Ok so his idea of being family together was never about growing and being happy together but about tearing him down and being miserable together,,, from the start he never considered J's pain as real but as just some light shit a rich kid complains about while only his pain is real, like if you really thought that from the start, if toi didn't see you both being equals and only thought "he's a privileged kid crying over nothing" then why did you cling to him as friends? And you yourselves set up the plan that J would start going along with everything his dad says and pretend to be the good son to have an easier time at home till he can leave it behind and go once he's an adult bit then suddenly you're annoyed he acts like his dad wanted and you risk your long term plan by showing up at his house, and then orchestrate this bullying crap? At this point WHY should he choose you when you're worse than his dad? At least he has to deal with dad cause he's dependent on him as a child and can't run away, what reason does he have to be with you when you're like that? When you're doing it out of malice weaponizing against him everything he shared with you as a friend,
Right, like dude high schoolers aren't toddlers, they're very much capable of conscious malice, I get it he's had it rough but let's not act like he's innocent, he knew exactly what he was doing to Jinyeong, he was doing it BECAUSE he knew how much it would hurt him, that's literally the whole point, he's doing it to cause him damage, and this wasn't even his dads abuse vs J's dads abuse, he was lashing out about his treatment at school by higher classes BUT HES DOING IT TO THE PERSON WHO WAS ON HIS SIDE FROM DAY ONE, and you're right he couldn't even deal with J's dad from one moment meeting, so how does he imagine he treats J that has to deal with him all the time? The man literally broke your laptop gave it back to J to give back to you and told him to cut ties,,, social norms didn't stop him from breaking something that doesn't belong to him so how do you think he treats his son as his property?? Is he mad that J didn't publicly defend him at school or something? He hung out with him publicly till J's dad made them break up so he had to stay friends only secretly, he wants j to realize the pain he goes through?? He gets it, cause he empathized with you from the start, he didn't need to have a worse time to side with you, he didn't need toi to hurt him to side with you, you were the one that felt no empathy for him from the start and saw him as some rich kid with no real problems just cause "they weren't on your level of problems", if you didn't feel like you related then why did you start a friendship with him from the start instead of pushing him away cause you don't think your problems are the same??? From the start there was no empathy from him for J and then to turn around and use what J confided in him to hurt him? That's LOW
You summed my thoughts up perfectly I love you
That is not true. In the first place before Jinhyung (idk how to spell…) said that his “real family” is his dad, Rik actually wanted to EARN MONEY ON HIS OWN to afford college bills FOR JINHYUNG. He saw Jinhyung as an equal before. The reason why he turned 180 is because he saw that their affection is not the same. “The 50,000 won Jinhyung spend on Rik was never the same as Rik spending 50,000 won on Jinhyung”. He believes that his affection to Jinhyung is earnest and desperate meanwhile Jinhyung was just playing. He feels that it’s unfair that in the end of the day he will be the only one fool getting too deep into this “play”. That’s why rn he’s trying to hurt Jinhyung. He didn’t sincerely want to downgrade Jinhyung before, so stop making it look like he’s some kinda villian or smth (not validating his actions though)
That's the thing tho he thinks J has to be desperate with no other options left for his affection to be real which isn't true, and even that is rooted in him believing J just doesn't have it all that bad in his own circumstances, that he's not desperate and not treating Rik as his only true friend,
If he thought the friendship sincerity wouldn't be the same he could've just not started the friendship from the start, it literally started from sharing their circumstances so it's not like he found that out later,,, either way that's a resentment he carried from the start no matter how willing he was to fantasize about that future being together if it was this easy to have a 180 and go this low to hurt him
He hurt him to say "see this is what I go through so you gotta go through it to feel what I feel" except J KNOWS how it feels cause that's what J goes through at home, but Rik thinks it somehow only affects him what he goes through at school but somehow doesn't affect J what he goes through at home?
and J didn't say he'd choose parents over him, only thought about the possibility of having both, Rik is conscious about it all enough to realize J having a change of mind was only about him still having hope that maybe his parents would change and treat him well just cause he had a little taste of them treating him well, he knows this cuase be felt the same before but he himself already came to the realization that hoping for that is useless, he COULD try talking to J and making him realize the temporary well treatment isn't real and they're only like that cause he's moulded himself to go along with their expectations and the "him" they like and are treating well isn't actually HIM, that he shouldn't start raising his expectations from the parents cause this is temporary and the only reason he started acting like their dream child was to have a temporary shield till he's adult and can get away, that their well treatment is never to his true self, instead he took it personally as another betrayal like his mom and decided to hurt him back, let alone with the same shit J told him his father hurts him with, that's deeply malicious
I'm not saying he was an evil mastermind from the start, but he wasn't exactly rainbows and sunshines sincere either if hes capable to go this low JUST CAUSE J said he'd like to have both family and him if he can, he collected everything he's mad about about everyone else and threw it at J, he had choices to make and he chose this
"I'm not saying he was an evil mastermind from the start" Okay, stop right there. I don't know why you're trying to explain that his actions are wrong when the argument was about you actually saying that Rik did wrong from the start.
"his idea of being family together WAS NEVER about growing", "FROM THE START he never considered J's pain as real" those are your quotes
He wasn't doing nothing wrong from the start. And this whole "family" charade was started by J. Just for him to say in the end that his dad is his real family. Throwing aside everything they have planned together.
I'm not validating any of Rik's actions, because in the end of the day he did bad. And he could've done better. But saying that he was like that from the start just invalidates his whole character and dilemma.
If you didn't mean that you should've chose your words carefully
Bro I'm saying he wasn't malicious from he start but he did carry resentment of their class difference and his inferiority complex, he wasn't tryna fuck him over from the beginning but he didn't see J's problems as worth complaining about and thought he's the only one with real problems, are we reading the same thing cause even ch 61 is saying exactly what I'm saying
HONESTLY??? IM GLAD TJE BUILDUP OF THE STORY OF A CHASING TOP WASNT RUINED WITH SELFISH PAINFUL SEX OR SMTH, bro so many times the buildup is ruined by a top acting selfish chasing his own orgasm cuase he feels like he has to be rewarded for waiting and chasing after the bottom for a long time and I'm glad it's not the case here, he's as gentle and loving as he's been throughout the years chasing, also love how asha enjoys it and he's the one asking for another round like AAAAAA
Right? Like FR Our King's Unchangeable Consistency of Actions and Attitude Towards Our Dumpling Queen is Pure Magnificence and a Purest Delight to Read
Their Relationship Towards Each Other is Just So Healthy
Totally get where this is coming from, we are always haunted by those type of manhwa/manga
From how much I’ve seen this recommended, it wasn’t very extraordinary ToT it was cute enough but also i literally don’t know how how baseball works so the game talk was meaningless to me, and the rest was mild and then what was with the sex scenes save meeeee, no lube no condom no prep no foreplay norhinnngnggngngng????? NOTHINGGGG?? And the end extremely underwhelming ToT
I’m losing my mind, 3 updates from manhwas today and all of them left me with trauma helpppp
Sobbing about the old friendship and how deep and sincere it was, I kinda really want them to meet again now and be each other’s brother and family like they promisedddd
Also Aaaaaa ARE BEOMSK ISAK AND EUNOH A THROUPLE GIMME GIMME GIMMEEEEEEEE
Bro a top getting thigh fucked?? WHAAA, I'd love it even more of they full on switched but stillll
I'd sell my organs to see them switch ლ(´ڡ`ლ)
Bro I’m pulling my hair out how much slower can the development of the romance beeeeeee aaaaaaaa, I’m annoyed how much of the story mc had a gf, I’m annoyed that instead of the couple developing ml just went off to give it a chance with that other random guy just cause, just to forget mc, like I thought you were the guy that took feelings seriously bruh…
And hibino having the audacity to be mad about ml accepting him not cause he’s in love but cause anyone would do, as if he literally didn’t approach ml for the sole reason that he’s also gay and any gay would do and he just wants to date ANYONE
and then Mike…. What is the point of him, bro acts like he was sad about losing a friend and that he wanted to apologize, but the moment he finds out it was real back then he goes “so it’s all your fault”??? What exactly is his fault???? Et shir?? Bro you called yourself his friend but now you’re pulling the bullshit of being mad on mc’s behalf that Ml likes mc?> bro what does that have to do with you at all? You’re literally as good as strangers? It feels like he’s threatening to tell mc or as if ml owes it to mc to tell him his feelings like ew bitch die”He ReaLly was My fRiEnD” and yet you’re acting no better that the bully glasses guy go away
But then I wanna shake ml bro do SOMETHING in the right direction, wth are these “dating some other guy I don’t like just to look away from mc” bsssssss
But also bro from the very first moment of the comic mc acts like he’s in love with him, they literally didn’t talk and he still couldn’t take his eyes off ml, couldn’t stop worrying about him, wishing him well and not in an “I want everyone to be happy” way but him specifically, thinking deeply about his possible circumstances, thinking that hard to put himself in his shoes and understand him better, bro what else do you call this other than love?like to him anything is fine if it’s ml, vulnerable talking, hugging, holding hands, immediately agreeing to prevent being his bf. BEIGN there for him immediately when he needs and he’s like that for ml from the first page of the comic and it’s insAAAAANE to me that out loud the first one to fall is ml and not mc it’s inSANE
Also bully glasses guy? Didn’t get beaten enough, where’s the fan service, where’s the justice ToT ALSO HOLY HELL WAS THAT -ACTUALLY- SAKURA’S COUSIN THAT WAS TRYNA SA HIM? ARE U FUCKING WITH ME RN? WHY WAS THE FIRST STEP NOT TELLING HIS MOM TO KEEP THAT COUSIN AWAY?????? LIKE AAAAAAAAA??????
But also reading coming out and being closeted stories like this feels so wild to me, cause I’m in a HELLA homophobic country and a lesbian, but I’ve come out to a BUUUUNCH of people and friends and been fine cause like sure most of them are female and thus more tolerant than men, but also, my process was being at least acquaintance level and having some convos liek haha have you seen this or that tv show do you ship this X queer couple in it? Oh have you seen this makeup artist youtuber that happens to be male? Oh have you heard this singer came out? Oh haha what would you do if your friend was gay?” Bro there’s a million ways i casually tested their views before casually letting them know the person I like ks female etc and it all turned fine, it’s WILLLLD to see in comics like this rawdogging coming out, wdym this normie friendship where you’ve never had emotional vulnerable convos, where you haven’t tested their views you just stand and come out HOW WHY HOW
Okay I love how the backstory wasn’t the villain being an ex or smth or past SA etc, and how mc got back at him every time
Also love how stable and loving the relationship is, like there’s no dramatic conflict just to put the reader through a rollercoaster
BUTTTT I hate the two conflicts between them, I hate how when the glasses guy tried to frame him he really leaned towards believing him and not mc when mc said he sent the right files, and like fucking hell its literally e-mails doesn’t he have his side of evidence of outbox to show what he sent? How did that even become a problem (in the work sense, not in relationship sense of him believing glasses guy that mc was the one who did wrong even when he knew glasses guy caused the last problem and didn’t even bother to come forward admit and apologize last time)
And then the last conflict… bro in no scenario can I ever see someone in this situation not congratulating mc on a new better job elsewhere, like can you look him in the eyes and tell him in an unbiased way that professionally he’d be better off staying there and not taking the new job? If you weren’t his boss there and your reasoning wasn’t “but I wanna see you at work everyday uwu” or “oh but we put so much effort into getting the wrongdoer guy punished and out just so you could get a promotion so you leaving would make that be for nothing” can you actually say he wouldn’t be better off both career-wise and mental well-being-wise at a higher position working for a friend he trusts, at a company where HES trusted, respected, needed and wanted? Like not even counting how he wasted 4 years of his life in here being disrespected so the association would itself make him feel better away from here cause he doesn’t even want that company’s acknowledgement of him anymore, but also you’re literally his boss there… who the hell wants to be subordinate to their lover?who wants the possibility of a repeat of that incident, a possibility to not be believed about what you said you did or didn’t do, or possibility to be professionally scolded by your lover? You’re gonna wanna be able to be mad at your boss without it equaling a conflict with your lover cause it’s clearly not gonna be sunshine’s and rainbows
Like he was right, you’re not everything about that company, he’s not gonna base his whole decision on whether or not he works there on the fact that you work there it’s not kindergarten, and you’re the one that has a rich family he can fall back on while mc actually NEEDS to build his career himself…
But also, I am someone that always loves all background characters being paired off into couples even if it’s a tiny bit, but damn did I really not need that old man yaoi with the villain, I didn’t need a happy ending for him or even a hopeful one, I’d rather there be side stories of mc’s and ml’s friends, the tall blond and the short redhead….
His hair turned fluffy and he turned into hosik lmao
But bro the first half of the comic was impossible to read, really the worst brand of tops to me are jealously possessive and rough tops when they have ZERO right to be jealous cuase bottom doesn't owe them anything, like bro he's been working with you for a week max and all you're thinking is feeling jealous over his hickeys as if he's your bf when he's nothing to you and you act like an ass about his and joons relationship and are all jealous but also you fo on fucking both him and therapist back and forth???? And he's a rough ass to the bottom both as an assistant and as therapist, bro the way he's treating the therapist as if therapist owes him shit and as if hes not literally sacrificing his body for YOUR medical problem treatment, the least you could do is be nice and instead he's acting like HES doing the therapist any favors and as if therapist is some "cheap prostitute' to him or something
And then he acts nicer when he realizes assistant IS the therapist and that he has feelings for him and now he's acting even nicer when he realizes he's fuzzball, but bro those mena nothing to me cause it spoke more of his character how he treated mc when he was no one to him and he harassed his assistant at work left and right and was rough with therapist,,,,,
But anyway the back and forth between them also feels kinda artificial cuase wdym they have this emotional moment of the top also realizing he's fuzzball and they both hold their past connection dear and it's important to mc but then next morning he wakes up and he's detached again like "but this doesn't mean I'll ever date you bye" and now hes again acting like sex is only part of the contract therapy and they're nothing to each other,,,, bro I'm getting whiplash here how much can this story go back and forth, he was acring like a jealous wife when during housewarming party game ml said he's more comfortable with betas etc and he's having all these fluttery feelings bur then nothing
But anyway I love the little brother so much, it's funny ag how he magically pops up literally whenever Joon is on screen, but also is he the topppppp?!?!?? OMEGA TOPPPP?!?!!!!?! honestly can't decide which combo I like more, him being clearly the bigger more muscular one but being the bottom or being an omega top, either way luv, but also does HE remember fuzzball and does HE know mc is him???
Also don't tell me mc is pregnant now....
My thoughts exactly
Oh I couldn't agree more, but to me I find it hilarious that he's being jealous of the hickeys because he's technically being jealous of himself, but of course since this is a perspective from the readers and not the character. And his reaction upon this realisation (that he's the one who gave the hickeys) is the cherry on top LMFAOOOOOOOO
Ye I mean the “Jealous of himself” trope if funny, but it’d be nice if it had an “I wish it were meee” vibe instead of “who tf is he fucking how dare he” vibe when he owes him nothing, he’s acting like bottom is his cheating bf or something when all he was was his assistant of a couple days
I thought the same !! It was funny, but his negative jealousy wasn't. I guess it was also him being judgemental of dobin? Since they're in a professional setting but dobin is "showing off hickeys". They were strangers and no more than colleagues at that time, and people tend to be judgemental of strangers