Ggmazes April 30, 2021 3:37 am

That is very critical of characters, especially MLs, I'd like to throw my two cents into this argument.
All parties are at fault.
MC isn't an angel. She forced the Duke to marry her. Forced him to have to have sex with her to continue his family line (skirting the line of rape, imo). And refused to even touch her child.
The last one I give more of a pass to. Postpartum depression is REAL and with all of her childhood trauma, it made it even harder for her. But the other two are also REAL.
The way I see it, if the roles were reversed and the ML was the one who forced the MC into a marriage and forced her to have a baby, I'd be disgusted, so it should be the same in this case, too.

    danii April 30, 2021 12:36 pm

    bro ur literally talking bs she didn’t force him to marry her ????? women in western high society did not have that power unless their father adored them (only high standing families) and she didn’t r@pe him it’s actually the women that are forced to get pregnant as soon as possible to produce a heir for the family. they literally explained why she ‘didn’t’ couldn’t touch him was because she was afraid she would ‘curse’ him after years of being abused and neglected by her father and brother ?! who made her the villain of her mother tragic death are you surprised she was made to believe that everything she touches will die or be destroyed ??? don’t pretend that every isekai/historical webtoon doesn’t make the mc get together w her abusive ml with a higher standing in society hiding behind the ‘he loves her’ and ‘he didn’t know better’ or some stupid third party was involved that ‘made him do it’ please spare me this shit take...

    bro April 30, 2021 1:04 pm
    bro ur literally talking bs she didn’t force him to marry her ????? women in western high society did not have that power unless their father adored them (only high standing families) and she didn’t r@pe hi... danii

    ISTG IF THE AUTHOR PULLS ANOTHER "HE ACTUALLY LOVED HER" "HE DIDNT KNOW HOW TO EXPRESS IT" OR THAT HE HAD NO CHOICE OR SOME BULLSHIT I WILL PERSONALLY RIOT. THAT IS SO CLICHEEE FOR FUCKS SAKE I HATE HIM I HATE HIM I HATE HIM I HATE HIM AND I WANT TO CONTINUE HATING HIM

    Ggmazes April 30, 2021 7:17 pm
    bro ur literally talking bs she didn’t force him to marry her ????? women in western high society did not have that power unless their father adored them (only high standing families) and she didn’t r@pe hi... danii

    Hahahaha, she DID force him to marry her. It says it multiple times. The second scene where she goes to visit her father and he slaps her and tells her 'didnt I tell you to stay out of my sight' but she doesn't leave? And then he tells her 'fine' and she thanks him?? That was where she begged her father to engage her to the ML.
    She even says later that she knew he was already engaged to someone else, but that she wanted him so much, she didn't care.

    Ggmazes April 30, 2021 7:22 pm
    bro ur literally talking bs she didn’t force him to marry her ????? women in western high society did not have that power unless their father adored them (only high standing families) and she didn’t r@pe hi... danii

    Also, I did say that her not touching the baby was more of a pass, because of her trauma.
    But for the sake of the baby, it was right for the ML to have him taken of by someone else. She was literally just letting the baby cry in his crib and not doing anything for him.
    The ML didn't know her behavior was due to her trauma, he was just looking out for his son.

    Pacgirl April 30, 2021 8:38 pm

    Do you guys want spoilers?









    If I remember correctly, both loved each other. But the ML was very influenced by the introductions of the evil father. The ML was told to act heartless to the MC. I can try to go more into it if any of you want me too.

    Ggmazes April 30, 2021 8:50 pm
    Do you guys want spoilers? If I remember correctly, both loved each other. But the ML was very influenced by the introductions of the evil father. The ML was told to act heartless to the MC. I can try to go mor... Pacgirl

    I would LOVE spoilers.
    But also, I would LOVE confirmation that the MC had her father arrange a marriage between her and the ML, even while KNOWING he was already engaged.

    Pacgirl April 30, 2021 8:58 pm
    I would LOVE spoilers.But also, I would LOVE confirmation that the MC had her father arrange a marriage between her and the ML, even while KNOWING he was already engaged. Ggmazes

    So the ML was offered marriage. He was married to his black haired fiancé, but the black hair fiancé had a lower status than the MC. So getting married to the MC was more beneficial to him. Which is why he accepted the request or get married and divorced his past wife. Really he had all the right to refuse.

    Ggmazes April 30, 2021 9:33 pm
    So the ML was offered marriage. He was married to his black haired fiancé, but the black hair fiancé had a lower status than the MC. So getting married to the MC was more beneficial to him. Which is why he ac... Pacgirl

    But from her point of view (and the rest of society's) since she didn't know that he actually loved her, she thought that she stole him from his fiance. Right?

    Pacgirl April 30, 2021 9:36 pm
    But from her point of view (and the rest of society's) since she didn't know that he actually loved her, she thought that she stole him from his fiance. Right? Ggmazes

    Yeah that’s pretty much it. It’s really just a misunderstanding between them. Anyone can think how they want of the two though. I have my own opinions, but I’ll avoid saying them right now. XD
    Also the only reason the black haired ex came back was due to the evil fathers schemes. It wasn’t done by the ML, pretty much the ML was clueless to what was really happening, and by the time he figured out the MC already died.

    danii May 2, 2021 1:24 am
    Do you guys want spoilers? If I remember correctly, both loved each other. But the ML was very influenced by the introductions of the evil father. The ML was told to act heartless to the MC. I can try to go mor... Pacgirl

    that’s even worse like istg they always pull this bs they write the ml as an abusive piece of shit and then the author pulls a ‘GUYSS HES NOT BAD ☹‘ it’s like the abandon empress all over again

    bro May 2, 2021 2:03 am
    that’s even worse like istg they always pull this bs they write the ml as an abusive piece of shit and then the author pulls a ‘GUYSS HES NOT BAD ☹‘ it’s like the abandon empress all over again danii

    frr

Ggmazes April 20, 2021 6:25 pm

What manhwa is chapter 84??
It looks interesting.

    Glass April 20, 2021 6:46 pm

    Fff-trashero the main character basically gets trapped in a loop of trying to slay the demon king which will give him grades in different subjects. If he fails a subject, he must try again. And because of this his personality becomes warped and it’s hilarious ε=ε=(ノ≧∇≦)ノ

    Blackwidow66 April 20, 2021 6:48 pm

    Lemme stay here so I can know when somebody answer... Hi btw

    Ggmazes April 20, 2021 7:14 pm
    Fff-trashero the main character basically gets trapped in a loop of trying to slay the demon king which will give him grades in different subjects. If he fails a subject, he must try again. And because of this ... Glass

    Thank you! I look forward to reading it.

    Ggmazes April 20, 2021 7:15 pm
    Lemme stay here so I can know when somebody answer... Hi btw Blackwidow66

    http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/fff_class_trashero/
    Theres the link, and hi back, lol

    Blackwidow66 April 20, 2021 8:11 pm
    http://www.mangago.me/read-manga/fff_class_trashero/Theres the link, and hi back, lol Ggmazes

    Thx!!! Much appreciated

Ggmazes April 4, 2021 9:19 am

I know we're supposed to dislike Reynold... and I do, I really do... but his face. He's so pretty. I'd definitely choose him... but also I'd keep him in a dungeon? And completely f!cking BREAK his spirit. He'd be more enjoyable then. Idk. I'm high.

Ggmazes February 25, 2021 10:09 am

Those maids were in the room with his parents...
The things they must have seen in their career.

Ggmazes February 23, 2021 5:46 am

Can anyone describe his hair color?? Like, it's not computing in my head what color I'm seeing for his hair?? I get its light, but not blonde really.

    kita February 23, 2021 8:43 am

    it's platinum blonde!

    Abich February 23, 2021 11:18 am
    it's platinum blonde! kita

    Blue premium bond... AHHHHHH

    Sorry(● ̄(エ) ̄●)

    Ggmazes February 23, 2021 6:55 pm

    I mean the color, not what the hair color name is. Like the color it would be if it wasn't hair, if that makes sense?

Ggmazes January 24, 2021 8:49 pm

This Mangaka either makes super sweet stories or super dark stories. She has no in between.

Ggmazes January 5, 2021 12:34 am

There's no way she didn't get RAILED.

Ggmazes December 31, 2020 11:08 am

This is just fueling my theory of 'transmigrated person falling in love with their original body's sibling' thought.
I know it's not gonna happen, obviously the prince is the ML, but COME ON, her brothers are way too into her.

    jeany December 31, 2020 11:51 am

    what prince is ml but i ship her with blonde brother nooooooooooooo ┗( T﹏T )┛

    FallenTree196 December 31, 2020 1:13 pm
    what prince is ml but i ship her with blonde brother nooooooooooooo ┗( T﹏T )┛ jeany

    the ultimate incest. but, do you read 'beware of the brothers'?

    Minnie December 31, 2020 1:16 pm
    the ultimate incest. but, do you read 'beware of the brothers'? FallenTree196

    THAT CURSED MF MANHWA I HAD HIGH HOPES FOR THAT MANHWA WITH CUTE BLUE HAIRED GUY BEING ML ONLY FOR IT TO BE THE BROTHER GODDAMIT

    jeany December 31, 2020 2:04 pm
    the ultimate incest. but, do you read 'beware of the brothers'? FallenTree196

    yeah i read that manhwa and i ship those siblings......(≧∀≦)

    FallenTree196 December 31, 2020 5:50 pm
    THAT CURSED MF MANHWA I HAD HIGH HOPES FOR THAT MANHWA WITH CUTE BLUE HAIRED GUY BEING ML ONLY FOR IT TO BE THE BROTHER GODDAMIT Minnie

    Yes, you're not the only one, I was also dissapopinted to the point of dropping it, I really wanted Hari to end up with Johan, but then ends up with mf Eugene.

    Ggmazes December 31, 2020 10:22 pm

    I mean, technically they aren't related and they spent so much time apart, I don't think it counts. But I do love the story, it's definitely one of my favorites by far.

Ggmazes December 29, 2020 1:44 pm

And it was going so well until the unwarranted touching, insane jealousy, sexual pressuring, and refusal to let the uke top, ruined everything.

    Loulyss December 29, 2020 3:17 pm

    Lol, did we read the same thing?

    Ggmazes December 30, 2020 3:03 pm

    We did. But I'd understand if you think differently because you've been desensitized to such toxicity due to it being in so much yaoi.

    Loulyss December 30, 2020 6:30 pm

    Well, will you naturally assume that the only reason I may think differently is because I have been 'desensitizes' (your words), by over-reading yaois, and not because, maybe, I do have different opinions and a whole set of other interpretations as I am an other human being able of complex and intricate reflections?

    Would you be willing to be open minded about it, or is your perspective the true one and I am automatically in the wrong?

Ggmazes December 24, 2020 9:34 am

Is NO ONE gonna talk about the fact that her parents came to her wedding ONLY BECAUSE They think the ML marrying her was 'finally making her an honest woman'?? I literally GAGGED at that part.

    H1th3r3 December 24, 2020 3:02 pm

    The only thing he made out of her was a teen mother a foolish pushover woman.

    Comadrin December 25, 2020 2:03 am

    Her parents should die painfully while holding the same patriarchal "values" crap that makes the ML look like the epitome of success incarnate to the ignorami. When the FL thinks to herself about how cruel he is, while he's smirking and making very bad taste sexist remarks, and then realizes how much she loves him, I thought that she should fall over dead from lack of brain activity. All of the so-called adults in this manga are as disgusting as a fecal pile on the appetizer table.

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