Hmmmmmmmm my fujoshi intuition is telling me this is suspicious. I'm not gonna fall for pretty art (by one of my favorite authors at that) and intriguing story again. Can someone please tell me how did the 1st season go? I stopped at 5th chapter when Han said 'I get sick of people easily'.. Judging by the comments, some angst happened and they hadn't settled things yet, is that true?
I read the worst possible shotacons but even I got a little awkward reading this because it was supposed to be pure.. I didn't expect it to go this way. However, let's keep in mind that the author is Japanese and mangas are mostly made in Japan, meaning there's all types of mangas there already. For them it's probably normal to see these stuff. I noticed it's always been a problem for non-Japanese readers when there's something questioning in a manga or anime, while Japanese people seem to know better how to make a boundary between fiction and reality. Yet we are the ones who took something from them and translated it.. so we shouldn't be complaining, especially because this was risky from the very beginning and you all still choose to give it a go
So what id the author is Japanese? His work is out to be viewed by ppl who aren’t Japanese. I’m not Japanese and I view this differently. We know what’s different between fiction and reality. But this is written by someone in reality with this type of mindset? Imagine thinking of this and making it ….Of course people will read it because they had expect it to be wholesome and cute, which I would say at first few chapters were cute. No one expected it to turn into something weird. And don’t normalise how things should be seen. It doesn’t if your in Japan and your looking at this. You say we are the ones that translate this and view it? Who is we? I didn’t take this and translate? And what do you mean we can’t complain? If you make something that’s isn’t enjoyable to others expect to hear criticism.
What does taking it from them mean? What did we take? I really don’t get what your saying. Your saying we can’t have an opinion on this because it is viewed differently in a different country?!?! What if someone who is in Japan also viewed it the way we did? What is your argument to that? Everyone of course will see things differently. But that doesn’t mean we can’t have opinions that may be the same. What do you mean for them it’s normal for them to see stuff like this? That means that they are corrupted if they see things like that. It’s immoral.
I don't know, it's just my opinion but maybe I'm wrong. By "we" I meant anyone who took this series and translated in to English and us who want to read that. I just know since forever that non-Japanese readers complain about stuff like these and incest but what do they expect when they've decided to read something risky and ongoing in the first place.. I agree that the author is weird for doing this in recent chapters. I was already surprised when they drew Yuu and Tsubaki in maid outfits and in weird positions, so I get what you're saying. But what's the point in ranting so much when it's obvious to everyone that it's wrong. People will still read it and author will do what they intended from the start, so complaining too much is kinda meaningless. And yeah, I said it's normal to Japanese people because they already know there's all kinds of mangas, including toxic and sick ones, so they don't bother complaining, they just avoid them.. at least it seems like that to me
So it’s others fault they clicked and read it? While it’s in here for others to read? And don’t say we. We is classing it to all of us. We want to read this stuff to see what is happening. It’s dumb you said we read it and can’t complain about it because it’s our fault. People will rant because that’s how they will express their opinions? How silly can you be to say we can’t do that? People will react differently. You expressed your awkwardness to this instead of ignoring it. And how do you know that EVERY Japanese person avoids them? Honestly I don’t get your point at allz
(Sorry didn't see this) Dang you're analysing my words too much. This is again something that we see differently but okay. And what can I do if Japanese person happens to not avoid this. I'm not talking about 100% of people but about majority who are not used to this stuff. Not like someone will stop author from doing what they're doing
I'm not offended, we're talking. Okay let's say it this way. If I read a normal and good manga and something really annoying happens, of course I will rant about it if I'm disappointed. But with something like this, you should know what might happen so it's pointless to complain about it too much when it was risky from the start. You're the ones who clicked on manga with a young boy and a teenager hoping it will be pure, but you couldn't know how's it gonna turn out. You still kept reading anyway and now you're surprised
Who said I was surprised? And what you said before: “If I read a normal and good manga and something really annoying happens, of course I will rant about it if I'm disappointed” this is what we were doing? People thought it was gonna be cute? Now they express their disappointment with how it is? And I thought the boy and the teenager might’ve been siblings I actually didn’t think it’ll be this. You said that yourself you would rant? So what is the issue when othered do it?
Japan literally has one of the lowest reported amount of cases of sexual assault, child porn and child sexual abuse. The normalisation of fetshising adolescents is a huge issue in Japan not to mention how unbelievably undereported sex crimes are over there. Countries with the lowest sexual assault cases tend to have a very big stigma around it, youre safe until you're assaulted then you must be silent. Homogenous societies have more cons than pros.
Wait girl first I swear I didn't see your comments yesterday, they just stopped appearing in my notifications but I clicked on a manga directly and I see them now. And wow. As soon as I turned my back, you went ahead and complained to everyone after all Were you so insecure about your own words that you had to go and try to earn everyone's sympathy while talking nicely to me here? Now you pretty much seem worked up. Are you maybe American? That would explain everything. Sorry, I tried to be nice but you just don't seem to understand anything I'm saying. At this point I should just repeat what I already said, but okay
Wouldnt that be a little strange depending on context as if hes wating just until hes JUST 18 in order to get with him, i like the rejection troupe so much better just cause it doesnt feel like the love interest is one of those 'the law is the only shit holding me back' people. If he says 'lets wait until your older' hopefully he puts the appropriate distance between them and doesnt pursue tsubaki directly
You have a point. I just don't want Tsubaki to be sad if he gets rejected. I read two other mangas like this and in both mangas they waited until kids grew up so I was okay with that. As long as you're normal and understand what is right and wrong, then I don't see the problem in reading fictional stuff that are wrong and unrealistic. They might affect 12 year olds or simply stupid people, but we can't stop everyone like that from finding these stuff, right?
Its actually quite realistic if you think about it, I've seen situations in which much older people wait until their interest is legal and as soon as they are they latch onto them like a cockroach. Its almost like they feel entitled to affection because they waited until the child was legal, immoral behaviour knows no bounds . Obviously Yuu probably isnt like that considering his personality but i worry he'll turn into some sort of predator waiting for Tsubaki like he has a timer above his head. Too bad we cant keep dumbasses out of the website but i still think that an innapropraite relationship with a prepubscent child and a 17 yro shouldn't be romanticised. Im sure you agree...i dont have an issue with people reading this at all though, as long as it doesnt turn into a predatory and or pedophilic relationship i wont judge who reads it. Reading ficition while knowing its wrong is totally fine, im sure you didnt realise this but the way you phrased your sentence could be twisted to justify pedophilic material. 100% i know you dont support that, everyone always draws the line at child predators and pedophilia. Yuu isnt that, hes just very passive which is a problem in itself but right now isnt too much of a big feal. The issue is the authors intentions, people dont know where this is gonna go the cupcake route or not (god forbid
I'm Thai not American idk what you mean by I'm insecure by my own words? Does that even make sense. I'm having a conversation with you in a relief manner it's not meant to be insulting or anything like that. I wasn't trying to be so I don't understand why you seem aggressive now....I thought you wasn't that type of a loud person as you were speaking to me calmly before so I decided to speak like that to you...why you angry now?
And let me say this. You were speaking tome nicely so I spoke like that back? I like the way you spoke because we seem to be maturely talking. I just didn't understand why you said we couldn't rant bout the wrong part of this manga because it's a concern for us? And not everything is about you sorry to disappoint you about that. And what sympathy was I tryna gain? You know what that means right? I speak to people the way they speak to me or how they would speak your manner was just so calm thats why I spoke like that before but your just being angry now?
That's right, the issue is author's intention and not her characters. From what we've seen until now, Yuu isn't like that but if author keeps going like this.. it's gonna get so wrong. But I'm glad that you understand I don't support this irl. I'm just a girl who reads everything from innocent romance to sick toxic mangas. Idk why it's just fun
The thing is, I thought you supported the author because of the way your words sounded. My fault for not understanding that, and the reason why I didn't understand what you meant is because I thought you were defending what the author might've been doing because this is something that is normalised. SO REALLY I got your words wrong. I understand now and I kind of agree with you.
Americans are known for being all about 'Oh no that's romanticising and fetishizing BLM' or whatever and 'Oh no that's incest you're disgusting' when the pair is not even incest, stuff like that. Also they completely changed the meaning of word 'Fujoshi' and 'Fetish'. So you're not American but you surely adopted their fabrications.
How tf do you reply so fast, I can't keep up with you :')
Don't get fluttered xD I don't hate author for this but I did change my opinion of her because of latest chapters. I was really uncomfortable but let's see what's gonna happen I guess. Thank you for apologising, also sorry if I sounded like I was saying something else. Maybe I was talking like I would in my language so it was strange to read
But I didn't say anything about BLM? WHERE DID YOU GET THAT FROM!?!?! And to use an insult by saying someone is 'american' like that isn't cool. And I never said anything about the word Fujoshi...? Your saying I'm American because of the things I never even mentioned? That's also disrespectful how you even said that I have picked up their fabrication?
and the issue with me speaking like that outside is?..well none of your concern. I don't know why your bothered about the way I speak to others..what matters is howe and are you are taking to each other. And when I look at your comments you type in caps and with emotions and with me your type this in lowercase to express your calmness and maturity.Its like your two different people? but is that my concern?
BC someone said that? so I thought it was like that? and I never said it was BLM fetish or something. Your comment is outright rude. Am I really like that? I've never said anything abt incest or some shit because eive never read that stuff. I can tell what's right and wrong.....so why are you saying I'm like that?...
This manhwa was good at first but it's been 54 chapters already and I feel like I'm reading shounen manhwa rather than shounen ai. Don't get me wrong, I love slow burns but we didn't even get a hint of a romance.. It's just been like this for too long. Nothing much happened.. What a shame, but I love them. Especially Jaeha, he's such a sweetheart
lmao. Its super slow yh, but tbf makes total sense for the pace and story. They have to get through majority of his depression before even considering if they feel more for each other than they realize. I like how realistic it is in this way, I mean Jaeha already seems the type to be totally oblivious of his feelings for a good while as he's too focused on helping him get better and Youngwoo is too busy getting over the depression to even consider any relationship. I do hope it does after all end up being a solid relationship by the end tho, romantically, since that's literally what it's tagged as.
That's alright, healing from depression needs time but it would be weird if we waited for that moment here for as much time as the actual person needs to heal, you know what I mean
I feel like the only progress that happened in last 30 chapters is Youngwoo going outside, but there's still a long way to go until he gets better










Thank you for translation!!! Maybe it was a bit confusing in like two sentences but it's not a big deal at all. I get what is happening, so it was more than helpful!
I like this manhwa but I keep forgetting the plot because the updates are so slow TvT