
Good thing it was short....
Ehhh sounds really bad. What a selfish, coward mf. And why is the other one such a doormat.
Let’s be fair here.
I honestly feel really bad for Horus.....
He’s truly a good person, and out of all the MLs in this story,
you could say he’s the only one who genuinely loves Seth from the bottom of his heart — and is willing to do anything for him.....
And let’s be real… Seth would’ve suffered a lot more if Horus hadn’t been there for him.....
But it's not like Seth asked for any of this....
And it's not like he's obligated to love him back...
Simply and very clearly — Seth doesn’t love Horus..
Yes, he just doesn’t love him....
He’s only going along with it — the same way you’d play along with a little kid....
And that’s not his fault....
Love isn’t something you can force....
I don’t even like Seth that much...
but if you're calling him a whore —
you seriously need to reread the story....
Because all I see is rape, from beginning to end.
Now about what happened in the last chapter...
I wasn’t expecting that....
Yes, his wife didn’t die and she was saved —
but if Horus had just been honest about it from the start, none of this would’ve happened....
As for Seth,
I did expect him to be angry, and even lash out at Horus,
but not like that.
That felt like something you’d do to your worst enemy —
not to someone who loves you deeply and sees you as their entire world.
It was just… too much....
So as I said earlier —
Seth simply doesn’t love him...
And honestly, I don’t even think he cares about him — not even a little bit.
That’s why I really don’t want them to end up together.
Seth wants his wife....
He doesn’t love Horus.
And Horus deserves someone who actually loves him back....
So if this story ends with them completely separated, I’ll be happy.
But knowing the author, they’ll probably drag things out for a while…
Horus won’t be waking up anytime soon...
and I guess Seth will give in for now and stay with that annoying bastard...
We’ll likely get more of those unpleasant scenes again…
until he knows what truly happened...
Honestly, I think I’ll just disappear and maybe come back after 10 years ....
im pretty sure somewhere along the way Seth developed true affection for Horus. the tipping point was probably in that one chapter when Horus confessed that the reason why he didnt want to accept full godhood and remained a demigod was because he wanted to remember Seth, the Seth who was a gaurdian god before all the crimes he committed. While certainly not as deep as Horus, I believe Seth still loves Horus. why else did he get upset when the engagement between Horus and Hathor wasn't completely nullified yet? plus Seth is probably gradually moving on from his ex wife
I don’t know… I guess it’s like this:
When someone loves you deeply and holds on to you —
when you know they’d never betray you and would do anything for you —
you start to hate the idea of losing them, or giving them to someone else.
That’s what’s happening with Seth.
But if he had to choose between his wife and Horus,
he would absolutely choose his wife — without hesitation.
That’s exactly what the last chapter showed.
If he truly loved Horus, even just a little,
he wouldn’t have hurt him like that — not even in anger.
Let’s imagine, for example, that his wife had killed Horus...
There’s no way he would’ve done the same thing to her.
Why?
Because he loves her...
He wouldn’t hurt her, even if he was blinded by rage...
Maybe I’m wrong… but that’s how I see it...
Yes! You wrote a great comment. I love your comment. I dont understand how Horus ever become more than Seth's wife at this point. Seth never hurt his wife but he is willing to hurt Horus for her. Seth would never do that to his wife. It just like what is the point if Hours is always going to second place and have to be hurt while his wife is never treated the same way. Horus always has to beg for his love while his wife doesn't even have to put in half the effort! After 2 season of this.
If he truly loved Horus he would never hurt like he never hurt his wife. Seth killed all those women because he could never hurt his real wife. If he is willing to hurt Horus then that means Horus is less than his wife. Horus deserves so much better than Seth but the author is too scared to change the story at this point. It would be make more sense to have Horus find a new lover and let Seth go back to his wife. Some one said in nest few chapters Seth's wife is going to reject Seth and I am like Huh, Seth should be the one rejecting his wife! Also if Seth goes with the FG it will be so disrespectful to Horus .......again!
The author/story make Seth and his wife love like the Great Wall of chna that Horus can never get over! At point I don't see how it can be fixed and showcase the Seth finally love more after he has done so much for his wife after 2 season I just so disappointed. Seth treated Horus like a side hoe that talked badly about his wife. Seth treated him worst than the FG!
Also I bet all Seth is going to do in the end of the story is say I'm sorry or I love you and that will be it. Horus deserved more than I'm sorry or I love you. Saying I love you/Im sorry is nothing compared to what Seth did!
Like I said before, the author is clearly dragging the story out....
Maybe they're aiming for 300 chapters or more.
And until that happens, I think Seth will stay with FG for now.
From his perspective, his wife is dead and the loyal little puppy who used to follow him is gone.
That’s reason enough for him to give in to FG...
(And maybe the author thinks we haven’t had enough scenes between them yet — so why not.)
Then I guess we’ll get an arc with that green guy
And yes, here we go again
Looks like this is going to go on for years....
Seth knows how fool Horus is — how much he loves him and follows him everywhere.
He knows Horus will never leave him, even if he treats him badly.....
That’s why he doesn’t care....
He doesn’t see him as a lover — not at all...
On the other hand, I actually wanted Horus to leave Seth for a while....
To grow as a person, to become stronger — so that Seth could see him as a mature man, not just a kid ...
But not like this.....
Not in such a heartbreaking, brutal way.
What happened honestly made me feel like...
there’s no future for them anymore.
It would make no sense at all for this story to end with Seth saying he loves Horus.
All I see — as you said — is his deep and overwhelming love for his wife.
And these recent chapters have made that perfectly clear....
Seth is willing to leave Horus — even kill him — just to get his wife back and be with her.
So I don’t think a “happy ending” has to mean they end up together....
In this case, I honestly think a happy ending would be for both of them to go their separate ways....
Yes totally agree he was willing to kill Horus for his wife. How can he ever get over that. Why would the author do that it doesn't make sense. The author wrote on twitter that HorusxSeth are endgame which is like.....HUH. It has to a really huge reason of why Horus should go back to him. I hate that the author makes Horus so weak and never makes him stand up for his self against Seth. I would be so proud of Horus if the author gave him a new lover who showed him what real love was, who never hurt him and would always put Horus first above anyone else. It would be so powerful to see for his character after Horus has been trying to find true love in Seth.
I would hate that and I can see it happen too! Then Seth is going to realize that the FG is jerk and that he should have stayed with Horus. Which will be so below someone as nice as Horus. I can see that happening to which makes me so mad. Because the author forces the FG in the story for no reason. She tries to makes the FG important to the story.
Yes, Horus needs a lot of development. The author never cared to development Horus character until now. Even then I feel like she is going to rush his development because deep down she doesn't care about him. Other character have had more development than Horus by now and he is the second lead of the story. I feel all the author is going to do is let Seth say 'I love you" and she thinks that will fix everything. This would have been better if this was called an adventure story instead of calling it bl/yaoi.
The whole point of this story was for Horus to finally win Seth heart but it's like the author throw the plot in the trash after this chapter. The only ways to fix it is if Seth finally kills his wife for Horus. Which we know would never happen and it would not make any sense for Seth's character to ever harm her after 2 season old his deep love for her.
Of course, that’s never going to happen...
In so many manhwas, there’s a general rule:
The ML must always stay loyal to the MC no matter what happens —
even if he’s mistreated or hurt.
So it’s impossible for him to fall in love with someone else or even sleep with anyone else.
Meanwhile, the MC can do whatever he wants… and it’ll all be justified...
This is actually the type of dynamic readers prefer these days...
So naturally, Horus will stay loyal and devoted to Seth for the rest of his life...
And if it’s truly confirmed that they’re “endgame,”
I really wonder how — after all this shit
we’re supposed to believe that Seth could ever love Horus.
Horus was never a priority for Seth...
We’re over 200 chapters in and there’s been no real development between them.
Even when Seth started to slowly open up to Horus,
the moment he heard something about his wife — he snapped.
So if they are endgame, then logically, the relationship should be built properly —
Maybe when we reach chapter 400... who knows.
Yeh, we’re going to hate this,
because we know Horus is endgame —
so seeing Seth with FG now is incredibly frustrating.
FG is an annoying bastard,
but the author wrote him as this mature, rational man you can rely on.
That’s why Seth decided to keep him around.
Meanwhile, Horus is still like a kid....
as you said,his character hasn’t developed at all —
he just clings to Seth constantly....
And yes honestly, I feel like the author has completely neglected his character.
If that’s the case, then why make him the end game
I don’t get it...
Seriously — do authors think the “happy ending” is all that matters?
I personally care more about the events that lead to the ending, not just the ending itself.
What’s the point of a “happy” ending if it’s built on frustrating events and one-sided suffering?
If the author goes down that route, the entire story will be ruined...
Yes, the last chapter was unexpected.
I honestly have no idea how they’re going to fix things from here —
especially when Seth’s one and only choice is still his wife, even if she ends up rejecting him....
It’s just not believable to suddenly shift emotions like that...
We’d need another 200 chapters just to make up for it.
Or maybe in the end, Horus will just accept the fact that he’ll always be the “leftover option” for the person he loves — and just like that ..
I don’t know. It’s just… depressing.
Yes! you get it!!!! we would need 200 chapters to make up for this because why would it believable that after this time(2 season) that Seth would suddenly love him more. It's makes no sense. It been 2 seasons of Seth loving his wife more then Horus. The story makes it seem like Seth wife is the one who got away and Horus is just the one Seth has to take because he cant get his wife. Yes it would make Horus the leftover options because Seth cant have his wife. The more you think about it the worst it becomes. Have you ever read Dear Door. I feel like Dear Door did a better job at making the character get over his ex wife with Cain. The uke would never do this to Cain.
I feel like the author likes the FG better with Seth because she feels he is more fun to write about. I think she think Horus is boring. I think author like Seth/FG better she is too scared to change it.
Yes, some people wanted Horus to be blind and still helping /forgiving Seth.
I was just reading Falling Sheep and it did not have a happy ending and it was really good. The ending made sense for the story. I am glad the author was not afraid to do that type of ending. The author never development Horus enough to make people care about his character outside of being Seth's boyfriend.
Yes, I’ve read Dear Door, and you’re right — the way the MC gradually moved on from his dead wife was handled well. It was believable and acceptable....
and that manhwa was generally good… but until
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yes, I agree with you on that too.
But It’s the author’s fault for making Horus's character stay this way — with no improvement, even after 200 chapters.
As readers, we can only hope for some real, unexpected growth in his character.
That’s why I think it’s best not to blindly side with a character just because we like them more
Let’s at least try to be fair...
Imagine going back to love someone who gouged out your eyes and left you blind —
that’s just not logical
Yes, I loved our conversation! Thank you so much! Have a good week! Eat ice cream for me!
Yes, the author wrote on twitter that after the main story is over she is going to make a side story with FG/Seth. Thats tells me all I need to know. Thats so disrespectful to the HorusxSeth fans. Thats also probably why HorusxSeth haven't had real development in their relationship because deep down she doesn't care for them but she is too scared to change it. I am so disappointed.
Yes, I’ve read Dear Door, and you’re right — the way the MC gradually moved on from his late wife was handled well..... It was believable and acceptable....
That manhwa was generally good… until chapter 88..
That scene — the ra....pe— was just disgusting.
And it wasn’t even meaningful...
It didn’t serve the story or change anything — it was just there because it suited the author’s taste...
Unfortunately, after that chapter, I couldn’t enjoy the story the way I used to....
Honestly, I don’t know what’s going on with authors these days...
yes, I agree with you on that too.
It’s the author’s fault for making Horus's character stay this way — with no improvement, even after 200 chapters.
As readers, we can only hope for some real, unexpected growth in his character.
That’s why I think it’s best not to blindly side with a character just because we like them more
Let’s at least try to be fair...
Imagine going back to love someone who gouged out your eyes and left you blind —
that’s just not logical.
Yes, I’ve read Dear Door, and you’re right — the way the MC gradually moved on from his dead wife was handled well....believable and acceptable.
That manhwa was generally good… until chapter 88.
That scene — the ra....pe was just... disgusting.
And it wasn’t even meaningful.
It didn’t serve the story or change anything — it was just there because it suited the author’s taste.
Unfortunately, after that chapter, I couldn’t enjoy the story the way I used to.
Honestly, I don’t know what’s going on with authors these days...
Woojin suffers from antisocial personality disorder.
He didn't understand feelings in his life.. feels them but doen't know what they are. ..
He was treated as a monster by his family all his life..
for the first time after Haewon left him, he realizes that perhaps this was love...
So Haewon broke up with him, even though Woojin didn't understand what a breakup meant and thought Haewon was angry because he lied..
He just didn't understand why they broke up. ..
Here, it's okay, the shocking thing is coming
Haewon tries to avenge his friend, he does the stupidest thing a human being can do (really one of the stupidest MCs in the entire BL world, it's not like he really considered Taeshin his friend, I don't understand why he did that !! )
(he tries to destroy himself to make Woojin understand the matter and take revenge on him...
I’m still not at that part of the novel. Love it
I thought before they broke up that WH has been pretty possessive of HW even with no romantic feelings. How did HW destryoy himself and how di WJ react to it?
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(he tries to destroy himself to make Woojin understand the matter and take revenge on him...
He agrees with the people who raped Taeshin in order to do the same thing to him(rape i mean
Yup that was pretty fucking stupid
and he will kill himself and makes Woojin miserable all his life. (So why doesn't he take revenge on all those who raped Taishin? What a smart move
This happened twice....
The first time, Woojin saved him after they drugged him , he burned the entire villa to get him out, but Haewon hit him with a large rock on his shoulder (he meant his head), and this caused big wound with a lot blood...
The second time, he went to them and brought a gang to beat and hold Woojin and waited for him to come...
Woojin was on the verge of madness, he tried to stop him, warn him, apologize and beg, but no avail.
Then they took Haewon to a room and tied him up so they could ra....pe him (he felt very afraid and cried a lot)....
Before it could happen, Woojin came covered in blood...
He had an iron stick and hit them all.
He was very afraid for Haewon (especially his hands, because if he couldn't play, he would be destroyed).
He took him out of the place and told him to go and leave ..
Haewon refused while crying hard, but he went in the end...
Woojin quit his job and confessed everything in order to not see Haewon go crazy like this..
He was sentenced to two years
When Haewon remembers ruining Woojin's life...
He keeps crying because
He still loves him madly
In the prison Woojin refuses to meet anyone, especially him, but he visits him nonetheless, and when they meet, Haewon starts crying so hard
Then he contacts the responsible prosecutor and exchanges some documents with him in exchange for reducing the sentence...
The period becomes one year
After a year, Haewon continues his performances and becomes more famous, but he always remembers Woojin....
He even continued to wear a ring he found in his car that Woojin intended to give to him before the breakup....
After Woojin gets out of prison, they meet each other.
After the argument and conflict, they return to each other, and the obsessive love returns with some beautiful moments, as if all this storm had not happened..
Huh? Haewon is also a psycho and WJ met his match. Thank you for the spoilers hahahaha
The novel is very long
I read some spoilers here and there, this is a summary because there are many, many details
After several things happened Haewon admits that he likes Woojin, and at some point he becomes obsessed with him...
He takes many pictures of him and records his voice to hear when he misses him. ..
He becomes more childish... gets angry with him when he is busy with work, turns off his phone so that no one will interrupt them...
Haewon has dated and slept with many people, but this is his first time loving someone...
He thinks about him all the time and feels jealous of those who were with him before him...
Their relationship continues for a year or more
Then Haewon discovers that Woojin deceived him and approached him because it is part of his plan (he wants something that Haewon’s friend gave him) and that he's a person who uses people to achieve his goals, and his friend committed suicide because of him, as did his fiancée
(they loved him madly but he didn't care about them, he slept with his fiancée’s sister, and he also introduced Taeshin to his friends and they gang-raped him ),
(He wasn't with them, he was never interested in sex before meeting Haewon, he only sleeps with people to fulfill his interests).. but he was the reason
What??? Nooooo poor innocent taeshin
Maybe taeshin wrote about the gang r*** in his diary but haewon didnt read it and threw it away thats why he never knew and let be honest haewon did not care for taeshin enough poor guy he was just guilty for a sec cuz he didnt answer his calls when he died
He never cared, but when he finds out, he'll try to take revenge (in the stupidest ways, of course), and that's what makes it weird...
If you're interested, I've written new spoiler in the comments above ..
I need spoiler plssss
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(he tries to destroy himself to make Woojin understand the matter and take revenge on him...
He agrees with the people who rap....ed Taeshin in order to do the same thing to him(ra....e i mean
and he will kill himself and makes Woojin miserable all his life. (So why doesn't he take revenge on all those who rap...ed Taishin? What a smart move
This happened twice....
The first time, Woojin saved him after they drugged him , he burned the entire villa to get him out, but Haewon hit him with a large rock on his shoulder (he meant his head), and this caused big wound with a lot blood...
The second time, he went to them and brought a gang to beat and hold Woojin and waited for him to come...
Woojin was on the verge of madness, he tried to stop him, warn him, apologize and beg, but no avail.
Then they took Haewon to a room and tied him up so they could rape him (he felt very afraid and cried a lot)....
Before it could happen, Woojin came covered in blood...
He had an iron stick and hit them all.
He was very afraid for Haewon (especially his hands, because if he couldn't play, he would be destroyed).
He took him out of the place and told him to go and leave ..
Haewon refused while crying hard, but he went in the end...
Woojin quit his job and confessed everything in order to not see Haewon go crazy like this..
He was sentenced to two years
When Haewon remembers ruining Woojin's life...
He keeps crying because
He still loves him madly
In the prison Woojin refuses to meet anyone, especially him, but he visits him nonetheless, and when they meet, Haewon starts crying so hard
Then he contacts the responsible prosecutor and exchanges some documents with him in exchange for reducing the sentence...
The period becomes one year
After a year, Haewon continues his performances and becomes more famous, but he always remembers Woojin..
He even continued to wear a ring he found in his car that Woojin intended to give to him before the breakup....
After Woojin gets out of prison, they meet each other.
After the argument and conflict, they return to each other, and the obsessive love returns with some beautiful moments, as if all this storm had not happened..
Why the fuck would he pay ppl to ra*e him thats really stupid of him oh my god and not just once but twice???? I know he likes to sleep around but ra*e aint a joke dude even just out of spite why would he do that to himself he stress me out
OMG thankyuu so much, I don't really like reading novels, so I asked for an explanation of what the novel is like while waiting for the comic to come out. Sooooo thankyuuu
Yes, that was the dumbest thing a sane person could possibly do....
It seems like loving Woojin drives people insane.
Everyone who’s ever loved him ended up committing suicide.
So Haewon decided that the only way to hurt Woojin and make him regret everything...was to do this...
Okay — flirting with other men in front of him? Maybe that’s something you could accept...
But planning to get himself raped — just to hurt Woojin? That’s beyond comprehension....
And by the same people who raped his friend?
It’s just ridiculous. Honestly..
Yeah, reading novels isn’t something I usually enjoy either, but I just couldn’t stop myself.
Atp im thinking woojin's dick has crack in it cuz all of his past relationship ended up going insane bc of him i mean i get why taeshin off himself poor guy got violated by his "bfs" friends and woojin let it happen and his only friend wouldn't answer his calls
But haewon's gotta be the dumbest mc ever like literally putting himself in that situation twice is honestly the most mind boggling thing an mc could ever do other mcs would avoid it as much as possible but him *sigh*
Also i considered reading the novel too but seeing the spoilers i know that novel would just ruin my mood for a whole month after reading it hahahahaha
You're welcome
Yeh I’ve never seen anyone take revenge like this — letting the same disgusting people who ra..ped his friend ra..pe him too…
and then killing himself....
What kind of genius plan is that?
And yes, the events of the novel are just depressing.
In your case Spoilers alone are enough ...
My Personal Thoughts on the Novel .....
(spoiler spoiler and very very long)
Honestly, I didn’t like the story at all… for several reasons.
.The most important reason is that
1) I deeply pitied the ML (main lead).
* He went through extreme trauma as a child. He and his friend (the SML) were test subjects, but he endured far worse.
* His family exploited him and showed no concern for his feelings.
*The only thing keeping him alive was the memory of meeting the MC ten years ago and the hope of seeing him again. But when that finally happened?
The MC didn’t remember him at all and only recalled the SML saving him — even though it was the ML who actually saved his life.
&The ML sacrificed everything — his energy, his life, ( and they both imprinting) . ML did it, certain that he was going to die. It was his last hope to save MC and let him live.
He was the one who gave him , precious necklace meant to be given only to a life partner.
*After surviving, he had to take on a new identity and When he met the MC again (now a doctor), he was suffering from an unstable condition caused by a one-sided imprinting.
He was in constant pain and close to breaking down.
He was genuinely excited to meet the only person he ever loved.
But the MC had no memory of him — and even worse, he was constantly flirting with the SML...
The ML had remained faithful all those years — he never even dated anyone else.
And now, the person he longed for was showing affection to someone else right in front of him.
*The only person the ML trusted was the SML, and now that friend had become his rival. It was hellish.
He never told anyone about what happened. He was afraid that if he got close to the MC, it might put him in danger. So he stayed away, silently suffering..
I honestly don’t know how he survived emotionally.
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2) I didn't like the MC's personality :
*After being saved, he lived a relatively normal, social life. He had dated people before.
Yet he acted naïve, like he was new to these things.
He continued to flirt with SML under the pretext that he was his lifesaver and it was only natural for him to like him.
Even after officially dating ML,
There was a lot of Physical contact, cause he's feeling guilty and it is okay, he's his teacher.
Even in the side stories, the ML was constantly hurt.
Another person (a patient also treated by the MC) began to show interest in the ML, and the MC didn’t even notice...
Even when the ML told him , he just brushed it off, thinking the ML’s jealousy was immature.
He kept caring about that other person, thinking they might be traumatized — completely ignoring the ML’s obvious distress and insecurity.
The ML had to endure all of this silently because he promised not to interfere with the MC's work.
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3) I didn’t like the SmL , (good person but he was just… too clingy).
What also frustrated me The story wasn't presented as a love triangle, nor was there even a third party,(Keywords) which I found very strange.
How could it not be? For more than half of the story, you don't know who the ML is?
Even in the second part of the novel, there are many scenes between SmL and Dr,
and the ML appears less often, There is even more than one chapter explaining his pov from his first meeting with the dr ...
so you wonder if he's really the ML?
The Dr also thought about dating him more than once. He thinks he's his savior, a kind and handsome person, and comfortable to be with. But he backs out every time. .....
Eventually, he comes to the conclusion that he's just comfortable with him and doesn't think of him as a lover
Only later, when he thought about the ML, did his heart race and he fells safer with him more .
But that took far too long ......
But I don’t blame the SmL — the MC led him on constantly....
To the point that when the SmL found out about the MC and ML’s relationship, he was deeply hurt...
<spoiler>(he went to them at night and found them together; the Dr was asleep but overheard the conversation),
Sml he felt betrayed and very angry.
He said, "I thought Dr liked me."
The funny thing is that the Dr was just… confused.
Like, "Why would the SmL think I liked him? What did I do to give that impression?"
Seriously?! There’s a limit to how oblivious one can be.
We’re told that the MC is a capable and intelligent person — not a clueless fool.
He clearly knew the SmL had feelings for him and still treated him in a way that encouraged those feelings.
I was frustrated through the whole story:
To be honest, I started skimming many parts just to get through it.
I hated how the MC was portrayed — easily the worst character for me.
The ML was only there to be jealous all the time, and the MC would just say it’s cute or childish.
Like: “Oh, he’s just inexperienced. Maybe it’s because it’s his first relationship.”
And is it necessary that every person who appears must like the dr and the ML must be jealous ?
Jealousy is fine sometimes, but when it’s constant from beginning to end — mixed with feelings of inferiority and fear — it’s exhausting.
One heartbreaking moment made me hate the story even more:
When they were officially dating, and because of the Dr's conversation with the center commander, he began to remember the past and the little person he was with (there's a 5-year difference between them).
He began to feel suffocated and shocked.
The ML tried to calm him down, but he was dreaming and screaming the SML's name. ...
(misunderstanding) but was so painful. .....
His heart was aching .....
He didn't know what to do. ....
He called SmL to come because Dr. was asking for him.
The SmL sarcastically told him it was pathtic that he couldn't do such a simple thing as calm him down, and several other words....
The ML was so embarrassed.
He didn't want to call him, but he was afraid for Dr. He thought he was the most important thing, not his feelings, so he left......
Even when he came back, he heard Dr thanking SML and telling him that he was better thanks to him.....
He felt there was no point in his presence, so he left again.
making the ML feel completely worthless.
when Dr. woke up, he was looking for ml. ...
But he found SmL lying on his knees...
He thanked him profusely and apologized.
He even let him sleep while he stroked his hair, justifying it by saying that he felt pity and guilt towards him .....
So the SmL confessed his feelings,
the Dr. apologized and sadly gave him the necklace, but told him that it wasn't his and that it belonged to ML...
So he went to look for ML and... He wonders why the ML's face was so strange and heartbroken.. back then ..
After that
The MC was kidnapped.
The ML searched for him like a madman
and the team goes out to rescue him.
Use another esper from the team to threaten the dr to get a project ..
Unfortunately, that esper was beaten badly ..
The MC stayed beside him, crying and treating his wounds, hoping the ML would come rescue them.
Eventually, they were saved, and the ML stayed behind to fight alone while the others were taken to safety.
Continued frustration:
The SmL jokes and says to the Dr ...
"Can't you have both of us? I'll accept to be the second."
The DR refuses, feeling guilty,
The SmL tells him that he doesn't want him to stop being his teacher.
The DR tells him that's for sure, but he jokes, "But you can't have an affair with a teacher." They continue laughing.....
There was more than one joke about cheating...
Continuing to joke like this is annoying.
I don't know, is this normal?
No, actually.
Is it normal for physical contact to continue like this?
Anyway ,He also finally found that the child from 10 years ago is the ML after the SmL tells him so.
The Dr thanks him and tells him he's the coolest man he's ever known.
Then he quickly goes to meet the ML
When they meet, the ML confesses everything.
The MC replies that even though they met in a different time and place, he still fell in love with the same little boy all over again.
Mmmm Really?
And some events.... then the ending....
There are side stories...
So Let’s be honest — the ML loved him far more than he love the ml back
And as they say, the one who loves more always loses more
Summary & Final Impression (from my perspective):
This story is emotionally draining and deeply unfair to the ML, who gave everything....
The MC was portrayed inconsistently, naive .....
The SmL was more present than needed, and the “triangle” wasn’t properly established until very late..
even the long side story was about him and Dr (the author made him the doctor's bodyguard chosen by the ML himself, as they were together for a week in the same house, while the ML was away), isn't that redicous ?
I just didn't understand what the author wanted !
There was too much unbalanced affection, lack of emotional payoff,
I don’t think I’ll continue with the manhwa.
Damn you just broke my heart
So does the MC slept with anyone other than the ML?
No he didn't, (maybe the only thing he didn't do), because when you read the novel you will feel uncomfortable, like it's an emotional cheating ...
after officially dating, there is still flirting, justified by SmL being his life saver and someone special to him,
the emotional line is very strange, I couldn't understand it ..
Omg like red flag of real life it hurts these self esteem if I was the ml the guide how horrible of fate to be bounded to someone like that I hope the story get some change or som I can’t stomach what u said I’m huuurt ┗( T﹏T )┛
Yes, it's really unfortunate that you end up with someone like this.....
The fact that SmL's personality is highlighted a lot and he appears in every chapter, with many situations with MC, more than ML himself...
made me wonder what the author really wants? Does he want us to like SmL more than ML?
Or does he want us to hate MC because he's selfish and really doesn't deserve ML!
Anyway, I don't know if all these details will be shown in the manhwa, and I'm not curious.
I regretted reading it, because what I hate the most is that after you officially date, you keep flirting here and there, and pretending that you're innocent and an idiot who doesn't know what it's all about...
Yup cheating is cheating and THAT IS CHEATING makes you feel like you’re not enough I hope he finds a way to break the bound CUZ THAT IS HEARTBREAKING
I was also hating the MC though not too much but I still do hoped the ML and SML just ends up together instead!
I was even thinking of dropping it but gave it a chance but knowing the spoiler, I think I might really do
Oh I think this will be good.. nice ending
Yes especially If you're not comfortable with a love triangle, because it will remain more than half of the story, and even after that there is still flirting, so
Exactly
Damn it sounds so painful. After reading this I want better ending for ML. He definitely didn't deserved all those bullshit from Dr. and SML
Wahhh, I'm someone who impatiently wait their story so I read your spoiler but damn.. can't someone else have the ml? He doesn't deserve that treatment. The mc felt attached to the sml coz he thought he was his saviour, but even knowing the truth at the end he blurted out he love the same guy from years ago to the ml? Yeh right. The attachment still didn't go away, it's like in his mind the guy who rescued him was still the sml. Even I was hurt with the moment you said when the mc shouted the sml's name and ml pitifully just ask the sml's help. What is this? Twilight? ╮(￣▽￣)╭
According to the novel, 10 years ago, when both the ML and MC were in danger, the ML tried to protect the MC—even if it meant dying. ...
He struggled to get up and call for help, and luckily, the SML was there.... After saving them, the ML and SML became true friends. As a result, the MC remembers the SML, but forgot everything about the ML.
I really don't know what the author was trying to convey.....
At first, the MC had a crush on the SML for saving him. Later, he found him kind and cool. ...
He considered dating him, but eventually backed out. He was confused between someone he felt comfortable with and someone he truly loved.
But even after the midpoint of the novel—when the MC decided he liked the ML and began dating him—the SML still received the same amount of attention and remained special to the MC...
The MC justifies this by saying the SML is his savior, someone he feels both grateful and guilty toward.
Honestly, I couldn’t feel real love from the MC towards the Ml in he main stoty ....
On the other hand, the ML is genuinely kind and a real green flag...
. While some might consider him possessive, I think his actions are reasonable. ...
He has a lover, yet flirts with everyone unconsciously. The author portrays him as naive and clueless when it comes to love, even though he’s the only ML who hasn’t had any previous relationships....
Anyway, the story heavily relies on jealousy and frustration. Even in the side stories, there's constant jealousy—from the SML, from other Espers, and from the ex-lover....
Jealouse everywhere
It gets exhausting, and honestly, it really makes you lose interest.
Yeh, it's like being in a relationship but giving the best friend more time and more importance than the lover kind of plot that's really exhausting.
Even though SML is not a bad person but the Doctor is the one who led him to that...
if the manhwa was the same as the novel you will see why he thought the Doctor loves him,...
the filtring and joking about cheating even after dating was weird, some readers found it okay because they liked SML ... the author put a lot of scenes with him so some of them started to like him....
and the other who prefers pure love felt uncomfortable with the MC's weird actions..
Ohh, now I'm thinking of manirating this manhwa before starting again
That's right! I don't even hate ML or SML because they're both good boys
Kinda understandable Dr. Never gave ML any sense of security in the relationship
Sorryyy i misclicked, i meant to like ur comment
Omggg I'm not even reading the whole story but totally feel the frustation after saw ur spoilers also, i hate love triangle, esp when the mc kind of leading the SML, like whyyy can't u set a boundaries?
And the cheating joke things, that's weird ufff...
And i would feel hurt too if im trying my best to save someone, to the point almost dying, but the one that i saved not even remember me
Thanks for sharing! I guess I’ll go ahead and drop the manhwa. Unfortunately not even the good art will save it from the frustration we’d get if they decide to adapt the storyline from the novel because can’t stand clueless MCs that are constantly leading people on despite being already in a relationship. Like the clueless naivety does not justify the constant flirting……I feel so sad for the ML MC if you don’t want him give him to me ffs!!!!!!!!
Tesoro of the guide a question, was that Ring which the doctor has on his neck from that red hair guide jeong taeyul which saved him as a kid? Ps will the red hair be with the doctor in the end?
Thank goodness I read this cause it’s not worth the read at all …
okay don’t continue it but no one owes you affection just because you like them first
Well this is just my opinion.....
Unfortunately I feel like I lost interest in the story and the S3 is really annoying now .... .
Do you think that after I saw all of their past, will I enjoy that bastard Lorcan flirting with Ian now...
and Ian letting him do whatever he wants, because he doesn't understand Lorcan's moves but accepts them he can't refuse him ....
it's really annoying, he's the reason for his death and Sol's misery and waiting alone for a thousand years until the one he loves returns...that's sad
I don't blame Ian, he doesn't remember anything..
I just can't see this...
I can't sympathize with that bastard or accept him in any way, so the story no longer attracts me, it just annoys me, so I'll drop it....
maybe I'll come back to see the ending, that's if the writer decides to end it ...
After the first season I stopped reading.... went back to see what happened and skimmed through it quickly...
Umm I didn't want to continue or even read anymore...
I hate love triangles especially this , but I decided to give it a try but it seems like it's taking too long and the MC is going here and there and it's not fair to either of them....
Jo is a good and nice person... and i think it's okay for him to be the end game...
Tj I don't know why when I see him I just feel sad..
and even though I like him more I don't want him to end up with Ian...
I want an ending where he is happy without Ian ...
Is this possible
Hmmmm, I really hate love triangles between brothers, this is truly bad....
I hate love triangles in general, but unfortunately, I got into this story and that was the end of it.....
After skimming through the novel, honestly, both brothers are good, and both of them carry wounds from the past....
In fact, I liked them more than the MC...
I honestly don’t understand what’s so enchanting about his character — why did both of them fall in love with him? Is it just because he guided them ? I don’t see anything else...
Anyway, the MC didn’t actually do it with both of them as everyone says...I don't know where it came from,
only with the younger brother....
He did many things with the older brother, but not all the way... It almost happened during the guiding, when the older brother was in a very agitated state, but just as it was about to happen, the MC unconsciously called out the younger brother’s name...
The older brother got very angry, vented his anger on the MC, but in the end he let him go ....
The MC didn’t even know why he was angry....
Afterwards, the younger brother found him and wanted to help since he was in a miserable state — the guiding was intense...
After helping him, the MC told him to leave and that he didn’t want to see him for a while, so he left.....
It’s obvious that the MC loves the younger brother, but he keeps hesitating and questioning himself:
Do I really love him? Who should I choose? What should I do? I know them both very well, and because of that i can’t choose. ..
What do I want? He keeps going in circles like that,
which is very frustrating for both brothers...
His hesitation is annoying and unjustified...
He should’ve been decisive instead of going back and forth between them and then feeling guilty afterwards. ...
At the beginning, it was acceptable and understandable, but it dragged on for way too long.
It wasn’t until the very end, when he was on the verge of death, that he realized his feelings: Ahhh yes, I love him, I have to tell him that. ..Hmmm, something like that. ...
Anyway, I didn’t really care how it ended with the MC, since I didn’t like him that much....
What mattered to me was that there was an improvement in the relationship between the two brothers...
That was at the end, and it was truly in a sad sutiution, but also good (he even called his older brother hyung). Still, it was a happy ending overall...
And since the younger brother found happiness after his long suffering as a child, I also hope the older brother finds happiness with someone who truly loves him , he deserves the best...
By the way, the title of the novel comes from the younger brother, this is what he is called Sirrra, because he will gain more than one ability...
And because he loves his Guide so much and almost died while saving him, the Guide was named Juliet...
This is how the title came...
Also, the reason is that the younger brother is lonely and did not find any Guide to guide him, and he orgnize the MC the first time he saw him… it is because they are (imprinted) one each other
This happened when they were young, but the ML’s memory was erased, and the MC does not remember...
.....
And
I really have to avoid stories like this next time. Seriously, I have to. ...
For someone who hates love triangles, this was just frustrating...
Thanks for the summary. I might drop this since I can't bear with the younger brother. I know they have their own set of trauma and all but he's forceful tbh. I can't say much yet with the older brother but I really can't see any chemistry with the 3 probably because it's the usual Esper x Guide story where everything related to intimidate guiding. Everything seems forced.
Thank you for the insight and spoilers
I agree with you — there’s no chemistry, and the story doesn’t really motivate you to continue...
I was only curious to see how it ends...
Even in the raws now, the MC’s intimate moments with the older brother are weird, hard to understand, and don’t even look good. (Suddenly he tells him to strip and masturbate, and the MC just obeys, as if he’s there to put on a show instead of guiding... Then he fingering him, reading his mind without consent, and ..… just strange....)
As for the younger brother, he’s full of scars...
Everyone sees him as a child here — and he really is...
He suffered a lot and was used in experiments...
He has no friends or family, only treated as a weapon for fighting, so he doesn’t know anything about real life. ... and even though he knows he should get the other person’s consent before doing anything, the MC keeps saying, “You don’t have to ask, just do it.” Seriously?
Later, he stops bothering the MC because of jealousy, and tells him he can do whatever he wants with the older brother, and that he won’t complain again — but he shouldn’t abandon him...
The story keeps frustrating you because the MC’s indecision hurts everyone. ...
Even after choosing, he still didn’t directly tell the yonger brother that he would stop guiding the older (I don’t know why he kept delaying, even after deciding to end it)....
The younger brother was sad, but didn’t object. ..
The brothers’ personalities show some improvement, especially the younger one — you feel like he finally matured. But honestly, the MC isn’t attractive at all,
and there isn’t really any character that pulls you in. ..
So I focused more on the brothers’ relationship. ..
But That only came through at the end, when the younger brother sacrificed himself and almost died. ..
The story closed with him eventually coming back safely... And a happy ending ..
You're welcome