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it is satirical obviously , making fun of every single manga where apparently everyone is gay

chill this is making fun of the fact of how in literally every office BL the characters are fooling around all day

thanks for the heads up. Don't think I got heated though, so no need to chill lol

It's a gag manga that makes fun of office yaoi by exaggerating popular but unrealistic tropes like sex in the office or dildo during a presentation.
It's not supposed to make sense, it's meant to point out what doesn't make sense in normal BL. That's why it's tagged as comedy.

You can't possibly think this has any pretense of portraying real life... I mean, what are the chances of a company were 99% of the staff are men, with full sexual prowess (no old men, no impotence and no ED) and gay?

If you can not see the plethora of other comments, I have been informed that the comic is supposed to be satirical. I have read those kind comments and understand so hopefully people reading this comment know that I have read them so people can stop leaving the same comments. Also, I guess you'd be surprised that manga and comics like that obviously do exist which is why this comic is satire, its a gag referencing those comics existence because its generally a genre that is known to be written by straight women and fetishize gay men.

Unless that person really is just that dumb, no one reads the yaoi genre and think of it as accurate potrayal of real life gay people anyway. Even in the bara genre (where's it usually made by gay men for gay men), a lot of it are also highly unrealistic. Fictional stories let's you play with unrealistic ideas and crazy fantasies . Anyone with a properly functioning brain can differentiate between fiction and reality just fine.

I guess you haven't noticed, but this site is fuuuull of dumb underaged kids. I remember being young and reading my first yaoi and even just reading anything, shoujo, regular teen/young adult books...there are people on this site reading stuff and not knowing what is real, fake, or exaggerated or knowing its fake but learning messages subconsciously. Its not as rare as you think.

I am well aware, which is why I mentioned "unless that person really is just that dumb". Those that are sane would know better than to take fictional stories too overly serious, especially one in the yaoi genre with a blatantly obvious comedy tag. If people took every single work of fiction so seriously, treating it as if it's part of reality/accurate portrayal of reality and choose to be offended by a story that's not even real, then plenty of horror/erotica writers would've been crucified long ago for all those twisted ideas & dark fantasies that are taboo in real life.

lol I like how you made this about something that it wasn't about at all. Like nobody was talking about what you're talking about, you just brought it up. When I read the first couple of pages I couldn't tell it was satirical because I have read manga and manhua that REALLY is just that bad. Like its just bad and super dumb and unrealistic. I commented with that in mind and people let me know it was supposed to make fun of that. I thought the "comedy" was just cringy instead of satire. I know it isn't now thanks to a few comments. So really, I get that you have something on your mind you wanna bring up and talk about, but thats not what was even going on here. I guess I can see how you thought it was though. And I wouldn't put kids under the label of stupid people, they're just kids, they don't know shit yet but think they do. We were all there at one point. Somebody had to teach us all how to use a damn spoon. The only difference is that with the internet minors now have access to content they don't have to maturity and knowledge to understand and distinguish some situations and ideas.

Well as you said, this site is full of dumb underage kids.
Satirical or not, this was simply a fictional comedy to begin with..nothing more than that.
Point is, too many people take fiction a bit too seriously sometimes and they start overreacting or misinterpret things. I think it happens to everyone at some point, including myself. So I think it's good to occasionally remind ourselves and others that fiction is just fiction. Some have even become delusional enough to start harbouring immense hatred for something that's not even real at all. I've read some comments from people saying that this manhwa is giving them a lot of real stress, anger and frustration to the point that they can barely continue reading it anymore....which to me is kind of an overreaction.

I think those people just sound invested in the story. Or maybe the content hits home with a situation they've been in. Whats the point of stories if you can't become invested in the events or characters. Sometimes its hard to finish a story when you're invested and bad things happen, no shame in that. I remember people having to stop reading books about abuse because its just a hard topic. Stories are supposed to make us react so I don't think theres really an overreaction unless people are like sending death threats or something because of it

Highly likely, yea. It would be some sort of continuation from the kill of Jieun. In ch19, I think Sangwoo wanted Bum to feel relief from killing like he did. Sangwoo didn't get the response he wanted from Bum in the start of the first season. So perhaps killing someone who Bum hates might change Bum's thoughts about killing.

Yeah, I also think that Sangwoo was trying to agitate Bum. Like with the meat thing and then him cutting specifically red cake. Sang woo killed someone so he has to know.

Really? I think Sangwoo was really just asking what he wanted to eat. And might have only realized the effect of his words afterwards. Lol but yea, perhaps Sangwoo did have a motive behind the meat thing, he's quite a little shit after all lol

you say it all sister, amen for thatヾ(❀╹◡╹)ﾉ~

I like him. I like Hee. I like Jumi. I just find that Hee and Jumi are more approachable, though Yoo Won seems more reliable. I think the reaction is that 1. we see Hee Bum's broken heart and 2. we don't really see Yoo Won's emotions. People tend to sympathize with the person who is clearly, openly hurting.

I think that's why so many are rooting for all three to be happy. I actually don't care what form the happy ending takes. I want all three smiling.

And also, we don't really know what Yoo Won is thinking. WE GUESS. You don't actually know why Yoo Won broke up for sure, not with the chapters we have here. You are guessing. We're all guessing. Because their love story/background/etc is still pretty much in the dark.

Since we assume Yoo Won is a good guy, we assume he's got a good reason. But when the story focuses mostly on the heartbroken guy, our reader sympathies heap that way--and the author has forced that.

Dude can you stop replying to all my Yoo Won posts. Like...okay thanks for your input, I've heard lots and lots of your opinion. I think we have exhausted the conversation that the two of us alone can have on the subject. All you keep doing is explaining to me, what I have already inferred and understand as I have a functioning brain. I know its all speculation, and thats exactly what the comment section is for. So really, its okay for you to stop picking apart my comments to try to find flaw in my thinking or whatever you're trying to do. Thanks dude, I get it. You just say the same things 100 different ways. I know what you're trying to communicate already. At this point I don't even want to comment on this story anymore if you're gonna leave a string of comments telling me to what we can all see with our own eyes and infer with our own brains. I'm not saying all that stuff because its obvious and its not the subject I think would make for a more interesting conversation.

Again thank you, but I want nothing more to do with the conversation. We are just at dead ends and discussing different ways to think at this point.

Honestly, didn't even notice your name. I reply to the comments and NEVER read the names (does it matter?)

I will reply to any comment I feel like responding to. You are not the God of me. YOu don't get to tell me who to reply to. If you dont want responses, don't post.

He's the one who broke up with Hee and he's the one who avoids socializing. I'm sure he has his own reasons for his distancing, but if he doesn't get comforted, it's really him who is making that situation--so far, anyway. I bet Hee would spoil him if he allowed it. I bet even Jumi would.

Thiiisssss^^

I think Yoo Won is a good guy, so he must have broken up for a good reason. I'm sure in time we'll get his story. I like all three of them, even though at the start, Hee Bum was so pushy and annoying with Jumi, he was irritating. Then you see it was about his broken heart, so you understood and felt sorry for him and liked him. And I think when we get Yoo Won's story and his reasons, we'll likely be the same--understanding and sympathetic. Cause you can tell he's got a heart and, like Hee, he's probably got some hurts. We've seen he can be caring....

I need them to be HAPPY!!!!!!!!!!!! Sniff.

Thats not the point...sure they would try to comfort him but they still wouldn't actually understand his problems and....that feels even worse. Even if your friends are trying when your problem seems so out of touch with their reality it makes you feel bad. You don't want to live so differently or have problems that are strange to other people, especially to people you love. Also, we don't know the details of their relationship, Hee Bum might really like or being infatuated with Yoo Wom but that doesn't mean their relationship was good or healthy. We will have to wait and see.

He hasn't done anything that I can see to make them understand his problem much. And you're right, we don't know what their relationship was like. That remains to be explained. The author is not giving us that. She's given us enough Hee and Jumi that we know they're not bad people. We see him being nice to Jumi and putting himself at risk to help her. He's more impulsive and emotional than Yoo Won.

But it's not other's people's job to read our minds. We have to express ourselves clearly and try to be understood. That is also part of a relationship.

Again, I think you're speaking a bit biased. We don't know the details of their relationship or personal lives. Not everything in our lives is easy to talk or be open about. I think its too soon to criticize Yoo Won. I agree that Hee Bum and Jumi are good people. I just think its like Jumi said, Yoo Won seems to live in a world pretty different from their own; its not their fault if its hard to empathize with him. I was just saying I wish he had somebody there for him like Hee Bum and Jumi are supporting each other, he seems depressed and lonely.

Also like you said about Yoo Won avoiding socializing, thats typical for people with poor mental health or depression. Im not saying he without a doubt has depression, but from what I can see it very much seems that way. Depressed people tend to push others away. I don't think we should blame people that are having a hard time and that need support to get better for doing things they have little control over or don't realize they're doing. When you're having a hard time you don't always realize you're alienating yourself.

Yeah, I can see the possibility of depression being there. But don't blame the people who don't want to be an imposition or look at him and think he's pushing them away. Again, people aren't mind-readers and shouldn't be expected to be.

Lol idk why you keep acting like I blamed them, I never said anything was Hee Bum or Jumi's fault. I actually said that they both have tried and are good people and friends. All I said though was that I feed bad for Yoo Won and that I wish had somebody close to him right now like Hee Bum has Jumi. I want all of them happy.

Reread your opening post. You totally blame the others for "not understanding," "not treating him well."

Okay, thats wasn't me blaming them, I will explain. I am not blaming them by saying they do not understand. I didn't say it was their fault they didn't understand him, but it is accurate to say they don't understand him. They are not doing it purposefully or to hurt him. I have nothing against them, I love them. They don't get what his life is like but thats not their fault. I don't see how you can interpret what I said as blaming them for his problems. Also, they are not who I a referring to when I said people that don't treat him well. A lot of people try to get close to him for selfish reasons. The red head girl, the girl from his old school, etc.

Also, by not treating him very well I was referring to how he always ends up getting ditched. Jumi always goes with Hee Bum when he is upset, but sometimes Yoo Won is upset and its sad that nobody choses to comfort him. Thats nothing against them, but it would feel bad from Yoo Won's perspective. He doesn't blame them, and neither do I. Hee Bum makes his sadness clear and so people naturally will try to comfort the people who are making their feelings obvious or openly crying. But that doesn't mean Yoo Won isn't sad too. I wasn't saying they should choose and comfort him, just that I wish he had somebody that did.

And that goes back exactly to what I said: He needs to do something to get comfort if he wants it. Because if you act like you're absolutely fine and another person is bawling,w ho are you going to comfort? Not the person who is acting all in control and unbothered. You're gonnba go hug the person who is open enough to show they are hurting.

He didn't act like he was fine. Hee Bum just always runs off and cries, so how would Jumi have time to notice Yoo Won was sad? Also, what you're saying is just messed up. You think people that don't show their emotions do it because its fun? Because they want to be alone? Sorry but that isn't how it always works, you act like its so simple and black and white. People have different lives, raised differently, have different interactions. Who knows what Yoo Wons life has been like that he has a hard time showing his emotions? Also, I think its pretty clear that he doesn't like hurting Hee Bum so when he is forced to do something that will make him sad he probably thinks he deserves to be upset. This is clearly no simple break up. Yoo Won didn't just break up with Hee Bum because he couldn't stand being with him anymore. Yoo Won is older and is trying to be mature in front of both Jumi and Hee Bum. As the elder and being in Korean culture he is expected to "suck it up" and act like he is okay/ look out for them instead of himself. I think that Yoo Won had several reasons for breaking up with Hee Bum. I think he was genuinely trying to do what he thought was best for them both, especially if you see how Hee Bums dad reacted to the picture of him. He could be trying to protect him or both of them. I think you're being way too hard on Yoo Won who is clearly just trying to do what he thinks is best for either himself or Hee Bum which is a perfectly acceptable thing to do. Idk what you have against Yoo Won but he clearly isn't a bad guy and has a lot of stuff and stress in his life right now. Being in a relationship when you're like that is usually a bad choice.

It's pretty clear to US, the manga readers. And some of it is obvious to Jumi and Hee, no doubt. But it's still a matter of the wall. If someone puts up a wall, others respect it If you want to be held, comforted, etc, the wall has to come down. Because as Jumi said, she's on Hee Bum's side. And that's normal. People take the side of those who make an effort to know them, be with them, interact, and be vulnerable with them.

I am not impuning Yoo Won about the relationship. I have no clue what went on with those guys--good or bad--because their backstory is still pretty much a mystery. Yoo Won is a mystery, moreso than the characters we see.

But the fact remains: if you don't open up to people and show your need, people can't always see it and understand it and give you what you need. Simple as that.

And, btw, when I read the first chapters when they came out, I assumed the breakup was for good reasons (or at least, manga-world good reasons). Be it a family issue or a "I need to focus on studying" issue or you're rich/I'm poor or my family has a cirminal background and yours has a high status issue.

In fact, I thought Hee Bumw as the asshole at first, with how he was so aggressive with Jumi. It was seeing his broken heart that softenened me. I like him a lot now. :D

That's beside the point. The point is that if you WANT to be understood, then make a damn effort to BE understood. That's what Hee Bum, in his weird little way did. He made himself and his hurt and his needs known to Jumi and she responded.

Yoo Won, in his own personality way, has to be more open if he WANTS to be comforted. If not, he won't.

Okay cool dude. But realize real people with real mental illness are reading your comment of "The point is that if you WANT to be understood, then make a damn effort to BE understood" and feeling even shittier about themselves, which in turn makes doing what you're telling them to do even harder. Its not that easy and it takes time and close and serious connections with people to be able to do that. Stop over simplifying. You do not display a personal knowledge of battling severe depression or any sort of anxiety disorder. Stop telling people how to behave because its just bullshit. In the context of the story what you're saying isn't a big deal, but REAL people will read your comment and it will have REAL effects on them. You seem self absorbed when you over simplify and categorize things so black and white.

I have suffered severe depression, including suicide attempt, which shows you aren't as perceptive as you think.

Also, you only see things your way. Maybe accept not everyone is going to agree with you or with me. You gave your opinion and I gave mine. No one said we had to agree.

lol I'm the one who can only see things my own way???? WOO BOY (￣∇￣")
And you weren't even giving opinions, you were literally saying my thinking is incorrect because we don't have enough info. Like, what? Whats the point of doing that over an over? You're fucking craaaazy. You like just couldn't accept that I was saying stuff you disagreed with because you're the one who kept coming after me and couldn't just let a simple comment go. I'm done, nut job.

Yes. You are as entrenched in your opinion as I am in mine.