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I'd be sad if this was all there is, these characters have such an interesting dynamic and such a struggle ahead of them.
My first question!
As the title says, just a fun question for anyone to answer. What's a stereotype or trope or common thing in yaoi/mlm webtoons that yuggs you out? No yumming anyone's yuck, please, full respect all around!
Posting this question because I was talking to a friend who also enjoys explicit graphic novels and we both agree that the sound effect "SQUELCH" is just aaahhh hahaha so yuggy, that we joke to each other now by saying "But Does It Squelch??" Hahaha please share with me yours! (▰˘◡˘▰)
yuggs = yucks???
if so it’s probably seeing blood during forcible penetration
No foreplay bc then it just makes me think the penetrator is really bad at sex and then I can’t get into it
Sexual: Rimming
Non-sexual: Flashbacks that are CHAPTERS long, often used as a way to excuse why a character is as shitty as they are in the present
Sexual: lack of mutual consent + when one character continuously says “no” “wait” “don’t” yet the other keeps going anyways or even worse says the other character’s body says something else (this is not hot at all) + lack of kisses
Non-sexual: when main characters can’t communicate properly for the life of them for 20+ chapters
one word..."debt".
My nightmare
Like rich powerful strong big buffy top then small broke innocent bottom basically whatever jinx has but like to sum it down small bottoms that look like children then big strong tops cus like it just looks like pedophila to me cl
Yeah, its a regional adaptation to the word yucky, hahah sorry if it was confusing for you!
Yeah! I totally get you and agree. I imagine that both tropes to an extensions are re-imaginings of the "predator and prey" trope in heterosexual media where the "woman" (bottom) must deny their (sexual) urges, lest they lose their value. For what its worth, when I *don't* have to read stories with that trope, it makes it so much better and more refreshing! (￣∇￣")
Thanks for your response!
While I can agree that male beauty can come in all shapes and sizes, when its a super popular trope like that with no variation, I can't help but wonder what the motivation of it all is, too. I can see wanting to appeal to a large group of people with the character designs, from people who want a really buff top or a smaller framed bottom in certain scenes, but I do agree that variety is the spice of life! I think readers like ourselves wanting to see something different from that can be a really good opportunity for more diverse stories to be told and be successful. Thank you for your response!
I totally agree! One, maybe two chapters at most for sure, good writing shouldn't rely on any more, specifically for this medium. One of my favorite Manga is Orange and the second to last chapter had so much impact including a perspective from a different character than the main narrative. Its a tool for a writers toolbox, for sure, but I'm not sure if its the best when over extended. Thanks for your response!
For sure, like TTATT
As someone who's been sexually active for a long time, I think that authors should definitely take the time to allow the characters to enjoy the journey more while we readers get to enjoy too! Not having foreplay in a session of sex in a story can assume things about motivation between characters, but normalizing a lack of it is definitely a feels bad moment.
I mean I'm not really saying this cus I like variety I just don't like it when bottoms look like children but np
The set up and subject was so interesting, though the beginning was too rushed, it normalized the assault of the co-main and made it lose its impact as a mode of storytelling for the story. Despite being supernatural, with deities and magical thinking, there was little visual representation towards that, which disappointed me. I personally didn't feel any connection between the main characters to have the climax be impactful either.
A moment of transparency: one of my biggest fetishes is the concept of a bottom being worshipped through sex, so this story was something very interesting to me. However, the fact that it was never consensual really bummed me out. The transactional status of sexual intercourse from tradition to modernity is such an interesting subject and perspective that could have really taken this story to the next level, but the shallow writing and heavy reliance on rape porn as "easy character development" I feel really let the potential of these characters down. I didn't even get to see the main character who was a journalist even write anything down. :/
I know obviously I'm asking too much for this short story to have density, but that it had so much potential to be someone's favorite someday really shows how much it lacks.