
this is so disgusting, sexual harassment is still harassment even if its coming from a woman and making such an otherwise wonderful main character, a pervert was a horrible choice

tbh I get that it's a fictional work, and I'm ok with fictional work being fucked like killing stalking, but these kind of things only work when you're actually acknowledging that it is a fucked up behaviour and not using it as a way to show that 'oh look, this fl is sooooo different she's so quirky and she's perverted so she's not like other girls!!' I don't know how this is supposed to get the reader to like her,especially since this is a shoujo story and doesn't have any content warnings for what she's doing. If the character that did these thing would have been a man the comment section would have been enraged, but what's the point of feminism if you have double standards?

I am tired, tired, completely tired of the female lead always giving something up for the love to continue. I completely understand that he was brought yo to inherit the title and all of that but for once in these manhwa I want the fl to be selfish. I can't even name a ml that has actually given something up to stay with fl, and although there are some, it's nearly not enough. To give up the title was something possible for both parties and for once I actually hoped that the ml would be the one to do something, but here we are

But Albert WANTED to give up his title, he was the first one to say he would refuse his name, he also already told so to his father, and his father asked him to rethink about it, but he didn't want to change is mind. It was Avery that didn't want him to refuse his name and choose him before the dukedom.
Honestly, I hoped they would find another way, anothee path to get it all

Different viewpoint - If I got to choose which family I would keep, I'd keep the one who loved and supported me even when I was a servant with nothing to my name. They protected her father, mother, and her secret as long as they could. At the first chance, the other family automatically thought the man she want to marry doesn't love her or would come to hate her because of the rumors going around. She didn't give anything up in my book and has her grandfather's love in addition.

yes, exactly. I'm not saying Albert didn't offer, I'm just disappointed that the author chose a very, the fl, to sacrifice her family instead of the male lead sacrificing something for once. I'm definitely aware that Albert offered, but I thought that the author would make him go through with his decision

I guess that from that viewpoint, you're right. she still has her grandfather's love and is marrying into a family that has always loved and protected her, but I was expressing how tired I am of the woman always being the one to renounce to something. Had Albert renounced his title, things would have been exactly the same, he and she would still have his father's love and get married into a good family who just want the best for Avery and wouldn't hurt him, so why is it that when it comes to it, it's always the woman to actually go through with her choice? she's a very strong fm but I think I would have preferred if she was more selfish and chose herself for once instead of doing what she did

I'm not sure I agree that things would be the same because that woman killed her own brother for the title and the son was willing to rpe her for it. I don't think Albert's family is that way and I don't think Avery has much ambition... Hehe she just wants a food tour and in good with that! I guess I just didn't want some of the bs family drama but cute couple time selfishly, I need another '50 Tea Recipes' type one to balance out my reading hehe.
If you aren't reading it, The Investigator of Mueller might satisfy what you communicated in your post. It does have a supernatural component. And yes, if you start it and think too much about what you posted I gave a bit of a spoiler. No more than you would have figured out yourself pretty quickly, I'm sure

I enjoyed the exchange of thoughts! Your initial post sounded reasonable and engaging with a different perspective I was curious to hear more about. I absolutely see where you are coming from too and you're not wrong. It would be fun to see both paths if this were an alternative world situation!
I can only hope the next chapters flesh out the writers intentions so we can be satisfied with their approach to these lovely characters.i want more Avery and Albert moments!!

to be completely honest, I am actually satisfied on how it went, yeah, the ml didn't sacrifice anything, but neither did the fl so I feel like they're on the same level where neither rone or the other is inferior. I think the decision to let them both keep the title was for the best, because even though I was saying that he should have renounced his right, I think I would have still felt sad if they were to cut ties with his family. so yeah, I actually feel quite satisfied with this

I was not expecting the switch to happen like that so to get both could get the title! It was sweet and I'm content.
Tbh, I'm a bit torn when I think too deeply on it. If she was going to get the title I would have rather the way you described in it when it was her choice. On one hand, He just undid all her hard work and the meaning behind it (I took it as her dad would have given his sister the title if she would have just asked instead her trying to kill him) without talking to her about it. On the other hand, she should have talked to him and just decided together what they wanted to do. Then I have the snarky voice saying "great, the woman gets to keep her title because the white man said it was okay and gifted it back to her" ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭ guess those are all different story plots I'll read elsewhere and just enjoy the cute kiss she bestowed on him for getting the mine sticking gold right!

now that you point it out, it really does look like her grandpa was throwing a tantrum and was like "it's either her or nobody" after she made the decision and was ready to give up her heritage for love. Even though I prefer this way it could have been done this way in the beginning without the useless going in circles if her choice wasn't to be respected anyways.

I'm just gonna act like she didn't become white all of a sudden cause of the "light goddess blessing" tf, I can understand that being black is not seen kindly upon in Japan but then just don't make a black character if you're not going to make them justice and mock their skin color to become white and "beautiful" all of a sudden, this is bullshit
when I say you can clearly see how the entire "plot" was written by a man just by the first episode...
Exactly and by the way the female characters are drawn