So im only on chapter like 20 rn but what is the age differnce between estelle and emel because im getting vibes that emel might end up being the love interest? like i get she has memories of her past life but shes 11... i just want to know the age diff so i dont gross myself out like even when she ages up then the romance starts it still kinda creeps me out he knew her when she was a child and he could potentially be an adult idk guys that kind of thing just dosent sit well with me ( T﹏T )
I think they are like a 10 year difference
it's 5 or 6.
I believe it’s seven as he said he has been there for 4 years since he was 14(?) so that would make him 18(?) in that chapter and Estelle is 11 in that chapter. If not 14 then 15 and thus 19 not 18.
I was thinking the same thing like he had really known her since she was a child... is that not creepy?
right! i think its kinda creepy.. like it be a different story if they met when she was older tbh but like idk its just creeps me out lmfao
My god, they said it many times already in the same manhwa, they're only 6 years apart, currently 16-22
must not have gotten up to that part sorry, just asking a simple question it just personally made me uncomfortable but with the information i have now i can confidently drop this manhwa :) ty
Why drop it? This manhwa is really good
where is everyone getting the information that this was dropped? like are we all just assuming that? like the artist has released 70 or so chapters since the season 1 finale it wouldnt surprise me if they went on a break ╮(￣▽￣)╭
is there any romance in this story gay or straight? idm :)
theres a straight side couple and a few crushes here and there, one guy likely loves the MC, but it is definitely not focused on romance
I would like to have a plot twist that is : Daniel ends up with Jay.
Well a wishful thought
i would be so happy if daniel is bisexual. and jay cares about him so much they would be so cute :(((((
i actually quite enjoy how unsuccessful (or just dumb) the mc is, its refreshing to see since in all the other "villainous" stories their plans will almost always pan out how they wanted them too.. ╮(￣▽￣)╭
Yeahh!! Ginger is refreshing and, let’s be honest, far mor “realistic” than the others badass villainess
I mean you don't want s fantasy manga to be realistic but ok....
i think they like it when fantasy has that realistic aspect. It makes the story almost believable and helps you connect with the characters a lot more.
i mean dont get me wrong all my other "Villainess" mc are 100% queens. i get they are fantasy manga's and all but its a nice change! its relatable because everyone is not some diabolical genius that can execute these plans with a high success rate while still being the good guy but also the villain like most of the stories in a similar genre, i just like that ginger and i seem to share the same amount of brain cells thats all (づ￣ ³￣)づ
someone who has read the novel pls give me as many spoilers as possible i cbf reading it myself thanks <3(づ￣ ³￣)づ
mm ive just finished watching the anime can anyone tell me can i just pick up from where the anime finished or should i start from the stat? thanks in advance :)
Ch.15 is where the anime ends (●'◡'●)ﾉ
ive been reading this for ages and i still have no idea how im properly supposed to pronounce latte's names
Lol Latte like the coffee. However, Ibeline or whatever is the name that I have a hard time pronouncing
Latte mean "milk" in italian, so for me is easy to read. I don't how to explain to you, but you can go on Google translate, and put italian language for ear the right pronunciation :)
ah it was that easy my dumb ass kept reading la-tet ╮(￣▽￣)╭ Thanks guys!
the Jan 23rd chap was delayed due to the Jang Sung-raks health :( it will resume again as per usual next week
Does the translations get any better before i try to continue reading this because my dyslexic brain had a fucking seizure trying to figure out what the fuck was being said (╬￣皿￣)凸
This might just be my interpretation of it but I think even in the old timeline the father favoured kiara just seemed like the stereotypical cold father that didn’t know how to show his love trope and when cosette “ proved” that she was the real daughter he honestly looked really shocked and honestly a little sad imo I’m willing to believe that cosette definitely manipulated him in some kind of way to get him to execute kiara in the previous timeline this is all just my opinion of course I just hope the father wasn’t actually that cold hearted （￣へ￣）
Oh trust me, you will hate him
Spoiler me please
OH PLEASE REVEAL
Oh god well at least it will hurt less when he betrays my trust then I guess ╥﹏╥
he's a scumbag from start till end, sadly
Can I get some spoilers pls? :)
Not mine but here.
SPOILER from the novel
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.The true villan was the Father
공작인 아버지? 쓰레기 같은 놈이 구구절절 후회한다로.
내용이 이게 다임
The Father. A Scumbag who'll live with regret.
That's all it's about.
Pretty much sums it up. From the beginning, until the end, he was really the true antagonist of this whole story. Worst than the actual Demon, since it was solely based by his own actions that led up to the despair and destruction of people around him.
The man was well known for being Neutral, to the extent that he kept his own children pretty much locked up in the house.
While they both excelled academically and had a wide array of knowledge, Socially they were inept. (More so for Kiera)
Because of this, under the pretext of maintaining neutrality he pretty much just stood in the sidelines and watched as his First Wife suffered abuse.
Using the Grand Dukes neutrality as leverage the Second Wife's family created more oppurtunties for misunderstandings and insults directed to the First Wife.
Even after knowing the family of his Second Wife hired assassins to kill the First Wife and her family, he remained neutral.
The First Wife was slandered of being barren, unable to give birth.
Except she was actually pregant. In despair of her situation she formed a contract with a Demon who she offered her soul to, to protect her unborn child and take revenge on the Parvis family.
(이란성 쌍둥이인 줄 몰랐어요.)
I didn't know they were fratnernal twins.
This is where it gets wierd, since I'm not given enough context to know who they're talking about which is confusing. It could swing either way in decribing the First Wife and her own brother or if she herself actually gave birth to fraternal twins. I have a source that says Son, and there's this which clearly talks about Two people. Either way we at least know she gave birth to a girl.
The Demon contracted took possesion of the body and in the process killed off the child in doing so. So from the very start the child in the womb never lived.
Fulfilling the phrophecy, but it is ambigious to the readers if the Water spirit would have changed masters even if the real Cosette had lived.
Cosette is older than Kiera.
There was a sole member of the First Wifes family who survived, and that was her brother. He is now an Earl, and wants revenge.
I'm not sure if he also made a contract with the same Demon as his sister, but they make contact and as you can see in the webtoon he was the one who introduced Cosette.
In the first 회귀 (timeline) The Earl and the First wifes Revenge was succesful and the world turned into Hell.
Going back just a bit, when Cosette arrived and there was confusion among the masses, as to who the real daughter was there was a vote that took place on whether to execute Kiera.
For all his political posturing as a Neutral party the Grand Duke himself voted to Kill off his own daughter.
At the time he actually knew that Kiera was his biological daughter, but still sent her off to the guillotine.
Present time, when Cosette actually arrives the plot becomes almost comical. Since the fight between the two girls is more of a psychological warfare, with verbal insults hurled at the other rather than being physical.
Cosette is a Demon she can't control the spirits. Some one here said it could be her bloodline, but the comments keep talking about her 마술 -her magic so I'm not sure. Being a Demon can you control a Divine being?
(하지만, 정령사의 힘이 발동되는 찰나 코제트가 먼저 힘을 발현하면서 키이라는 가짜공녀가 됩니다)
However, as soon as the Spirit was activated, Cosette manifested her powers first and Kiera became the Fake princess.
This is the scene where Kiera was able to draw out her Spirit, but was beaten to the punch by Cosette. In shock she never realized she actally succeeded, which then led to her demise.
The Demon doesn't follow human logic, it killed off all those who signed with it. Is what one reviewer said.
The Grand Duke now wants to be treated like a father, which is irresponsible condsidering everything that he's done. Neglect, borderline abuse and passing the blame.
갈등은 실제로 설명되지 않습니다. 개념은 무겁지만 글씨는 가볍습니다.
Conflicts are not really explained. The concept is heavy, but the writing is light.
The ending is an open end, where Kiera is seen going on a trip. Traveling and exploring the world, this is after her and her brother completley cut ties with their father.
The conclusion being She will continue to walk her own path.
The Novel genre is 로판 which is just an abbreviation for Romance Fantasy.
Like I said earlier there is no Romance, but if you look at it from a different perspective you can define the plot more as Self Love and Growth.
A prim and proper Lady being exposed to the ways of the world is really an eye-opener on how sheltered her life had been.
In a sense it's a more realistic approach on finding independace outside of duty and obligation, and experiencing how the world really works and functions.
Damn the Father a asshole
Damn the father issa fucking asshole. Thank you for the spoiler
Thank you for spoiling! I read some spoilers as well that apparently it wasn't meant to be an opening ending but the author actually got fed up with it and ended it that way... some say the webtoon might go in a different direction (actually having a ML and such). I do hope there's at least a ML and some things are better explained or showed...
Open ending* sorry