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OMGAA SORRY FOR THE DISLIKE I MEANT TO LIKE IT. Stupid screen(╯°Д °)╯╧╧

It's okay. I'm like that sometimes. Even I'm very careful I'm accidentally tap dislike. It's crazy! （/TДT)/

Red hair, right? She is annoying. But with a mother like hers, so-called brothers, and a super busy, incompetent father, the way she turned out is actually commendable. She just needs a major wake-up call, like losing a limb or two, to get responsible and start paying attention to warnings esp. of mc who repeatedly protected her.

What a good ingredient for a wake up call I must say, "Subarashi~"

Ikr.

Very well said.

annoying af. weak ad annoying. she should die and another cool woman appeared

Yeah, she's selfish that she didn't even notice that the MC got in trouble because of her. Like now, he will definitely scolded by her btch mother.

She is selfish. Knowing what trouble she is causing him and still goes through with it. He may “like” her but I would find her annoying. Her parents lack of discipline is why she act that way it’s not cute or innocent it’s just reckless. She almost dies 2 times and he had to save her both times due to her not listening. She doesn’t reflect on situations either which is why things keep repeating. Overall she is a distraction to him and hinders his progression in every aspect

So true. Now I know why her mother sell her if I remember correctly what MC said about this.

No seriously she not good for nothing she don’t even look like she can fight for real sis can’t even read a room just terrible

From what I know of the mc’s past life, the mother was outright villainous. That girl suffered immensely because he wasn’t mature enough to protect her, unlike now. Instead of supporting her, the mother tried to sell her off into marriage, with the other party seemingly forced to agree under certain conditions. The real person to blame, though, is the father. As the Murim Alliance leader, he’s incredibly busy, I get it—but before setting the world straight, he should have kept his own family in check and put a stop to his wife’s illegal activities.

Hopefully, that girl will stop being so frustrating now. She should at least recognize by now that no matter what she says, her mother will just insult and blame the mc. I would have despised her if she were villainous like her mother, but she’s innocent and unaware of the ways of the world. She might also be feeling pressured by her status as the Murim Alliance leader's daughter. There’s a hint of this when assassins tried to attack her; she knew about the threat and wanted to fight them herself. But, of course, she lacks the skill and was reckless, ultimately dragging the mc’s name into it. If she’d died in that attack, the consequences he’d face would have been so tremendous just thinking abt it gives me chills.

before the mother was sell her to 3rd brother bcs of money. mc cant do anything abt it bcs of he is not mature enough. but bcs he only 3rd rate family warior and his master discipline

basically, her stupiditybis not bcs of her mother or father. bcs she is selfish and immature spoiled rotten daughter

Immature is right I don't think wanting freedom is selfish. Also spoiled rotten is not the word no one in the world is mature enough to guide her properly even mc is also just superficially telling her not to do this and that instead of having proper conversation but of course if he spent even a minute more that disgusting so called brother would make a huge issue out of it and who knows what future troubles he will cause.

And you can hardly expect anyone to guide her with a world filled with muscle brains and uneducated women. I wonder where the scholars are??

Thanks for reminding me that part.

Hopefully she matures.

Oh so she was sold to the 3rd brother oh now that makes sense. Thanks!

She is selfish in the way that she only wants to do what she wants even if others are obviously getting trouble because of it. This is why we're so frustrated with her.

Yeah, wanting freedom is not selfish, but this is different.

Wait, are women doesn't received education in murim, is martial arts not considered education or some lady of the house training or something?

About the scholar, is the murim advisor a scholar?

Exactly! She is selfish because she knows what her interactions with him does and she dgaf saying "once i set my eyes on something blah blah" the father is definitely useless and even a useless master but that girl has to have common sense. They are teenagers now it has nothing to do with innocence she knows. Girl said you've been avoiding me and STILL BOTHERED HIM. LIKE TAKE A HINT or be more secretive she don't even try

she is not immature. she def know everyone cannot said no to her bcs of her father. that really annoying af like. female it's okay to be weak but atleast have strong mind. she both weak and dumb. she just selvish nd doesn't care abt ppl arround her. and keep repeating the same behavior .
cant we make petition to makr her ded?

Yes, her personality is frustrating, and I’m not denying that. But I’m also trying to see things from her perspective. Her world is incredibly small—she hardly knows anyone outside her family and a few bodyguards or acquaintances who respect her only because she's the alliance leader's daughter. They treat her like a princess out of formality, but in reality, they’re neglecting her. If her parents knew she was desperate to go out, they could take her themselves. Otherwise, it’s no surprise she jumps at any chance to leave. Also, she’s only around 10 or 15 years old, so I’d say a lot of this can be chalked up to immaturity.

Nope there’s a difference between literacy and education. Knowing how to read or write makes someone literate, but not necessarily educated. If women are capable of reading a martial arts book, that just means they’re literate.
As for the Murim advisor, he could be a scholar, but he could just as well be someone who’s sharp and understands the world enough to advise others. In modern terms, he could be what we call 'street smart.'

How small? in what sense? Desperate to go out? This is not how I see this. For me, it's more like she wants to be with MC every chance she gets even if MC goes in trouble. So that's why you said "wanting freedom", oh so that's how you see it. I see.

Oh right, besides scholars usually employed by the palace/government, right? Are Jegal family (am I right? Jegal?) Are not scholars or they're just famous in being strategist or something?

She’s just using the mc as an excuse because he listens to her, so she keeps taking advantage of that. You know how sometimes children cry because they know their parents will do anything to make them stop, like buy them chocolates? They make a habit of crying whenever things don’t go their way, which is a childish way of manipulating their parents. We find that frustrating, don’t we? It's the same with this girl. First, she knows the MC listens to her. Second, she knows she’s treated like a princess whose orders are difficult to ignore. Third, no matter what nonsense she spouts, no one corrects her properly.

The way I see it, her mother treats her more like a product to be groomed for marriage. Her going out seems like a threat to her mother, as if someone is stealing the 'product' she’s invested so much effort in. Otherwise, the guards appointed to protect her should have enough authority to stop the MC from taking her out, ignoring the girl’s demands. Even the guards feel almost non-existent.
This all seems like something an uneducated person would do. Why isn’t she assigned proper bodyguards? How is she even able to sneak out? If there’s a way for her to sneak out, that just shows how faulty their security is not mc.
The way I see it adults here are more frustrating than the girl.

Yes scholars go to academy and scholarly gathering to discuss social problems and come up with solutions like maybe mc is not at fault and just give your damn daughter more skilled guards and have them enough authority to stop the lady.

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Nah, the 3rd brother is also with them when they go out this one time. Why did he not stopped her? So I don't think she's using the MC as excuse, as like you said, no one ever corrected her but her mother but she just don't listen. That's what it looks to me. And sneak out like when? This one time with MC, 3rd brother and some guards? Or the tournament?

The tournament is inside and it makes sense to not go there. Any parents won't want to get their children harmed especially with that kind of environment and they're not physically prepared for that kind of accidents, you know? But that's okay cuz they're kids that time.

So yeah, it looks to me that you don't have a favorable view of her parents, I get it.

What I just want in here is her not (hopefully) the heroine, unless she matures. Otherwise, give us some badass FL that is suitable in this murim world or just let MC be single.

agreed with u. i cant unsee her behavior to be called small child while 12 in that generation as a female already big enough. calm her just wanting to go out its just doesn't make any sense. if she was desperate she can sneak at night without involving her brothers so just jut the guard will be scholded. but he choose when male discipline especially MC to get involved in her scheme eventho she will know her parents will not blame her but blame other party.and jaegal family is indeed family strategyst like zhu ge liang in chinese.

That 3rd brother is definitely creating trouble for MC. Of course, he wouldn’t miss the opportunity to blame him and her mother isn’t smart enough to see through it.
Yeah during the tournament she sneaked out with MC.

Um what are you trying to explain to me? (I meant, what did I say that made you respond that way?)

Yes, It’s ridiculous how they’re representing a leader’s family.

Honestly, I don’t want her as the FL even if she matures! I’m hoping for a badass FL who will protect MC from his master’s God-forsaken family!

It just the way you say "wanting freedom" and that she's not selfish thing from earlier. I just don't get where it comes from at first. I'm not mad at you or anything. It's actually fascinating how you view it that way. I just explaining how I perceive it differently than yours.

To be honest with you, I'm not as mad as you are with the father, the alliance leader. The mother might be a b!tch but that's it.

Yeon-yeon, at least for me, is selfish girl whatever you say about her upbringing or anything, she's just plain selfish.

Is anyone knows if we will get a very badass FL soon or this is the best they can do?

Yeah, that's what my definition of sneak out is like.

Ah! I get it now. What I meant was that her selfish behavior stems from curiosity and a desire for freedom, and I realized that during our discussion. After thinking about it, wanting freedom isn’t selfish in itself; it’s just unfortunate she wasn’t born into a normal family. We can only hope she starts acting more mature and addresses her crude personality.

As far as I can see, Murim is a male-dominated world, especially in this manhwa, so as the head of the family and the face of Murim, everything he does influences those who follow him. I’m mad at the fact that such a person is a leader who ignores his wife’s corrupt behavior.

Oh, she is selfish, but every emotion and thought stems from something. I just like to overanalyze human behavior, even if the author didn’t have any grand plan when writing her personality haha.

It was nice sharing opinions with someone who approaches discussions with such open-minded rationale. Have a great day ahead!

12 in that generation may make a female count as if she is big enough but in reality it is not. She will end up being just like her mother who is already an adult but still acts like a foolish person. Why can't it make sense? Also desperation has levels I never said she was that desperate? It's not like they are torturing her for her to suddenly decide I will go to extreme lengths to sneak out at night and abandon my family. Only people who feel like they'll die would do that. Also she knows she will get attacked outside so she always have someone with her. Well I agree with the rest of your points~

Yeah, it was nice to read some deep into personality theories you have.

I'm sorry if it seems like I'm mad at you. English is not my native language. I'm not at the level that I can set a tone for it so I apologize.

Nice having a discussion with you. Have a happy reading!

you're fighting for your life here lol. sensibly. it really is solely on the parents. idk how people are arguing that. the girls still a literal child. the parents failed & keep failing and the truly frustrating garbage characters are the mother & the gross disciple they originally sold her off to. dads lacking a sense of responsibility in the situation which is also frustrating. if you know your wife is wrong; don't let her act like a mini tyrant in the sect. and sure. the daughter might be frustrating at times but put the blame where it's deserved, lol. while she does hold some for failing to learn after watching the results of her actions time and again; this comments section is out of pocket with the hatred for her. place it evenly where it's deserved, lol. anyways. good job fighting.

and i won't be checking replies to this since it looks like everyone else just wants to continually argue about how it's correct to despise the one character. there's too much toxic hate for female characters in shounens already. especially the love interests. it's a problem of the authors ability to write a genuine female lead & not an issue of the actual characters. so, ultimately; blame the author if it feels annoying.