
OKOK SO I LOVE THIS MANGA IN GENERAL- i love the concept, how catching the beginning was, the art, basically everything, but i dont really vibe with the new arc. i liked it a lot at first, and cried a bunch because i was glad that they’re finally happy, but i hate how like,, it became more comedy n stuff rather than what it was like before. and dont even get me started on the little girl and her brother,, unnecessary lolicon trope bullshit. it grossed me out so much. and i hate hayase’s new generations too they really made the only bearable one disappear, thats so unfortunate.

i love this sm,, tbh i dont mind if theres gonna be romance, i just hope it doesnt overshadow the main plot/distract the mc/etc. although tbh i feel like a relationship in this type of setting would feel forced, since they’re all just trying to survive ^^ either way, im so hyperfixated on this webtoon rn, i dont typically read novels but im gonna do it this one time (๑˃ᴗ˂)

the emperor is so annoying,, i forgot his name because it was really long, but i just dislike people like him sm. he’s so hypocritical and just overall a dumb piece of shit. like come on !?? u divorced her and NOW you want her ?? how moronic is that ?? i hate rashta, but even i feel a little bad for her, being stuck with someone like him.

IM SO SORRY BUT I DONT RLLY LIKE HELENA- like i understand her character, and tbh i think she’s really sweet, and not even in the naive way, and i would’ve adored her in another circumstance, but i dont like how she just,, doesnt do anything abt whats going on ?? like bro speak up. anyways redhead man hot as fuck

What can u do if u were in her situation, if she were to speak out the prince would think someone is hurting her so he'd punish the ppl around her and they would just hate her more, try to put urself in her shoes before saying she should've done something, put that hate energy on the crown prince instead of helena

First of all, they were childhood friends, she was a kid, enough said about that, eris bullied helena and who tf would like their bully and stand up for them? Make it make sense, also about getting close to the crown prince, u can see that he's the one who calls for her and if she doesnt go ppl around her will get hurt, about the escort thing, how do you know she wasnt forced into it? As far as ik they didnt show her enthusiastically agreeing to be his escort, you assumed she did, yall would do everything in your power to hate on the women but not the man, who's clearly at fault here and I'd like to say eris isnt innocent, she bullied helena

I’m not claiming eris is innocent but what we’re not gonna do Is absolve Helena of guilt and act as if she doesn’t know what she’s doing and has been doing. Eris was terrible to Helena but that due to her feeling as though her spot, on that’s she had been wanting next to crown prince was being taken.She purposely got close to crown prince and let eris get demonized which caused her to act out. Eris can’t even breathe next to Helena without being called a wicked witch even if she didn’t nothing and Helena just watches and does nothing. Eris’s actions aren’t okay but let’s not act as if they’re wasn’t a reason for her madness. Whether or not she was enthusiastic to be his escort doesn’t matter because she knows good and well she shouldn’t have even been his escort. She knows how that would make The crown princes fiancé look, and the blame mainly falls on crown prince of course but she went along with his idea. Let’s not act like crown prince is holding her hostage and she has no idea what’s she doing when she said before. Also who’s hating on women only and not hating on the crown prince? If you used a bit of common sense everyone including me hates the crown prince and he is the cause but the doesn’t mean that Helena actions are null and void all of a sudden. Obviously the crown prince is way worse than anyhting Helena did,I’m pretty sure a first grader could tell you that but that doesn’t mean her actions are bad as well although on different levels due to context. The crown prince is a asshat who needs to get knocked down a leg and Helena is someone who isn’t oblivious to the harm she’s causes to eris. Try again with the whole “blaming all women” thing causeee ain’t gonna work on me

You know there is something called "power imbalance", helena isnt completely innocent, she mostly is tho, but shes a powerless commoner, you want her to stand up against a member of the imperial family? What would happen to her if the crown prince starts hating her cuz of that? He'll treat her like eris or even worse, or he could go all yandere on her ass, bitch is mentally unstable, Also she was literally raised by her mother to be non confrontational, this is how she learned how to survive, also she's not the one demonizing eris, it's the crown prince, if I remember correctly there was a scene where the crown prince accused eris of hurting her and she said it ain't eris fault, but I couldve mixed that up with another manhwa anyways, do you not know they were childhood friends are you saying a child purposefully got close to the crown prince with ulterior intentions? Even if she did it would probably be due to her mom or some other adult in her life, also from her pov we can see the crown prince and his mom are the ones calling for her all the time and the whole power imbalance thing also comes in when she accepted his escort (assuming she did) she could've been too scared to refuse, imagine refusing the request of a crown prince with the empress involved? she is a coward but its understandable that's how she was raised, you can't throw years of brainwashing away in a short time, also why should she care about the feelings of her bully? She doesnt have to do anything for eris, neither eris or helena is the villian nor are they the "good person" they're both products of their environment, they became this way cuz of the ppl around them

Never once did I ignore their a power imbalance but that doesn’t mean she didn’t make her own choices that were wrong. Idk what you mean by her standing up for herself but I’m not asking her to become a strong FL she isn’t and won’t be but she knows what doing and her saying no won’t lead to her being treated like Eris because in crown princes mind Eris is cause of all thing wrong and bad. If anything Eris would receive more of his pain since he would conjure up in his head that she’s cause of helenas action. I’m abt 90% postivie in her backstory it literally says her mom purposely put her and crown prince together to bring down Eris family, Like I’ll have find the chapter but I remember that happening and then she said when she saw Eris cry that was first time she saw her a human. So yea that’s exactly what I’m saying. The crown prince trash don’t let me speaking on Helena every make you forget they fact but that doesn’t mean Helena is innocent and because of her situation her actions get absolved. Same goes with Eris just cause Helena aided in her being Ostracized doesn’t make her actions okay but we can’t act as if Helena did nothing and she’s innocent. She bad just like crown prince (on different levels obvi). They did become that way because of people around them but doesn’t excuse their actions it’s an explanation. (Personal opinion)-> Helena to me isn’t a good person, she has boundaries she won’t cross like with the dress but no problem showing up as crown princes escort for his fiancé’s coming of age party. I just hate people acting as if she’s completely innocent and she’s a victim who has done nothing bad. She had done a lot wrong and that’s why a lot people don’t like her
i cried so hard during this, having immigrant parents that were also old fashioned and placed a lot of value into my brother i really related to that aspect, and the feeling of hating how they treated u but also loving them and pitying them for their childhood and the reasons why they treated u that way. i felt the same way with the characters, the mom and dad especially, i hated how they could so easily ignore their own enabling behavior but also could understand why they were that way. im so so happy the mc got a happy ending i was worried this would end with her dying but im glad thats not the case lol