She's like a reincarnation of Rashta and Diana from the other manhua. It makes my blood boil
I'm sorry, but I'l always be a rashta apologist, pls dont compare her to this delulu
Im in enemy territory
(I would argue they are one of the same just different circumstances)
No bc while I can't agree that Rashta may have been very delulu, the sins of the men in the story are often put onto her (yh she does some bad stuff, but the fact that she's the mistress almost always overshadows this in almost every discourse about her).... also girl was literally a slave, the girl here is in a position of power. She's no slave, she's living a cushy life where she gets to decide the life and death of ppl and gains worship from that
Just a healthy discourse.
Trashta wasn't doing all these crazy things while she was a slave she couldn't. She didn't have the position of power until she became a mistress. Thats when her rain of terror started. And thats the similarity I'm making towards her and this girl (i dont remember her name).
1. When we are talking about trashta and her misdeeds were are not talking about her the slave but her the mistress. Both in position of power/control/influence. Also remember this new girl isnt a noble her dad is a priest so its not like she was living the most lavish lifestyle. She only started gaining more favor when she started doing exorcism.
2. Trashtas past does not negate her from her misdeeds. We an empathize but her being a slave/mistress and living a life of trauma does not give her a pass at being a terrible person. This act of terror would never fly irl. Just because someone hurt sammy really badly doesn't mean Sammy has the right to go end or gravely injure others around them. Sammy, could do whatever he wants by all means but now he will have to suffer the penalties of doing so.
Her mistress title did not over shadow anything other than her brain cells. In fact her being a mistress gave her alot of new opportunities however she started getting greedy and started coveting what she didn't work for and was never hers. It would be one thing if Navier made her feel threatened but that was not the case despite everything. Trashta with her own two hands and feet dug her grave.
But the point I'm making is both these ladies know deep down that what they are doing is wrong however, the shame/guilt and under whatever circumstances their ego/people/environment continues to influence them to misbehave and at the end of the day that is on them.
3. Lastly you say this girl was no slave and live a cushy life seeking worship. While that is true, it is also true that she is just the flip side/coin to trashta.
They both had a problem which they wanted to fix (save the ppl on the island/someone to not take advantage of her and love her). They both started getting overly egotistical with the position of power (believed she had some supernatural powers which ruled over ppl life n death /believes she was now in a higher position so no should be looking down on her or she would try to get rid of them). They both had terrible yes men around them and awful parental figures. And lastly, they both at some point noticed that what they was doing was wrong but scared of the repercussions they chose to remain delusional.
Take away the slave title from trashta and what are we left with? A young girl with awful parental figures, who had a problem, got into a position of power felt egotistical, did bad things, gets scared when called out and retaliates. Sounds awfully like this new girl.
I hope this makes some sense ╥﹏╥. And just to add I dont hate Rashta, the author tried their damn hardest to persuade the readers not to. But I am not her safe space either, both she and shitsu its on sight at all times.ヾ(❀╹◡╹)ﾉ~
Agree 100% on this. Rashta is the epitome of victim mentality and trauma blaming for the things she herself did wrong.
Can I make a selfish request? Can you save/free Vintner's soul? This episode broke me so much
Nuh uh, she needs to save herself
This manga/anime was I buried deep in my heart long ago. No longer re watching or re reading it again to avoid feeling this painful void inside of me.
I came across the update that is being continued and will end for good. That he will actually pass away this time.
I can't bring myself to accept this ending. Although with everything that had happened to them I don't think there was any other way to have an alternative ending to this. But... this is to painful for Kaname Sama. It is so sad. The world moved on and was unable to be there/protect his loved ones in time of need. Was not able to hold Ai's tiny hands and watch her grow. He was actually forgotten by the world and the sacrifice he did. Only a few actually holds the torch for the true meaning of his sacrifice. His friends/servants turning to ash one by one, missing the most wonderful or sorrowful moments in their lives, again unable to do anything. When he gets to finally bask in the sunlight being human his love of his life was not there forgetting her, carrying an unexplainable heartache towards the mystery woman. Then when finally they can meet again they were not able to share or catch up since she turned to an infant. They died together in each other's arm and turned to dust. They were not able to properly bond even just for a few moments as a family.
This is so cruel. With only just a few chapters away from the ending I am having palpitations, my hands are shaking, and I can't barely breathe. It's to painful to watch Kaname Sama's end.
I must say that the dialogue between Yuki and Kaname is really touching. It shows how much they missed each other and Yuki’s first and last word was “Kaname”. In the same way that happened in the main story too.
They did not die together
Only kaname died and Yuki just turned into a baby it shows in last panel that the ai is taking care of Yuki and she is playing with a car toy
It just shows kaname turned into ash on chair
It was fcking stupid
I understand now why author are anonymous
I seriously think people want to Harras her
Only kaname didn't get his happy ending
There was many other way to finish this story
You didn’t understand the ending and on top of it you’re spreading misinformation XD The baby’s hand you’re seeing it’s not Yuki’s.
Explanation:
Kaname went to Yuki, who was sleeping underground. He went to that place and felt her presence, and that’s why he cried. He knew she was still there. In chapter 48/49
Touma needed blood and had started to decay. Some of the blood floated, Kaname touched his blood, and it entered his body. this awakened part of his vampire power, and that’s how he was able to give his heart with such strength.
When Kaname gave his heart , she was reborn, but the heart wasn’t strong enough to keep her as she was, and she turned into a baby.
Kaname became without a heart, and Yuki became weak with a human heart. That’s what led to their death. They turned to dust. They’re not real humans. That’s why their death was like any vampire.
They died together. It just took its time.
I felt the pain he endured. Man I would have passed out if someone where to twist my bone little by little not in a snap. I feel squeamish with the last chapter.
To those familiar with Killing Stalking... Both ML of KS and Jinx are red flag no question. Why do I feel at times we like this character is more loved than the other and vice versa?
Just an honest question/curiousity of what others think.
Haha only a few days ago, I was talking to someone on here @jax about farcical BL comparisons and gave this one as of the examples. People here are way too casual about thoughtlessly putting everything under shallow labels, no matter what the nuances.
could you tell me Jaekyung's nuances?pls
Are there many? His character is pretty tropey, typical big bodied and big dick arrogant seme who manipulates the uke for his objectives. The uke is a hollow husk of a person whose character revolves around the seme. Jinx has a pretty shallow character study. I don't think the writer wrote the story to actually have impactful characters. The major plot points and narrative progression are mostly the same as her earlier work and many other typical BL manhwas, very predictable. It was written to bank on popular tropes and smut. Its not much deeper than that.
Jinx ML is a red flag he’s a dick, but The ML in killing stalking is literally a serial killer so that’s why he’s so much worse.
Koogi didn't write Sangwoo's character for readers to attach value judgment to him. It's pretty obvious his character is not supposed to be romanticised or inspirational or even relatable at a general level. The point of his character was to portray and examine a tortured character who was a product of an extremely violent and traumatizing past, he was written to explore the various faces of human darkness, a twisted subversion of emotions such as love and sympathy, depression, numbness, violence, a tortured psyche. Same goes for Bum. There is no comparison with Jinx's ML unless one prefers a surface level understanding.
i know there’s no comparison, I was replying to OP who was wondering why people like one more than the other.
Writers write to entice emotions and that emotion could be positive or negative, attaching value/judgment to character’s is part of the reading experience that character can be good, bad or ambiguous etc...
I said he’s a serial killer and that’s what he is and I will continue to judge him so hard because no amount of trauma justifies murder + he’s just a character lmao.
You say there's no comparison and yet you compare. Sangwoo being understood just as a serial killer and judged on just that would be considered shallow understanding. But like you said, you are happy with it and you will continue to do it. So fair I guess, you are entitled to your experiences.
When I saw the kid Hosu rescued on the elevator. She was using sign language so she was not able to let anyone know her situation even with all the emergency prompts available. Stuck there for five days along being as young as she is is so terrifying. I hate this this is so sad. That was a very cruel scene.
I am glad she was alive. I'm glad she held on
I know Diana's character is down the drain and thought it could not get any more worse. I f*cking person collapsed and you are celebrating and calling it divine retribution. I don't want your suffering anymore I just want you de*d have lightning strike you from the heaven you worship
Can someone stop picking up a fight with a f*ckin constellation right in front of you. For heaven's sake you are a mere incarnation. Does not mean you are a prophet means you are invincible.
Please do not piss off someone you are riding with you are not the only passenger dumb b*tch
Like fr they be doing the dumbest decision ever
My exact thought like r u dumb?? He's a constipation with Legendary status fabels, ur an idiot for pissing him off.
Their brain have a problem fr. He no longer a mere human nor just a strong incarnation. That a damn constellation. Just because he hides his status doesn't mean u can provoke him. Erghhhhh then act surprised when u know well his power!!
When she talked about Rye bread I got curious. I got confused what harm a bread can make. So did some research and I was surprised.
Ergot Poisoning:
In rare cases, rye can be contaminated with ergot, a fungus that produces toxic alkaloids. Consumption of ergot can lead to various neurological symptoms, including dizziness, headaches, and even psychosis.
Yeah! Ergot poisoning can get pretty bad and it's actually what kick started the witch trials especially in Salem. The girl wasn't possessed by a spirit she just had a fit and hallucination from ergot poisoning. So I definitely agree that this is likely to be ergot poisoning!