I think this shows how homophobic and gross people can be, it feels realistic kinda realistic for some reason its rlly sad. I hope the main couple pulls through.
Take notes everyone. This manga still has rape but it isnt brushed under the rug *cough* love is illusion *cough* the seme has flaws which are acknowledged and relate to plot! Still dont think it needed rape but THIS is how you approach it in stories.
How many times is the author going to rewrite Hyesungs personality!! One second hes bratty, the next hes mellow and romantic then screaming and pulling Dojin hair outm
Hormones. And the pulling hair out is obviously humour based. Beside he is giving birth so he is feeling a lot of pain.
I don't think that the author is rewriting him as character is just that he is not so one dimensional as some of you want him to be, people in general can be like this. Besides he is pregnant and hormones can affect the way he acts.
I hate comments like this just go read tied up in twins (Sarang and Siwon typical boring yaoi character ) Hye is amazing character with real problems
Exactly. His character was complex and his response was understandable. If people want a girly pushover "uke" who will fall into the arms of their prince immediately then look elsewhere.
Maybe if the author.. established... that i would get it
He has problems but his personality is not established properly. Not attacking him im criticzing the writing.
Possibly. I take the whole pushing dojin hair out as humour and exaggeration of the labour trope where the woman Go ape shit in the men when giving birth. The whole YOU DID THIS. Rather than it being a full on personality change
Ngl as someone who hates this comic and characters chapter 30 was pretty cute.
But its still bad writing.
if you hate it why are you still here at chapter 30???
Because I expected more and wanted it to improve.
Not speaking objectively, but if Hyesung hates Dojin and dosent want the baby, why does he kiss Dojin?? Why did his mentality suddenly change??? Bad.
At this stage he is probably just exhausted by his whole situation, and I guess the author is using this an an opportunity to show that this dependency means they both just submit to each other because Dojin understans how Hye-sung is suffering and that he had played a part in this. Not exactly a romantic love story, but it is what it is.
I see. I wish the author could have written it better though because they spent so much time establishing how they don't get along, so it becomes so jarring to see a "romantic" scene at this point in the plot.
Did you forget the scene in which Hyesung cried because he couldn't eat the food that Dojin faced trouble in providing it? Moreover, he forced himself to eat some of this food knowing that he will vomit it in the end. Or when Dojin got late, Hyusung start feeling uneasy and hid in Dojin's closet then stood right in front of the door waiting for him. Which means, Hyusung care for Dojin and feels safe in his presence. If this isn't "love", what it is then?
Biological dependency, omegaverse version. It's their instincts that they are reliant on each other, like the examples shown. It's just how the author has chosen to interpret things, other omegaverse interpretations do show "love" in a more realistic sense. Regardless, it is what it is, and it's interesting seeing a new take on things, at this point in the plot they are starting to understand each other more, and Dojin is showing a greater understanding of why Hye-sung acts how he does, due to his background and current suffering. Both characters have mellowed out quite a bit.
lets not forget that maternal instinct are very strong, even in real life. people who are ahving a baby usually develop love that seemed impossible before
That's why it would have been emotionally less harmful for Hye-sung to just have been allowed to get an abortion, as walking away from a baby that you are biologically and emotionally programmed to nourish and care for is going to be tricky, even traumatic. Dojin knows that preventing Hye-sung from getting an abortion was selfish, but he thought it was the only way to tie him to him. You live and learn, they both were pretty naive, and Heeso and Hye-sung's beta friend offer a more rational/blunt view point.
I never heard about that.. it just seems inconsistent to me..
Right
"It's their instincts that they are reliant on each other" but if Dojin wasn't reliable, kind-hearted, and understanding guy, this won't happen. For example Hyesung's parents. Dojin doesn't love Hyesung because of what he is but because of who he is, for example, Dojin and that dominant gumma.
I think the best stance on this manga is to acknowledge the characters are flawed and both have problematic qualities and hope the story improves
LMAO RIGHT???
Imagine being so upset people on the internet dont agree with you you have to block them and make entire comment topic bashing them for disagreeing with your opinons in converstations that have nothing to do with you! *COUGH* youraedthiswrong *COUGH*
LMAO this had norhing to do with hating Dojin, you literally made an entire comment bashing anyone who dosent agree with you, i thought you blocked me because i was "harassing" you? Then why are you making commemts like these? Petty much? You literally comment on every thread you dont agree with and are becoming upset people have the same opinion and calling them "cults". Does it get boring being so petty all the time? I think its you who should get over yourself.
Forcing sex on someone who does not consent and repeatedly says no is rape. Both characters are guilty of this. Espicially Dojin, who does this more than once.
Using someone for financial gain and exploiting them is bad. Hyesung is guilty of this.
Doxxing someones friends only because you dont like them is toxic and controlling. Dojin is guilty of this.
incapacitating someone so they can't leave you or fight back and raping them is basically abuse. Dojin is guilty of this.
Throwing money at someone to solve problems and not communicating properly is pitiful and unhealthy. Dojin is guilty of this.
Not caring for your own baby or taking responsibilty for it is terrible. Hyesung is guilty of this.
Do you see my reasoning for disliking this manga, relationship and BOTH characters?
I agree, both characters are vile but at the very least I can give credit to Dojin for taking responsibily for his child
It's a fair assessment.
Yeah, Dojin is definitely the more mature one here. You can look back at all Dojin's "faults" and see that they're mostly tied to Hyesung anyways, whether it is because Hyesung misunderstood something or because Hyesung was doing something Dojin had to save him from... I guess not wanting Hyesung to leave to a stranger's house that he hasn't seen in years in a fit of rage based on a misunderstanding after having recently found out he's an omega and having accidentally sexually assaulted Dojin multiple times because he can't control his heat is "doxxing his friends"? Does Hyesung even have suppressants? They were being provided by Dojin ... You can verifiably see Dojin didn't use his pheromone "to rape him"... Not even debatable. Look at the scene and dialogue, he used the pheromone because Hyesung said "are you threatening me?", he was showing Hyesung that he doesn't recognize his pheromones because he's never used them on him. Dojin then says "have i ever let my pheromone out around you? I was nice to you, i let you make yourself at home. Why are you always trying to leave?". He is upset Hyesung implied he even WOULD threaten him, so he shows he's never used them on him before. Unfortunately he loses control right after. Dojin isn't "throwing money to solve problems, he just knows it's what Hyesung wants, he says this. "i was totally wrong about him, he isn't effected by the 'subtly showing you care' gestures". He says that small gestures don't impress Hyesung, gifts do. ╮(￣▽￣)╭
omg youraedthiswrogn, as you said to me stop responding to you. Stop responding to me this isnt a comment for you.
Its like the only thing he did right.
Why would you block someone for nonexistent "harrassment" accuse someone of forcing a certain idealogy, tell them to stop responding, yet STILL come back just to disagree? lmao petty much?
Is this supposed to be... enjoyable... you would have to be really sick to enjoy something like this...
guess im sick then （￣へ￣）
Yep
People have there own interests, go somewhere else if you don't like it
To the police.
Y'all act like read gang rape is morally acceptable. It aint.
People have an attraction to sexually abuse bc they where once sexu-abused, weather they remember or not. I'm not saying that real rape is okay, but an expression of it is not gonna hurt anyone.
I'm attracted to sexually abuse, that's bc I was sexu-abuse when I was very young for years, though I forgot until the abuser moved out of my hous. I used to be very ashamed of my attraction, but now I learned to expect. Im not gonna hurt anyone for being attracted to this but I will for hating myself for it, which I did for a lot of my life.
I am loosing interest though, ever since I started dealing with my emotions.
Theres a difference between using it for coping and going out of your way to look at gang rape porn.
Dude, you cant go to a part of the internet that likes these kinda stuff and say that.....wait no, you can, you just did. Hm. Eh, what the heck, its nice meeting ya.
Lol good point