The relationship between the emperor and his brother was so fucking gross, zero purpose for making them a cp. in the end, I ended up becoming team villain. Gumo deserved better, but I also need some holy water for always siding with the villains…
This is just annoying. They don’t communicate, everything is internal dialogues, so dramatic. And ML ain’t worth shit, he’s her biggest opp. She was pretty much brought & trained to be his slave, and obviously she isn’t going to snap out of this sick twisted mentality, because they’re still trying to convince us that this nightmare is somehow the epitome of romance.
This author/proaganda machine behind this webtoon is very patriarchal, and that reflects in their characterisation of the cast. The males are awfully predictably egoistical and unfeeling, whereas the females are meek and boy crazy. Remove the romance tag, this is a woman’s horror.
Morale of the story is that bottom is a hypocritical, cheating, ungrateful little hoe who doesn’t deserve his perfect boyfriend, and the ml is even more hypocritical. together they make a disgustingly pretentious pair that stink up the place from a mile away, just gross.
Their plot armour is insane, whole time they were the true villains getting in the way of justice being served.
The only good char in this whole shit fest was the boyfriend who was made out to be the villain, when he rly wasn’t, all of his actions were justified, only to be taken for granted and betrayed by the hoe.
I can’t stand female chars whose only personality trait is “eAtiNg yUmmY fOoD” so freaking cringe like ew are u a freaking toddler. It’s got to be rooted in some sort of food kink or pedophilia.
This webtoon is so cliche, predictable and boring. All the chars have one dimensional cardboard personalities too. Like there really isn’t much to look forward to in each new chapter. It doesn’t ignite any worthwhile feelings within me.
MC being a cringe fest is rly the worst part of all because I’d always manage to pull through if the most important char is at the very least compelling.
It’s not a horrible webtoon, but it’s probably something that kids would enjoy, rather than an adult brain unless ur rly out of material to read. And overall this author is really not it, dropped ch.23
They’re set up to make sense tgr, but I just don’t feel any chemistry. It feels soulless
I wouldn’t want MC as my lawyer dawg. He would incriminate me instead
exactly what im thinking abt when i see how he handle his client lmaoo this line of work doesnt suit him at all
I know MC has been picked apart and conditioned ever since he was just a kid, but at times I get rly frustrated and just want him to run away. He’d have enough money for a ticket to Thailand. But he doesn’t know any better which is sad
As much of a scumbag as the ML is, the other chars are so much worse, that in comparison, he’s borderline mc’s saviour from his current situation. Otherwise his future would’ve looked a lot grimmer. I can already see MC landing himself in a lot of trouble due to his stubbornness and selective attitude for the ML.
He doesn’t have the kind of wits to make good use of an opportunity, which he isn’t to be blamed for, but once again, it will make the ride frustrating
They’re very cliche and predictable chars, with a more witty personality, things could’ve been a lot more interesting
The story wanted to portray the MC as a tragic victim taking revenge on a groveling scummy ML, but the execution totally backfired. Instead the ML is the true victim, while the MC is an infuriating, self-sabotaging mess. Honestly it’s almost entirely him hurting himself.
Time and again, MC recklessly attempt to either kill or rebel against ML without power, leverage, or strategy, repeating the same doomed cycle.
His actions aren’t just futile, they endanger everyone around him. If he truly cared about his people, why does he keep making the same mindless mistakes?
Most of it stemmed from his crushed sense of pride, but c’mon, he couldn’t even deal with that much for his ppl?
ML shockingly has been more than forgiving, sparing both him and his allies despite repeated betrayals. He even cleans up after MC so to keep him safe from his crimes. This wasn’t even a usurper who seized the throne through bloodshed, it was a fair conquest. Yet the MC’s resentment is so irrational it borders on stupidity.
In the end, his poor judgment gets his brother and allies killed. And their deaths weren’t even the ML’s doing. The blame falls all on the MC. How did someone with such poor judgement ever rule an empire? All the tragedies could’ve been avoided if he weren’t so senseless. He could have had it all, but he threw it all away.
Honestly, my sympathy lies with the ML. His entire world revolved around the MC, and every choice he made was tied to him. He started out on a bad note by forcing the MC against his will and making him his queen, but given the era, an emperor claiming someone wasn’t even considered immoral.
Unlike typical toxic MLs, he never abused the MC, if anything he literally worshipped him as if he were a deity. Even in the end, he kept his promise and protected the empire. That’s what makes it so tragic, he gave everything yet he was never enough for the MC.
I was take aback when they finally faced real consequences, with no plot armor to save them. Turns out the author just wanted to wrap up that timeline to send them back in time. All so the ML could suffer twice over for no reason sike.
By the end, it didn’t even feel like the MC truly loved him, just that he gave in because the ML refused to let go. The author made both the ML and Yun so obsessively devoted to the MC that it stopped making sense. Poor Yun got it worst, he died for the MC in both timelines.
This manhua didn’t give me enough reason to side with MC, ML is lowkey the protagonist here
Reading this feels like I’m trapped in a genjutsu. Because truth is, ML is utter scum and hasn’t changed one bit—he’s simply holding back due to lived experience.
FL only has partial memorises, therefore she’s getting scammed in this relationship due to not remembering the full extent of his cruelty towards her.
On the surface they’re this shippable power couple, but beneath the facade lies the uncomfortable truth.
What I can say about the current FL, is that she’s a natural white lotus, she’s very cool. And that goes for all the other women by her side, they’re all so cool. Her family are the biggest victims in all of this, they’ve to bear the burnt of her terrible decisions, yes including her terrible man.
ML should’ve been throughly tortured before being granted a chance at redoing life. And I bet the other scum version of himself will make a comeback later down the line to further taunt FL.
The people trying to equate her obsession with him in the second world to his actions have lost it. These two things are incomparable.
Well in the current world didn’t she also kill all his siblings and like multiple people to “put him on top”?? Like she is just him form the first world, even the manga says that the second world is just the opposite of the first.
In the first world the ML becomes obsessed with the FL, uses his power and status to marry her, and kills the people around her under the guise of “loving her”.
In the second world the FL becomes obsessed with the ML, uses her power and status to marry him, and kills the people around him under the guise of “loving him”.
Him treating her shitty in the second world is the same as her treating him shitty in the first, the difference is it doesn’t seem as bad when you see an obsessive ML being punished for being obsessive compared to an obsessive FL being punished for being obsessive.
The difference is that she gained nothing from him killing her relatives, and since she deeply loved them, it left her emotionally scarred for life.
His situation however is completely different, those killed were not just his brothers but also his political enemies. What she did was more or less normalised in a battle for succession, her actions secured him a position of power far beyond hers, whereas he trapped her in a room like a caged bird. Moreover, he never seemed particularly close to his family to begin with.
She also never cheated on him. This man slept around left and right.
In both lives, she was the more miserable one.
Looking beyond just the kill count, the emotional impact and circumstances make it impossible to treat these two situations as the same.
You’re forgetting to mention the fact that he didn’t want to become king in this life, yeah it’s natural for siblings to kill eachother for the throne but he didn’t want it nor was he qualified to be in that position.
To him she literally just killed all of his siblings, it doesn’t matter whether or not that decision put him on top when he didn’t want to be on top in the first place.
Also bringing up the fact that he’s cheating in this life as an example of him being shitty just isn’t fair when he doesn’t want to be with her, he’s cheating because he feels trapped in a relationship and position that he doesn’t want to be in so now all he can do to get back at her IS cheat.
I don’t even know if I can say she’s the most miserable in both lives, she’s just the one who’s easier to sympathize with, especially since in the world where she’s the obsessed one we’re following her POV after she’s already done all the crazy shit and we kinda just have to hear about it. In the other world we saw her reaction to the crazy stuff he did in that world, in this one we don’t get to see his reaction to the crazy stuff she did.
Honestly (sorry for the long reply again lol), I think it’s just a power difference. You don’t think she would also try and lock him in this world if she had the power to? Or that if she had gotten pregnant by him in the first world that she would try to kill their baby the same way he tried to kill it in this world?
I’ll never understand the appeal of characters like MC. He’s got a vile nasty mouth, is always violent, and acts before he thinks. These are all super unattractive attributes, his good qualities are out weighted by the bad ones, making him an unbalanced romance protagonist.
He’s just purely annoying, it’s fucking tiring
It would’ve been easier to ignore if it was done in moderation, but it’s his entire personality, massively overdone. The way he acts isn’t cute one bit.
The rest of the plot is fine, definitely very overhyped
is this your first time seeing a dynamic like this?
Can’t stand a different opinion I see, go to bed.
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he has trauma, i think the story was pretty clear about how that's his coping mechanism ????? he literally self-sabotages himself with that personality, because he doesn't want anyone to get close enough to hurt him. his parents were shit to him, and when he thought his best friend had his back, he found put that they didn't actually care about him.
ofc you're allowed to not like a character because of that behavior, but you're completely ignoring the nuance ? or at the very least based off of how you wrote your comment. Heejae isn't completely faultless either, he constantly pushes Seyeong's boundaries despite numerous verbal and physical rejections. at the core of their characters, Seyeong is an extremely vulnerable and emotional person who is selfless but acts selfishly. Heejae on the other hand is also a vulnerable and emotional person, who also has emotional scars just like Seyeong, but he is a selfish person who acts selflessly. neither of which are a bad thing.
i love both characters a lot, so it hurts to see people dismiss one completely, especially one i empathize with and see my friends in. hopefully you don't dismiss this as another "can't stand a different opinion" thing, because i can; as long as it is made with the proper knowledge and nuance and not just off of vibes.
Such a good response. Love it.
Response so good imma follow you
This is so true. Thanku for being able to put them into words perfectly TT both of these characters mean a lot to me so seeing people dismiss them is hurtful
I was genuinely asking a fucking question. i was going to explain to you why the hell the other guy was being "abusive" no need to be such a bitch about it.