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I mean mc kinda deserve it after what he did to ml during school.
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Mc raped/gangraped ml during school time . Its basically a revenge bl.

“hitting on”? lets not act like the mc is an angel. even before reading that spoiler, he is a major asshole.

So like sheep mask

so basically zetsubou ni nake

omg i haven’t heard that name in forever

Wutever but turning into r*pist ain't justifying

are you justifying just because someone is an asshole that they deserve to be raped and tormented ? like not counting the spoiler r u actually implying that

I aint reading this its a spoiler dawg wtf do u expect me to respond with

Thts smthn even a person won't wish for their enemy to suffer.

when did i ever imply that? i never said he deserves to get raped, i said, he is an asshole. …because he is.

yeah but that was in response to what I said, you weren't making a general statement. I said can you imagine being raped and tormented and then you replied to that saying yeah but the victim is an asshole

“ within a DAY someone you try hitting on” is what i was responding to. does getting raped justify every other wrong you did? no. and i was making a general statement, i never mentioned that he deserves what happens to him, i said he’s an asshole. your comment was trying to justify his actions.

i even put in quotes what i was responding to.

"your comment was trying to justify his actions" what in the gaslight of a response is that LMAO ? the story just started I haven't read any of the spoilers, I dont know his backstory and dont care for it because it hasn't been shown yet. no one deserves this no matter how much of an asshole they are and I never "justified" his actions because ive only read only 4 chapters

…are you joking? do you not see his personality? you don’t need to read the whole story, he has been an asshole since the chapter 1, literally got his ego hurt because the guy he tried hitting on didn’t respond. how entitled can you be to get angry because someone wants to be left alone? he’s literally a creep. gaslighting??? girl that’s YOU.

and again you go acting like im saying he deserves what happens to him, dk how much i have to clarify i don’t. you don’t have to justify someone’s actions because of trauma they endured in the future.

BRUH R U OK LMAO.... again even if he's asshole he doesn't deserve to have this happened to him. stop being insensitive. ur saying im excusing his attitude because im saying he doesn't deserve to be raped.. stfu girl

"can you imagine this terrible thing happening to you?"

-- "yeah but he's an asshole"

"he still doesn't deserve it"

-- "stop justifying his attitude just because he's been raped"

girl u sound crazy

i think you’re delusional! apparently you don’t understand what im saying. i was responding to one part of your comment, it’s ok to say he doesn’t deserve to get raped, and i wasn’t against that. but you keep acting like he’s innocent. the convo you imagined would actually go more like this:
-imagine trying to hit on someone and a subsequential amount of bad things happen to you

-oh yeah, he doesn’t deserve that, but his personality is shit, and the way he tried “hitting on him” was more like creep behavior

-oh, so you’re saying he deserves to be raped?

-no, i said that his personality was bad, and the way he went about hitting on him was really creepy.

-so you’re saying he deserves to be raped because he’s an asshole?

-no, he doesn’t, and i’ve already said that. im trying to say, that he isn’t a good person. i know he doesn’t deserve it, im just saying that he’s not a good or likable person..

-so you think he deserves to be raped?

ur actually demented when im simply pointing out a flaw in a character, and keep acting like im justifying rape. please sign out sister you sound dumb as fuck <3 last reply cause you keep repeating the same things and are washing my replies down to a justification for rape.

"you sound dumb as fuck" bitch you sound like someone who snuck into earth and is trying to communicate for the first time lets be so serious. I dont care how "creepy" he came off to you and I never gave a shit about how aggressively he came onto to ML. your loaf of bread for a brain is the only one concerned about that, im simply saying imagine how traumatizing it is that you hit on someone and then get tormented by them. thats all... thats it SISTER. "I love waffles" "so you dont like pancakes" ahh reply. idc ab ur opinion on his initial creepy approach girl, look at what the ML is doing to him in response

when you reply to a comment talking ab a character's rape experience with "but he's not innocent" it makes ur argument sound like ur okay with him being raped you dumbass hoe

"he doesn't deserve to be raped"

"I agree but he's not innocent"

the FUCK is that supposed to mean? you smoothed brained ass bitch

"its so terrible he's been raped and then tormented"

-- "I agree but he's not innocent"

what the FUCK is that supposed to mean you dumbass hoe you can't follow up your agreement that him being raped is bad with a "but-" you smooth brained ass bitch

it doesn't make ANY sense

"its so terrible he's been raped and tormented"

"I agree, but he's not innocent"

you're not making a general, isolated statement. your response is to me saying he's been raped. this is how the conversation sounds

"your pasta is too stiff"

"so should I cook it longer so its softer?"

"no, I never said that, I just said your pasta is too stiff"

"its so terrible he's been raped and tormented"

- "I agree, but he's not innocent"

you're not making a general, isolated statement. your response is to me saying he's been raped. this is how the conversation sounds

"bob got into a car accident last Friday, how terrible is that"

"oh yeah, its terrible, but lets not act like he's not a jerk"

"so you're saying he deserves it?"

"no, im just saying he's a jerk"

???? LIKE WHAT

Guys chill

I know he's a crazy masochist but...isn't it a bit extreme?
In the beginning I wondered if he simply was too insecure to use the safeword, but now I realize he's never going to use the safeword because it frankly isn't intense enough for him; and the ML is kind of more on the normal side.

This story seems to more closely follow what true BDSM is (although obviously with some creative license). While it is the doms job to satusfy the subs desires, it is also their job to keep the sub safe, even against their own desires safewords are there for both parties partially for that reason. For the sub to stop things when they feel uncomfortable or are feeling in danger of really really getting hurt. But for the dom for the same reason, although for when they feel that the sub is taking things to far or refuses to see that they are in serious danger of really getting hurt. That little shit has no clue that his dom has been doing his best to keep him safe. Id have dropped his ass a while ago

People incorporate sharps and weapons into fear play and kink all the time

No. MC is self destructive, rude, and doesn’t even know his own limits. The line between play and assault is so thin. Even if MC is asking for it, one small mistake/ slip up and ML will be faced with a police case. Doms/sadists have their own limits too. Their consent matters too. Not to mention, doms have a responsibility to ensure all play is sane, safe, and consensual. Plus, ML already keeps his preferences in mind, and accommodates MC even at his own expenses and while having to set his work aside.

Thisss. Same. Being reckless and self-destructive but still being respectful and can be reasoned with is one thing… but I don’t deal with narcissistic self destructive brats with no respect for their partners. Been there, done that in my college years, and had to call it off pretty early on. Besides, the more you give them, the more they want. Play should never lead to permanent uncontrolled damage.

yeah but the sub is not a sub lol. he’s just a heavy masochist. if he’s not uncomfortable or the pain doesn’t bother him, then why keep holding off ? BDSM has safe words for a good reason, the author just decided to throw that part away entirely. slapping around and choking is BDSM yeah, but even as someone who’s not into this kind of stuff, i still know that BDSM can still go beyond that.. and that’s why he’s asking for repeatedly

the author keeps implying that the ML has a stronger, more sadistic side that’s a bit too dangerous to let out the cage, (especially when we first meet him) but throughout the story, we just come to find out he’s a normal dude and the extent of his BDSM is only just slapping and choking here and there. the MC is into heavy BDSM, so no i don’t see it as that out of the ordinary, bc there’s a lot of ppl into heavy pain (full bloodied up and everything lol). he just wants a bit more than slapping which i can get from a non masochist standpoint.

i’m pretty sure it’s clear that the MC knows his own limits considering… he’s fine after every single time they do a session. if the author was trying to make us see that he’s struggling to see his limits, he would be shown struggling or complaining ab the pain—but he’s always fine with it. i’ve seen BDSM go pretty far, so in my eyes i haven’t even seen them do anything that insane or crazy. “Doms/sadists have their own limits too” except the fact that the author implied in the very beginning chapters that the ML has a strong, sadistic and possibly dangerous side to him, yet we never got to see that. i’m not into heavy BDSM or pain, but even i’m aware that what they’re doing is still considered pretty light stuff in the BDSM community lmaoooo

Yeah I think the MC has a shitty personality and really bad bdsm etiquette but it's clear he hasn't gone anywhere near his limits. Otherwise we would be seeing him drop. He wants what a lot of kinksters want and do: get beaten bloody, get choked out, feel afraid and in danger. This story hasn't even scratched the surface. At least piss on him or something lol

seee thats what I be sayingggg honestly all we've been shown is that he gets tied up, choked and slapped around. its clear that the author has done no research on heavy BDSM bc theres a million things they could introduce with this. some masochists prefer humiliation, some like degradation, and then others like edging, its so obvious that the MC's enjoyment is primarily coming from feeling pain. WHY introduce safe words if the ML is going to stop despite the MC not using his safe word?? that defeats the whole purpose ??? if the MC was at his breaking point he'd use it but the ML is making that decision FOR him LIKEE cmon

Nah, first off, safe words are a must regardless of extremity. You don’t put them in place to push the sub into using them, you establish them to use in case of emergencies/ for use when needed. As for the rest, yeah but yall r forgetting that doms are allowed to have their own boundaries and preferences too. They’re incompatible so they need to stop being so toxic and disrespectful to each other and just call it quits ╮(￣▽￣)╭

Actually, MC has been clearly shown to not know his own limits and keep endangering himself. But ur right that there r many creative and safe/responsible ways of satisfying pain sluts like MC, but then we’d wouldn’t have a plot. Either that or the author is too inexperienced to come up with those scenes.

As for MC? He has 0 regards for his own well-being and safety. The only reason he’s fine after sessions is because ML is deciding that limit for him. He’d happily fail his classes, destroy his future, and his long term physical health for a moment’s gratification. If left up to MC he prob wouldn’t be satisfied until he sustains very serious injuries. He seems like the type that would only be satisfied once you land him in a hospital let’s be real. He doesn’t think anything through. Chasing adrenaline is great, but you don’t go sky diving without a parachute. That’s basically what MC does. I’ve seen ppl like him destroy themselves in real time then come back crying. Luckily for the person Ik personally wasn’t left with any permanent damage. As a dom you are responsible for protecting both yourself and your partner, because like I said one mistake and you can be behind bars for years, even if the play was consensual and documented.

Both ML and MC just suck, And have no respect nor etiquette.

you literally just repeated what I said. "You dont put them inn place to push the sub into using them" thats not what the author is intending regardless. the safe word being "I love you" is a gigantic foreshadowing like come on. and like I mentioned in other replies, the author implied HEAVILY that this "Dom" aka ML had a darker, much dangerous side to him, but this wasn't shown whatsoever. its like the author completely abdononed the idea.. and I agree they are incompatible--the MC is clearly asking for more and isn't anywhere near his breaking point (clearly) and the ML is dictating when to stop which frustrates him.

yeah I get that but "deciding that limit" kind of makes no sense when it's supposed to be an impersonal relationship either way, which is an entirely new conversation that I dont even want to start. And between those people you mentioned and this MC, there's a contrasting difference between "im almost at my breaking point, but keep going" and "im nowhere near my breaking point, keep going".... and the latter is the MC. he's not near his limits, thats why he's frustrated. and thats why this story is so annoying and redundant and also been the main conflict for like 15 chpts now. if he we're close to his breaking point and kept wanting more, then yeah, deciding when to stop for him would make perfect sense. but lets be real, a hardcore masochist isn't going to be satisfied with some slapping and choking. my point is I just wish the author would decide what they want to do with the ML so we can move on from this conflict.

I get that as a Dom you have to be safe, but im being so fr rn as someone who's so vanilla that im still not seeing how any of what's happening currently in the story is that insane.... ive read so much worse with BL's that aren't even intended to showcase BDSM

Well, it has only 5 chapters it’s a short story

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