God: "Hey you, I see that you're serving me, but you should know you're destined to become a powerful mage."
ML: "I don't care. I love you!!"
God: "Okay bet, I'll give you special treatment. The power won’t compare to that of a mage, tho.
God: "and when you DO become a mage, because destiny means you WILL, I'll let my followers brand you so you can suffer for centuries."
ML: "Huh?"
God: "Too late, no takesies backsies. Teehee"
I dont think I have to dive into the symbolism behind the argument between Heart and Head, right? ....RIGHT?!
On another note, I can't believe it took me 14 chapters to realize Heart looks the way he does because he's a literal walking manifestation of Henry's heart. Literally. He's all patched up, broken and "ugly" looking because that's literally the condition Henry's heart was probably in (emotionally).
So, two dicks for Dick because crazy libido. A patched up body for Heart because patched up heart. Now Head... I've said it once and I'll say it again, he really fascinates me the most. Still not beating the psychopath allegations. Preserve the head because all Victor really loved was his beauty, possessing him etc etc. But the tentacle??? It's giving Victor low key saw him as a toy to play with (to a degree) similar to how Henry saw all of his fwb. This requires further analysis at a later date. But make no mistake, this manhwa has convinced me that everything has symbolism, including the tentacle dick.
Also, I'm gonna go out on a limb (heh) here and say that Heart wondering if he would love anyone Henry loved is def tied to Head initially going out in search of a "past lover"
The amount of ppl in these comments that lack reading comprehension. I know its been a while but this was explained in the beginning yall. She will ALWAYS die before the year is up, that's part of the curse. Keeping her locked up and away from harm did nothing, she just got sick and died.
I knew this was coming since the moment the baby prince died but it was still gut punching. Damn.
I'm soooo glad they went this route with the writing because I was literally thinking of this myself.
She chose him in a way, and by doing so, doomed him into this looped existence. Even if the loop isn't her fault, it makes perfect sense that she now feels responsible for him. She probably feels like she's ruined him in a sense. Heck, I'm surprised she's not questioning if his feelings for her are only due to the loop.
On another note, I hope this isn't their last life. This feels like a life of revenge and I could go on and on about how that doesnt need to be the final message. But honestly I just want the prince to be alive again
My dude, you have WALKING proof of his love for you.
Hi, I'm gonna dissect some more. Just a smidge, a bite, if you will.
Henry, as a child, picks up a test tube with a rat in it. Foreshadowing of the fact that he himself is a rat? One that will inevitably end up as another one of Viktor's tests.
Viktor says he loves Henry but he has only ever shown obsession and possessiveness, specifically revolving Henry's beauty. It is poetic then, that he would ask Head (the physical representation of Henry's beauty)if he loves him, when there is already walking proof of Henry having loved him, to some extent, in Heart.
I used to think Head was a representation of Henry's mind (his being a Psychopath), and I still think he is that, to some extent. But I now fully think Viktor only "saved" Henry's head, just because he wanted to preserve his beauty, more than his mind.
Tune in next week to this tired film student's analysis of what she thought was just a weird smut manhwa.
ALL ABOARD!
The "What The Fuck" train will be departing shortly.
So, I'm gonna try and dissect (hehe) this based on the meager information –including spoilers– we have.
Henry is a fuckboy and a cheater. He and Victor are very distant relatives. Victo's family died when he was young leaving him loaded. H and V know each other since childhood and have promised to be together forever since then because they're both weird and lonely. V did not kill H but did imply he would've done so if H tried to leave him.
Heart tells us that H did have feelings for V. Dick tells us that H was a Slut. Mind tells us that H was a psychopath.
So, Henry WAS attached to Victor, probably mostly due to close proximity since a young age. He's a psychopath tho and probably also saw Victor as pathetic. More than likely he just didn't see a reason why he shouldn't do as he wanted and throw regular gangbangs considering he probably thought Victor would never leave him. Dude was just in it for the ride and got attached in his own fucked up way.
Now, having been split into three leaves us with a more clear idea of who Henry was. Imo, Mind is the most fascinating one and probably the most dangerous. It's Henry, with none of the love he might’ve felt for V, or the increased libido he might’ve originally had. Just pure psychopath.
Now, another interesting thought is, are they also affected by the body parts that are not Henry? What type of heart does Mind have? What about Dick and Heart?
Was I expecting a BL Harem Smut manhwa to have me analyzing shit to this level? No, but here we are.
Look, ages ago I said Richard strikes me as a switch who just prefers to sub and at this point I'm scared he's gonna dom her out of nowhere out of frustration from the recent going ons, and completely freak her out.
That or she'll quickly put him back in his place.
Which would be hot.
So, I'm just going to go ahead and assume that, based on this being in the same universe as "I Can See Your Stats", MC is a born mate (like Eyra from ICSYS) with an incomplete bond with Sha ML. But since Sha ML is so strong, no one has been ballsy enough to enter his territory and try and win over the MC, until Gwen ML.
Glad to see I was right in immediately clocking the little white haired girl as a dragon.
I love how we're all sitting here like:
"...Wait till Ines gets her hands on this dumbass."
Don't be a wuss author-san.
Let the FL escape the ML, let her reach her brother, let her give birth and survive, let her and the child live happily ever after.
Let the ML suffer, let him despair over her, let him realize that he was wrong about himself. Let him realize that he can feel emotions just like any other human. Let him realize he shouldn't constantly seek for a master to serve. Let him ache with the thought of never having a relationship with his child.
And let them NEVER get back together.
Do not glorify toxic relationships.
I'm ruined.
This story is so well done from a technical standpoint. You have parallels between characters and plot points left and right, you have panels that are so well done and impacting.
You have a compelling story and yet... you make the FL and ML meet when one of them is still underage, make the FL actively state that she saw the ML as a son. And even if you look past that (by pouring bleach in your head or just ignoring this fact), you still make them end up together after being so incredibly toxic to each other.
It's a shame. I commend you for being the first manhwa in years that actually made me feel like I was reading something with substance, and yet I hate you for everything mentioned above.
So, to recap for all of those who might be lost or confused:
Ines, Carcel and Oscar (the prince) are on their fourth life repeat. Oscar remembers all past 3 lives, Ines only the past 2 and Carcel is starting to remember bits and pieces of his past lives.
Ines and Carcel died in unfated ways during their first life, so they were reborn with no memories. However, they would have been allowed a gift (or wish), we don't know what they each asked for. Oscar (1st life) either died in an unfated way and made a wish to keep his memories (The same way Emiliano -the artist- did) or committed suicide and therefore kept his memories. Either way, this is what allows him to fuck things up so royally (heh) during their 2nd life repeat. We don't know Oscar's motivations, but I've read some spoilers from novel readers that mention something about Ines' brother planning a rebellion and that being the reason why Oscar goes after Ines in their 2nd life. It is also mentioned that during this 2nd life he becomes obsessed with Ines (possibly after she kills herself) ergo why he continues to pursue her in their 3rd and 4th lives. What started as revenge against her brother evolved into an obsession for Ines, that divulged into a need to torture all of them (Ines, her brother and Carcel). Carcel on the other hand, has probably gotten a wish at the end of each life but has never wished to keep his memories. Hence why Oscar calls him dumb in what seems to be their 2nd life (since he implies Ines doesn't remember either). This also suggests that Oscar didn't kill himself in the 1st life, he probably died in the rebellion and was so pissed that he wished to keep his memories so as to get his revenge.
So essentially, Oscar is the reason they all keep meeting unfated ends or killing themselves. Anastasio (an aid of God?) is the one who is now allowing Carcel to get some of his memories back, in an attempt to aid both Ines and him to get them out of this Loop their in.
In my opinion God shouldnt have put "keeping your memories" on the table at all, be it by wishing or commiting suicide. But maybe thats the lesson at the end of the day. Maybe they all need to die unfated deaths once more and choose to return with no memories so that they can meet their fated end. Idk, but this story is absolute gold either way.
If I understood the dynamic correctly, then I feel bad for Derrick. To an extent.
Now, before you lynch me, shit is still weird. But when you think about it, it makes sense. Derrick was older when Penelope was brought in, old enough to be less accepting of her, even without adding his guilt over losing Yvonne. Put those two together and it's no wonder he never saw her as his sister. To him, she was an unwelcomed intruder in his home. He more than likely didn't even spend a lot of time with her/didn't see her regularly. Time passes, suddenly she's different, he's intrigued by the change in her (or suspicious of her) and pays closer attention, enough to see her for the attractive woman she is and then, oh no, he finds her attractive. He knows it's wrong so he represses it, he makes wrong choices and keeps making wrong choices and now we're here.
He has no one to blame for his actions, save for himself. While you can't help who you like, you can definitely help how you react to it. And you can certainly get. Over. It.
So, way back when season 2 ended, I mentioned that Ray was probably over 400 yrs old. Since what I understood at the time was that he only remembered the lives from the point of Karen getting pushed by Dulan onwards. But NO, he remembers ALL of Karen's repetitions, even AFTER she's died.
So let's do some math. Karen began regressing at age 17, after that, she repeated the same year 100 times. When the manhwa begins, she states she's turning 117, meaning she's on her 100th regression. She then dies by getting pushed off the towar by Dulan, and regresses a further 4-5 times before the current time we're on. This means she's around 122-123 yrs old.
Ray, on the other hand, lived for longer in each of those regressions. It's not disclosed how much in each but he states that he once lived to his 70s. So, let's say he's lived an average of 50yrs per regression and he remembers ALL of the 104-105 regressions (123 minus de 17 natural years of Karen's life that weren't regressions).
My man is approximately 6,100yrs old. Unstable probably doesn't begin to cover it.
On another note, I'm also the dummy that once wrote a dissertation on Dulan not being the bad guy. Obviously I was wrong, and I'd like to blame the reddit novel spoilers I read. THAT SAID, there's still shit regarding Dulan that hasn't been revealed. Such as him supposedly pushing Karen off the tower on purpose knowing that it would lead to Ray starting to remember. Why would he do that? Also, apparently he does repent in the end, not that it would matter in my opinion, the damage is done. But yeah, questions still need answering in regards to Dulan.
Holy fuck he KEEPS living even after he dies (I mean it makes sense but still), that means he's probably already lived for longer than she has. Unless he decided to end things sooner some way, it's established that he lives to be an old man. So he could easily be over 400 years old by now.
Not only that we know that the reason it took 5 lifetimes for him to get to her was because (apart from her self exiting) the first couple of times it took home longer to remember. WHICH MEANS HE PROBABLY REMEMBERED AFTER SHE HAD ALREADY DIED.