I just don't know how to feel. This kid is 14. There should be no relationship with this child. Also, Yuuji is his guardian. He's been almost like a dad to him. Its just...realistically, this manga is sending some weird messages but the one its sending me the most is that Yuuji doesn't know how to put his foot down. He is the adult and guardian. He doesn't have to bend to Hayato's will, he should be telling him whats up. If there is info he is in charge of as the guardian, he doesn't have to share that. He's still the guardian here and in charge in that sense. He is being super irresponsible and I know Hayato sees him romantically, but like...I just feel like it would be hard to feel that way after Yuuji went from coming and going as his uncle, to being his live in full-time guardian. I think the reason his feelings have persisted romantically because Yuuji never drew that distinction clearly enough by just being the boss. I don't know...I just think the stuff going on here is so much more complicated than the story is making it out to be. I don't see how this can be a love story... I mean, I wouldn't hate it if there was no romantic relationship before 18 but...I just think the situation isn't being handled well. I know they aren't related by blood but they've been everything family is to one another for their whole lives. Hayato has so much growing up to do, I don't know if I will be satisfied if he writes off all the experiences he should be having to help him grow as a person during these next few important years of his life.
I know Im getting a little to real but... I don't know. Its just such a complicated situation.
He was like 13 when Hayato was a toddler. He's the head of house, but not a father figure. More appropriate to call him an older brother. Yes, 13 is too young, but Hideyoshico has already aged Hayato to 14. I don't see them jumping into bed anytime soon. This romance is showing a solid steadfast love in an improbable scenario. It's fantasy....fiction. Of course no 13 or 14 yr old is that driven or committed in reality, it would be creepy, and deluded.
Yeah, I agree. I think the kid is very immature (or like, acts his age). Even without the reasons you stated, I can't imagine a sane adult falling for that.
I know she's isn't going to have it jump into a sexual relationship, but Im still concerned about a romantic one. Kids need to be around other kids to develop and learn societal skills properly. Being romantically involved with an adult, especially that much older and when you're so young, can be really stunting emotionally and mentally. How I thought and processed the world around me, the things I thought I knew, the way I lived, all at 14 is so incredibly different to me now and even just since entering college. I can't imagine how confusing and how much it would have determined and changed who I am now if I had been trying to have a romantic relationship with somebody about 10 years older than me. I just don't think it would work or be good for either people. I feel like the author won't really have them romantically involved anytime soon.... but them being around each other with this tension while Hayato is trying to grow up and is going through so much development and his brain is still forming and changing so much during this time...it just seems like a really bad situation. Hayato has so many other things he should be focusing on in his life right now other than getting this old man to like him and trying to grow up fast...Its kind of like your childhood is taken from you when you're romantically and sexually involved with adults while you're young, which is why its illegal. I know I'm probably being to realistic, but in the real world..this would need to really be addressed. Hayato has to live and be around this guy everyday so its hard to get space from the situation or move on...its just not a good situation... I mean, its not like they can live separately and Yuuji needs to help take care of Hayato and the little sister. I'm being ridiculous but this manga gets my mind racing! （/TДT)/
I agree. I have no problem if Hayato's love is onesided, and Yuuji acts as a proper guardian.. and then maybe once he's a legal adult something starts blossoming. That might be okay. But the way things are going, it doesn't seem realistic at all and has the potential to be pretty damaging to both parties involved... If Yuuji starts developing romantic feelings I am so done with this, cause that's crossing a lot of lines...
I'm curious to see how the author handles all of this. Its just kind of conflicting for me because looking at them bonding while Hayato was even younger, it was really sweet and I loved the platonic love there and their relationship dynamic of a person taking care of and loving the child of the person they loved, even though it was never reciprocated and they had a kid with somebody else, like their own. That to me is really sweet...I wanna read a sweet story like that...
Same, but then this manga wouldn't really exist since that wasn't the aim since the beginning.. but for real, the BL aspect feels so contrived and just plain uncomfortable.
I completely agree with you. I really don't want the uncle and the kid of end up in any sort of romantic relationship together. It feels off. I agree with the uncle not being able to put his foot down. I'm hoping that this manga turns out to be a mature lesson kind of story, and they focus on the reality of the situation and the kid matures and they both are able to sort it out and move on.
On the other hand I'm definitely shipping the brother and the friend 100%
WHY DOES THIS EXIST
WHY DO I KEEP READING IT Σ(っ°Д °;)っ
....I'm worried for my future lol
This is the real question for us all.
╮(￣▽￣) well a least were not alone lol
It's good to now that there are soe ppl out there asking themselves the same question, without stopping watching. haha
Lol ik I'm guilty as charged ╮(￣▽￣)╭
hahahaha well i just discovered me too! haha
Lol he won't "buy" a woman because he has a crush...no other reason? Like...it being illegal, you being an ex cop, it being...not cool....
yeah but I know he's playing, it seemed more like they were flirting but, still lol
your comment made me laugh a bit xD he's a yakuza, which means he does illegal business, and often yakuza groups are having their brothels. which means they earn from prostitution.
i don't think prostitution is illegal in japan
but he's our doumeki, he doesn't need anyone besides yashiro :D
I mean yeah he's yakuza now but he used to be a cop. Also, he literally went impotent over the fact of his sister being rape and the sex with women in brothels...isn't really consensual since they're being coerced... I mean, it just seems like his character would be somebody who isn't really into that kind of thing since his dick went limp over it lol
But I get its just supposed to be a silly side comment, I just found it ironic
It's illegal in Japan, just narrowly defined and often ignored. :)
Honesty....I like when Harada stories get happy endings....but too many people that crossed lines that should not have been crossed and did such....such messed up things, actual..torture, keep having things work out/get to be happy and....THEY NEED TO SUFFER MORE
I don't know...I'm feeling conflicted. I'll accept the story for what it is but these people severely abused a child and still have abuser tendencies so...it just doesn't feel right at all.
100% Agree.
I might be petty but, before forgiveness should come repentance, RIGHT?
Tbh though...
I WOULD NEVER FORGIVE HIS MOTHER. NEVER.
Right!! You can't be forgiven after the most "repentance" you've had is feeling a little guilty. And I don't know if they even felt that! Idc if its petty. I think Momo could still be perfectly happy telling them both to go fuck themselves and then never contacting them again. I'm so over this mentality of forgiving people so YOU can feel settled in move on. People act like if you don't do that you won't know peace and be able to move on, but thats really not true. If somebody crosses the line you don't have to plot revenge or anything crazy to make them suffer too, but telling them you don't and can't ever forgive them for what they've done and then that you don't want them in your life isn't a bad thing. Some people should not be forgiven and should be completely cut off. You can still be happy that way. You don't have to forgive people who hurt you, you just have to move on from them. I really hope Momo's mom doesn't get that ring. She doesn't deserve to be able to use it to give her peace of mind.
I highly doubt she even feels that bad. Maybe a little guilty now and again but she has her life together currently and is happy in all other aspects of her life now. You don't get to abuse and abandon your child until you get your shit together and then ask them to forgive you so you can continue to do nothing for them, bury your mistakes, and move on. She even admitted she didn't go there to apologize...she just wants peace of mind without actually doing anything to deserve it. I forgive no abusers in this story!
I get what you're saying as far as the horrible characters not getting their comeuppance and I wish they would too but you could argue that it's more realistic this way. Unfortunately far more abusers get away with their abuse or at least go YEARS before they receive any type of punishment. But yes I REALLY want his mom to suffer for what she did to him, THERE IS NO EXCUSE for her behavior.
No, I know. This is how the world usually works. Both sides have to move on for their own good and justice is rare. That's what I was thinking about as I wrote my original post...but dammit, this is fiction! STRING EM UP
All jokes aside though, I do value realism in stories and understand why it is going to be the way it is, but still at the very least would love to see them get told off. I'm not holding out for that to happen....but it would be a plus.
Add Suda-san to the list! Too many people here adore him, never mind the fact that he also pimped Momo (who was underage at the time)
Yeah...some of these people are crazy...I don't understand why people are like this in the bl fandom. Like, all they care about is sex and appearances and tropes, not the actual narrative or any form of story telling. It gets really annoying. A lot of these girls fetishize gay relationships instead of seeing them as actual characters. Like...how can you be into a guy that abused, raped, dominated, and controlled a child...I guess you can say you think he is attractive appearance wise...but I can't see a child abuser that way. Idk if he now is happy with his wife and child and wants the best for his kid. He's still a child abuser, he shouldn't be able to raise that kid other than handing over child support.
Agreed!
Well, I agree with you about wanting to seeing the mom show actual regret and attempts to make amends (rather than just make herself feel better). I don't think will get that, but I would like to see it, even if it only happens in fiction. But I would be surprised if Harada is the one who gives us that kind of story.
Still, at least Momo is happy now.
Okay, I have to re-read but are you sure that Suda pimped Momo out? I thought Suda just took teen (though underage) homeless Momo in as a pet. I thought the mom pimped Momo out from a much younger age. That doesn't make Suda a good guy or anything, but he wasn't the one who started pimping out Momo.
I agree with you that that there are to many crossed lines. That kid looks like Momo. The mother reminds me of Momo's mother and Sudo ? well the mother asked Yata if he(yata) was his new toy?. I don't know abt. happy? may be Momo is right Sudo just did not want to be alone? I don't know.
The story is still on going,Sudo did say to Yata in around abt, way it's a good thing you are in Momo's life. So maybe the lines will be less crossed in the coming chapters.I find it interesting Momo did not retrieve the ring himself, Yata had to do it.Maybe those lines will be snapped(just hoping).
So....why did the father cheat? They make him out to be a kind and gentle man so why would he do that? Was he unhappy with the wife but didn't want a divorce for the kids sake? Because...thats just stupid. Having parents with a messed up and dishonest relationship like that never works out and makes the household a worse environment to live in rather than having two households where both parents can move and and be happy and find people they love. What the mom is doing is wrong, you can't ever blame the child, but I will admit that it would be so so hard to accept that you were not only cheated on by the person you loved but that they had a child with somebody else. It would be hard not to have negative feelings that surface just due to the kid's existence, but if that is the case you need to make sure the kid goes to a home where they will be cared for and not have your negative attention. That is the only right thing to do if you know you won't be able to accept the child.
But because she never got resolution due the her husband's death I guess she is taking it out on the kid since he's the only person to direct those emotions to. So wrong and so sad...
Did he cheat? I don't think the truths been mentioned yet? The brother is older than the girls so it's possible he had him before he got with the mother, maybe?
Nothing has been clearly established. I want to know ages. If the boy is the eldest, than it could well be the mom "stole" the guy away from the other woman in some way. She seems spoiled (notice it was the husband who cooked and she is now neglecting her own kids). We don't really know what the heck was going on.
I feel so silly! I didn't even think about how he was older! But they could've been married for a while before having kids, thats how it works most of the time. So I guess he would have been cheating early on. But yeah, she does seem like a selfish person so I guess we'll find out.
Uh, next chapter???? Where are you??? YOU DON'T JUST END IT WHEN WE FINALLY MAKE SOME PROGRESS!!
On the official english lezhin website, there are 20 chapters currently available, it updates every sunday, i'll try my very best to get them posted ASAP ;)
Thank you, kind soul. （/TДT)/
Haha I was just joking, but thank you!
With him being a writer and his depression, I feel like...the whole thing may be fabricated. Like, the phone shouldn't have worked, remember? So, what if he's just imagining it all and having these fake conversations with himself. That would be sad...but it would make sense as a coping mechanism since he seems to have known before hand that the house he's in now was the other boy's.
I think you are just reading too much into this. It's tagged on Lezhin as sci-fi story so I think it's the way it's represented here
Me after reading this chapter: Nice. I am happy. This is going well.
Me after reading your comment: ...
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fUCK
This actually makes sense but it makes me sad so I'm hoping it is not what you said.
If it didn't have the sci-fi tag I'd be more worried, considering the depth some of the other Lezhin BLs have gone into (Moritat for example, jesus fuck).
That should be a movie!
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Got some info on the office dude from the scanalator's tumblr page if you wanna know a little bit more about him/ find out if he's sketchy or not so...heres your official spoiler warning!
He's isn't a total creep. He doesn't have any weird ulterior motives or anything. He thinks Subin is good looking/ or he has a nice face or something but he is a little turned off by his personality (lmao I mean, Subin is kind of a little shit) then I think around ch 15 Subin asks him if he actually likes him and he tells him he isn't really sure.....And one last tid bit...the translator says office dude is a 3rd wheel so....ლ(´ڡ`ლ)
o thank goodness that he isn't a total creep. but i just want to ask, why do you know about that? have you read the other chapters? is there a chance that hyunwoo may like subin at all? =)
I just visited the webpage of the people who translate the manhwa and just read through it a bit. At the beginning of every chapter of every scanned english manga you find, the people who translate and clean and make the chapters into english have a page that credits them and usually lists the name of their group or website. Its really helpful to go visit their pages because since this site just rips the translations off of other sites you can actually interact with the people who translate it. They often post extra stuff about the manga and talk about stuff and answer fans questions. And yes, from what somebody on the site says, it seems like the office guy is a third wheel and the main couple is insinuated to be Subin and Hyunwoo. Though, I could be wrong.
Could you also share the link of their webpage? I also want to see their pages (I'M ALWAYS THANKFUL TO TRANSLATORS FOR THEIR EFFORTS IN BRINGING US TRANSLATED CHAPTERS ^^)
Also, did they say anything about Hyunwoo being jealous of the office guy because of subin? =)
You can just google their name, their tumblr page will show up. Their name is on the credit page of every chapter. But I don't really remember anything else they said, I just read through a couple of their asks.
https://ricepunch.tumblr.com