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Same... even with gorgeous art, the smut gets to be tiring when there's no plot.

So real. It took me 3 months to read Lotm, I was reading COI, but I took a break to read another series that my coworkers recced (dungeon crawler carl)... I'm also in the dead middle of ORV, and there's 2 BL, a very interesting Korean novel one, and Erha (which is infuriating so far btw -.-). Most of these I'm half way through before I got sidetracked with another story. Time? Hello time? Do you exist? Can you go slower? I have books to finish!!! (Starts global examination manhua anyways instead of finishing dungeon crawler carl...)

Hell yeah fellow LoTM rereader !!! I have read this novel and let me tell you it reads a lot easier than lotm lol

Depends on the version of lotm. The official reads smoothly like butter! But I'm also not a fan of first person stories so I kinda struggled with I can see your stats novel format :P

Is COI worth reading? My heart can't take the fact that the tarot card members are not that important anymore im sooo attached.

I'm only on volume 2 out of 8. COI is a chunk smaller than LotM but still a massive series. In my opinion, the author created a world, and the main characters are just there to explore the world. The world is the basis of the story, not the characters (though I do miss Klein and all of his "this is reasonable"s).

Lumian is a very different person. And COI is a very different plot. I enjoy the snippets back to the original LotM, while tarot card members aren't super big, they still exist and you see them semi regularly, just never from their prospective anymore, or at least not yet... I just realized we rarely ever leave Lumian's POV... He doesn't have a side cast like Klein did, where we follow them heavily too. Or at least not yet. Relatively speaking, I'm still starting this series. So I can't say later on it gets great or anything, I honestly don't know.

If you love LotM, love the lore, love the world. I very much think you should read COI and see where the world goes. But don't expect a Klein 2.0. Enjoy the fact that it's different. Lumain is a really fun MC in his own way, he's just definitely not Klein. Much more witty, funny, and sly. Cuttlefish said that lumain starts out so far away from Klein specifically to write about some world building he couldn't with Klein because klein didn't explore these areas of the map :P

I think in every genre, in every media, when there's and adaptation or a sequel people get angry that it's not exactly the same as the original. Those are the people who aren't happy. There's not as many important side characters, our favorite characters from lotm aren't there all the time anymore. It's a different story. With a different caste of characters. But that doesn't mean it's bad, it's just not the same. And that's okay. I've loved what I've read so far, and I like lumain.

TLDR: I haven't read enough to tell you if it's good, from what I've read so far I've really enjoyed it. I think you should read it if you've got the time :).

What is COI? I also read global examination manhua but Ive been marinating it for atleast a year now maybe this is a sign to reread

COI is circle of inevitability, the sequel to Lord of the mysteries. It has a different MC and takes place a few years after the end of LotM. Same universe though

Oh really? That's great! I will, however, read LotM first. Never got past chapter 5 and although the anime is wack with the details it did help with visualizing things. I took way longer than I should imagining the Luck Ritual. (￣∇￣")

True, I almost dropped it when that mage girl appear. What made me stay is that he's not entertaining them.

There is no romance I've read the novel, those blushy girls are only shown in the manhwa, they don't happen in the novel and even till 600+ chapters of the novel, no girls are close enough to mc like- barely had any interaction, instead we got bromance between mc and his oc lol

Yep, I think I saw one of the novel readers commented about this, which made me stay. Besides even tho there's a lot of girls blushing around mc, (who wouldn't (▰˘◡˘▰)) also, atleast the girls here have personalities and are not only shown as fanservice unlike other stories. ╮(￣▽￣)╭

idk If having women as characters in the plot would classify as being labeled 'harem'... There's still no romance, and by the sounds of it, the novel is not far off from that either. So far all we have is an aura farming mc dying for a day off lol

Yeah, I noticed that some people have different meaning for harem. I thought harem means the mc have a relationship with more than 1 person, but I saw in some comments just having multiple girls around mc even though they are not romantically involve with him is considered 'harem'.

Oh? That's an intriguing thought process, I must say. Though, wouldn't every webtoon & story from there on out be considered 'harem' in that circumstance? It doesn't quite make much sense in that aspect of things. So, I think I'll stick with the older definition, which would only take place with more than one romantic action and multiple parties involved lol

Exactly. I usually check the comments first before reading action stories because I want to know if there's a romance or harem(in my definition) in it. That's where I found out they call it harem if there's multiple women around the MC, say for example the 1st comment which called this story harem.

Honestly your definition of harem is in the literal sense. Which is absolutely correct, but in manga term, might be a bit more to it. It is when more than one character shows romantic and/or sexual intention for MC, amd pursues MC actively. So even if MC is only romantically involved in one FL, if the others still declare their intentions to be together with MC, it's still declared harem.

Another big harem label is when more than one character is portrayed heavily in fanservice poses, especially around MC. Yes, it's very annoying and degrading of those characters. And sometimes hinders the plot. But sadly, some people do like it, and these people are definitely the target audience for merchs.

Honestly that's harem in manga. But it's not really the case here, is it.

What people in the comments usually hate about is romance in action comics. Because God forbid there is emotions in action comics. It doesn't matter if there's nothing, one lady blushing is enough to deter some people from reading.

To be fair though, wtv. If they don't wanna read it, then let them be. They're mostly true in their hate anyway, because action authors don't usually know how to properly insert romance into the plot. Most of the time, romance in any capacity do destroy the flow of the plot. But some of them can be good if only you gave them the chance.

That's a really good explanation, i didn't know that there's a different meaning of harem in mangas and that other commenter are using the definition right, tho as you said there are also people who use the word harem to describe the story just because there's a romance in it.


As someone who hate romance in action stories, my reason is that, most of the time it's not needed in the story. You can also see other people who hate romance in story say, that if they wanted to read a romance story with action, they can read shoujo instead. The point is, if it's labeled action, then it should be purely action, and if there will be romance or harem in it, they should also label it to inform the readers.

Just imagine this, You're a vegetarian and went to eat to a restaurant who advertised that they only sell products for vegetarians, that means that they don't sell meat so you don't have to worry about eating it. You sit in your table ordered your vegetarian food and lo and behold, the waiter served you with nachos, with beef as dip as complimentary meal. When you complain to the manager why they serve you beef when they advertised that their restaurant don't sell meat, they answer you with "but we didn't sell it to you, it's a complimentary and free. The same as when they label a story as action then have romance or even worse become harem in the end. (Tho maybe the reason why they don't label it is because it will cause people not to read it)


I hope you get my point. However, even though I hate romance in action stories, I do still continue to read some of action stories even if they I found out that it has romance in it. Why? Simple. The romance was written and introduced well. I probably hate romance because of how the author portrays the women in it, a damsel in distress, only there for fan service and to boost the MC's ego, and no personality at all. There's even times when I want it there to be a romance in the action story I'm reading, even tho I hate romance in stories, which is contradicting. (ᵕ—ᴗ—)

So my point is, most of the time the reason why the readers hate romance in action stories is because of how it was written. Tho some people just hate romance the romance and girls being in the story.


Ps. Well that's all for my ramblings, you don't have to reply, gotta save this for when I have to explain my perspective about romance in action stories. (￣▽￣||)

Honestly do they have personalities though? I’m only on ch 47, so I don’t know about later chapters, but all the women except for the mage girl who is only interested in getting stronger and in magic, are all just blushing, and wishy washy characters who only show up to simp for the mc. Except for the knight girl who has her cool moments. I’d say this is bordering on harem since it’s so painfully self insert and almost every other lady is there to crush on the mc

I think it depends on your perspective. Aside from that possessed girl, the actions of other women here for me are tolerable, compared to women in other action stories I've read. There's also men around our MC, compared to other stories where all the MC's companion are women. I can't blame the women here as well, afterall, if I was in the position of these girls, i've probably simp as well.
In some stories I've read, not only are the girls blushing whenever they see mc they even throw themselves at him, follow him around, and are like NPC's programmed to blush and simp, while showing as much skin as they can. Some are even going so far, like kiss him when he's drunk, or go to his bed at night when he's sleeping. That's probably why I'm not that bothered

Love Is An Illusion!

I've read that

It is popular but if you didn't read : low tide in Twilight

I'm not really fun of anything that's rape now.

Okay then mabey : bye bye.
Tough I dont really rembere if it was like you want it but the mc still gets pregnant. Its a bit sad tought

barring from the main story, you could try the side stories they're much more tame compared to the previous chapters in the main

Okayy thankss. Imma give it a try

The whole story is very much known to me now because of TikTok lmao

Not BL but One Night Only has a male omega and shows his pregnancy.
Minmotion Syndrome also shows the pregnancy arc (or at least the baby bump lmao). It starts off a bit... Questionable, with the omega blackmailing the alpha, so idk if you'd like that (if I recall correctly it's not nearly as noncon as low tide, just depends on your limits) (but also fair warning the omega gets assaulted by his ex)