daejae May 29, 2019 6:17 am

I’ve see a lot of people to brush off the first couple and say the author wrote them in a cliched/boring manner. Definitely, your opinion is valid. But unfortunately, I’m sure part of this hate for the first couple is because people wanted Seunghee to have a love interest when they started the manga. Because these readers came into this manga not to appreciate a creative work but just to fulfill their shipping desire, they felt disappointed when it wasn’t a typical love triangle and so disliked the first couple automatically. This is pretty unfair to the author who worked hard to write this manhwa.

We shouldn’t discredit her work because of our own biases. Just because we wanted something and didn’t get it, just because we aren’t capable of picking up on the subtext of the first couple, it doesn’t mean the first couple is boring or cliched.

I find that the first couple is very realistic. Some people think they’re frustrating because they love each other but aren’t together for whatever weird reason. But that’s reality—just because we love someone doesn’t mean we’re good together.

Seungtaek has stated that he’s afraid of what would happen AND of Kyubin. He studied like crazy for three years to get into a prestigious school. Mondays to Sundays, his schedule is packed with tutoring, after-school classes, revision. He has no time for any leisure except on Saturdays where he hangs out with Kyubin.

It was his dream and he put a lot of blood, sweat and tears into it. And then on the day of the interview, he threw it all away for Kyubin. He didn’t just fail. He sabotaged himself on purpose, killing all his chances to get in. And he could never get it back. He had to shamefully face his parents and his gossipy schoolmates due to his failure. For some, they may think this is cliched because it happens all the time in romance novels—you give up everything for your lover and then happy ever after. It’s very romanticised in romance mangas to sacrifice everything for a lover.

But Seungtaek is one of the few characters who realises the gravity of what he’s done. It’s realistic, because in real life, we don’t just throw away everything for someone and then live a happy go lucky life with no worries. You don’t just abandon your family, your career, etc. for your boyfriend on a whim. Seungtaek had dreams and thinking about how his love for Kyubin made him give up that huge dream made him afraid of what else he’d immediately throw away just for Kyubin.

Of course, Seungtaek is afraid of society too. People say Seunghee is interesting because of his family problems. Well, Seungtaek fears those family problems coming up, which is why he can’t date Kyubin. He’s even asked Seunghee about this in the first few chapters.

Seungtaek also said he is afraid of Kyubin’s love for him, which is why he often says he’s anxious things will go wrong while they’re dating. Kyubin took the fall for him twice. If Seungtaek asked him to die for him, it’s clear Kyubin wouldn’t hesitate.

And that’s scary if you put yourself in Seungtaek’s shoes. I know we may be used to more cliched mangas where this sort of behaviour is romanticised, but it shouldn’t be, and this manhwa is realistic about it. It’s scary to think your lover doesn’t care at all about his own self and only cares about you—that’s not healthy. Seungtaek is right to be scared of Kyubin.

And have we wondered why Kyubin is like this? It’s not just love like what manhwas make it out to be. Kyubin has a good reason to act like this, which is what many other insanely in love couples lack. It’s partly because his family died and he has no one else. His grandma is sick and later died. He can’t count on his friends as he has said, since they only like him for his status. Suhyeok has even talked about Kyubin dismissively as well. Kyubin literally only has Seungtaek while they grew up and even now, so his world is Seungtaek. Their relationship is the only deep relationship Kyubin has—he’s willing to do anything because he’s scared to lose the last person he loves that’s still alive.

And then comes Inbeom, which makes the whole matter complicated, because he’s a bully with a warped love for Seungtaek, his victim and also aggressor.

So it’s not just some frustrating love story that makes no sense or is boring just because they happen to be best friends who are opposites. It’s not fair to say that when you didn’t read into the details the author left, so you thought of KyuTaek stagnant state as without reason. Sure, it’s plot isn’t stellar, but they’re high schoolers in a slice of life manhwa. It’s the same for HyeokSeung, you wouldn’t say their plot is extremely interesting, would you?

To stress, it’s not fair to brush off the author’s hard work on the first couple’s story as cliched/boring just because we aren’t sensitive to pick up on the nuances. It’s not the author’s fault if we are poor readers who can’t read in-depth into their dynamics. You can prefer more in-your-face kinds of plots, but the author put in care to make things subtle. It’d be good if we can keep an open mind instead of dismiss the first couple due to our own lack of sensitivity in reading.

    daejae May 29, 2019 3:56 am

    TL;DR — Don’t discredit the author’s hard work and say the first couple is bad because 1) you hate that Seunghee didn’t get a love triangle at first so you are trying to justify that dislike OR 2) you didn’t manage to pick up on what made the couple unique. This is a piece of creative work. You shouldn’t feel entitled that whatever you want should come true because this is not your work (e.g. Seungtaek and Kyubin fight over Seunghee).

    Am I justified to think the story is bad because it’s a BL if I wanted a straight couple? No. If you can see that that’s ridiculous, then you expecting that this story will be about a Seunghee harem is also not justified.

    That said, if you still think they’re bad even after considering these factors, that is totally fine. It’s your opinion, just make sure to have a grounded one

daejae May 28, 2019 1:31 pm

Hey guys, let’s not argue! We can all express our opinions in a nice way. We shouldn’t be pitting one couple against the other. They are both from the same story. Even if you prefer one couple over the other, it’s not necessary to be rude and bash the other couple. Really think about it and ask yourself if there’s any reason to badmouth another couple.

At the start so many people hated KyuTaek just because they forced their own expectations on the author by wanting it to be a love triangle with Seunghee. That is sad because these people don’t respect the author or appreciate her creativity and refuse to budge on what they want, as if they are the ones writing the story. It seems to have died down now that Seunghee has a love interest, but why are people arguing about couples again?

I really think we shouldn’t approach a manhwa with the motive of shipping, like someone mentioned. It takes away all appreciation for the manhwa as a piece of creative work.

    escape May 28, 2019 1:49 pm

    AGREE.
    Gone are the days when shipping just means transporting? Lol. I’m 30 and too old for this. But this shipping is irritating. Where are those readers who gets disappointed or excited about how the characters and the plot develop every chapter??? Where are those readers who appreciate and thank the writer for the time and intellect poured on every chapter??? It’s all about the story right? It’s entertainment. It’s a hobby. It’s an escape to reality and not making it reality.

daejae May 21, 2019 3:23 pm

The author released the characters' heights some time back! Just something cute I thought I'd share!

Seunghee - 172cm
Seungtaek - 176 cm
Suhyeok - 181cm
Inbeom - 181cm
Kyubin - 183cm/184cm

Kyubin's height is either 183cm or 184cm. In the profiles the author released, Kyubin was 183cm, but in an extra comic (I'm not sure if this came before or after the profiles), Kyubin announces that he's 184cm and he's 8cm taller than Seungtaek, so he's the winner while Seungtaek is the loser :>

So cute :') Especially because in one scene in middle school, Inbeom teased Kyubin for not having his growth spurt yet. Inbeom was so much taller than Kyubin and Seungtaek in middle school, but now Kyubin's the tallest~

daejae May 21, 2019 4:31 am

[ CHAP 111 RAWS DISCUSSION ]

SPOILERS AHEAD! If you're replying, please do copy the below periods/full stops and paste them before you write your reply!
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(I'm not fluent in Korean at all so some of the things I say may be inaccurate!)

God, I feel like my soul left my body and came back after reading that. First off, I'm SO HAPPY that Seungtaek was the one who saved Inbeom. Someone mentioned that Seunghee or Kyubin were more likely to save Inbeom and I also thought so, but it's Seungtaek :') They're both hurt but Inbeom partially on Seungtaek's arm, so I think it helped a bit?

Also, I think the fall caused Inbeom to fully get back his memories. It's stated that he repressed his feelings a lot so it could explain why it took so long to get those specific memories about Seungtaek back.

I'M SOOOO EMO WE FINALLY GET TO KNOW WHY INBEOM LIKES SEUNGTAEK. :'( I'll just make it easy and give a translation here, while my thoughts will be in a separate reply.

STORY TRANSLATION (BRIEF):

Inbeom's parents were so awful and didn't care about him. On a phone call with his mother, he said his father didn't keep his promise and he wanted to go back to his mother, but his mother told him to behave and stay. Inbeom cried in the classroom and Seungtaek came in. Being class prez, Seungtaek told Inbeom to go to the music room as they had music class. Inbeom sort of yells at him, saying "can't you see I'm crying", and then says he feels ashamed and so Seungtaek should get lost.

Seungtaek warns that people are about to come in and if Inbeom's ashamed, he should hide his face. That's what Inbeom does and when the classmates keep asking Inbeom to get up, Seungtaek tells them that Inbeom is sick and not to bother him. Seungtaek also tells Inbeom that since Inbeom's having a hard time, he should stay in the classroom, and Seungtaek will lie to the teacher that he's sick. ((Inbeom blushes a little!))

This is where it all starts. Because Seungtaek saw Inbeom being weak, Inbeom starts picking fights with him and bullying him. He mocks Seungtaek's short hair (he also thinks to himself that Seungtaek looks much better with long hair), to which Seungtaek just ignores him. He says Seungtaek shaved his head because of his sergeant Dad, and finally, Seungtaek looks at him. Inbeom wants to erase Seungtaek from his head, but Seungtaek's gaze makes him want to hide.

It goes to the scene where Inbeom knocks Seungtaek out in the alley and kisses him. He thinks that because he hates Seungtaek, he reacted that way. Before that, Inbeom read a physics question about action-reaction (when you exert a force on something, it exerts a force back on you). Not sure how to interpret this part but I think he believes that why he kissed Seungtaek is because Seungtaek beat him up (he believes he hates Seungtaek still).

Remember that in chap 24 ( http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/someone_else_s_bl_manhwa/mdx/iur_chapter-24/pg-37/), Kyubin has some injuries? Inbeom beat him up because he was jealous that Kyubin was close to Seungtaek. And then, he went to tyrannise Seungtaek. It's Inbeom's own words---he was going to "act as he pleased and be extremely violent" with Seungtaek and he does, hitting Seungtaek with the helmet till he bleeds from his ear.

As much as Inbeom wants to reveal his heart, at the same time, he wants to hide his heart. It's emphasised a few times that Inbeom does things contrary to his heart.

I didn't really find the rest of the dialogue important because it can be inferred from the pics. The only other significant part of this chapter is that Kyubin covers for Seungtaek once again, but this time, Seungtaek tells the teacher that Kyubin's lying and owns up to what he did. :')
Character development!!!

    daejae May 20, 2019 6:22 pm

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    I think this chapter emphasises that Inbeom really did torment Seungtaek to some extent. In the previous chapters, we only see one instance of Inbeom mocking Seungtaek. While it won't justify how badly Seungtaek beat Inbeom up the first time, it does show that Seungtaek tolerated it for a LONG time before snapping.

    It's sad that Inbeom didn't know how to express his feelings or maybe even understand them. He loved Seungtaek, yet reasoned that he hated him, pushing these feelings down so far. He did the exact opposite of everything he should have done towards a boy he liked. He bullied Seungtaek to get his attention, not understanding how he felt. I honestly find it kind of Seungtaek to not expose him for crying in the classroom even though Inbeom kept bullying him.

    It's sadder that Inbeom is still so in love with Seungtaek even now. After they fell, just being beside him has him blushing and being disoriented. He staggered away from Seungtaek while trembling and crying too. :( Really shows how freaked out he is, remembering every detail about how he likes Seungtaek.

    Also this chap explains why Inbeom likes Seungtaek with longer hair (not sure if it's mentioned in the manhwa but I saw some trivia of it on the author's twitter---Inbeom likes Seungtaek with longer hair, Kyubin likes Seungtaek with shorter hair). Seungtaek had long hair when he comforted Inbeom.


    OFF TOPIC but I feel a few people blame Seungtaek too much for what happened to Inbeom. I've always been advocating that people shouldn't brush off what Seungtaek did to Inbeom. He beat him up so badly that he had memory loss, and that's terrible. But Inbeom now isn't completely just due to Seungtaek's anger issues.

    This chap made it clear that in elementary school, Seungtaek tolerated it for a good while before finally snapping and beating up Inbeom. And while the readers know that Inbeom was sincere when he confessed and kissed him, Seungtaek probably thinks it's completely BS that Inbeom likes him and Inbeom just wants to torment him in a twisted way, hence his violent reaction. What sane guy would beat up his crush and then kiss him?

    And Inbeom's lack of friends was going to come sooner or later. True, Seungtaek contributed to it. But Inbeom never had any true friends. Once his reputation as the strongest in school was smeared, they left him.

    Inbeom is really cute now and all, but we shouldn't forget that he was a delinquent back then. He's changed, but he used to be an asshole. Seungtaek shouldn't have fought with Inbeom, but Seungtaek didn't heinously beat up the current innocent, cute and dorky Inbeom. He beat up a guy who kept bullying him, beat him till his ear bled who kissed him without his consent.

    god isn't real May 20, 2019 8:10 pm

    Thank you!

    queerhecate May 20, 2019 9:33 pm
    Thank you! god isn't real

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    Thank you for the explanation! Google translating can be such a hassle The current chapter shows an important part in seungtaek's character development as a whole, and he's getting higher up my list in terms of likeability. It's been a while since he owns up to what he did. Also, inserting my irrelevant opinion, I prefer seungtaek with long hair if anyone's asking.

    Anyways, I hope inbeom will finally find closure and move on. I hope this will be the starting point to find his own happiness (with or without a lover) since he'll find out that seungtaek is together with kyubin soon enough. i want to see him working things out with them (since the author do own more clarifications) and then i want to see him thrive as a changed person for the better.

    queerhecate May 20, 2019 9:35 pm
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    omg wait sorry @god isn't real this reply was for the main comment

    karen07 May 20, 2019 9:58 pm

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    Well, I don't have anything else to say about Inbeom, at least no more than what you guys have already said, I agree to all that. Only that yeah, I'm so relieved that he's saved, at least physically. I wish for him and Seungtaek to have a proper talk and maybe to be friends.

    Agh! I had a lot of emotions with this chapter. I never thought that Seungtaek could be that cute, I think he was really cute, even though he was lying hurt on the floor, no wonder Inbeom and Kyubin fell for him x3

    I'm happy that Seungtaek was the one who saved him and that he regained his memories back too! And I'm much more happy to see Seungtaek not allowing Kyubin to take all the blame. That panel with their hands touching... OMG! That was the cutest thing I've seen in this manhwa They're so cute together! I'm so happy that Seungtaek kept his promise of not leaving his side anymore. He's such a good boyfriend now, just like Kyubin.

    I was a little angry with the author with chapter 110, but now I'm so happy and I think things are going to get better and better

    daejae May 21, 2019 4:25 am
    Thank you! god isn't real

    No problem!

    daejae May 21, 2019 2:00 pm
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    HAHAHA that's a good choice! For me, I don't know which Seungtaek I like the most. He's adorable when he has short hair and looks kind of like a goody-two-shoes, but he's handsome when he has long hair. I don't know why but somehow I find him kind of pretty looking, but I can't identify what makes him that way because compared to Seunghee (who is a pretty boy), his brows are thicker, his hair is standard and his eyes, while big, aren't exactly special like how Seunghee has glassy eyes. I don't know, maybe it's just me being biased because he's my favourite, so I see him as pretty.

    Same, I really hope Inbeom gets a happy ending. I really feel bad for him (not that I blame Seungtaek for not liking him back, I never will). His parents clearly neglected and made him feel unwanted. He probably got into fights as a way of acting out to get love and attention. And when he fell in love for the first time, he couldn't understand and deal with it, so he bullied his first love and ruined any chance of being loved back. He made the person he loved hate him and even got beaten up by his love till he lost his memories. The fact that he innocently came back to the city, hoping to find out who he loved, only to remember fully what happened---How he was in love with a boy, how he repressed his feelings and tormented Seungtaek, how the love he's been searching for is the very guy that beat him up so badly he lost his memories... :(

    It makes even sadder that it wasn't just a crush that blew over, he really did love Seungtaek and clearly still does. It's been years, and even through a memory loss, he actually still loves Seungtaek. My heart scrunched up seeing him so afraid and overwhelmed after seeing Seungtaek... Kwon Inbeom, a guy with a knack of violence and who used to beat up and pick on people, actually TREMBLED AND BACK AWAYED CRYING from Seungtaek. And tragically, there's little to no chances of Inbeom ever being together with Seungtaek.

    If he'd been nice to Seungtaek, there could have been a chance they'd be together, since it's hinted that Seungtaek may be gay overall (he watched straight porn and was disgusted!!!). It's worse that Inbeom is the very reason Seungtaek and Kyubin are together. If Inbeom never tormented Seungtaek, Seungtaek would never have snapped and beat him up, and Kyubin and Seungtaek would never have met.

    Seungtaek is one amazing guy for two guys to be crazy over him. (⊙…⊙ ) Kyubin loves him so much he took the fall for him and continued to yearn for him for years despite being rejected. He'd do anything for Seungtaek, probably. Inbeom bullied him to get attention and came back to the city just to find out who he liked (I'm so sure it was his feelings that brought him to the city rather than just curiosity). Ah, our true BL manhwa lead...

    Sorry, I ramble because I love them so much and I CAN NEVER SHUT UP ABOUT THEM AND NOBODY TALKS TO ME ABOUT THIS MANHWA!!! ALSO I JUST REALISED INBEOM LIKED SEUNGTAEK EARLIER THAN KYUBIN, THAT'S CUTE

    Nan May 21, 2019 7:27 pm

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    I dont buy him... No matter what others say...

    daejae May 22, 2019 12:47 am

    @Nan

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    Nan May 22, 2019 2:08 am
    @Nan....Oh, I hadn’t thought about that! I think the author didn’t make it very clear, Suhyeok wasn’t present when they were fighting and falling (majority of it)! He went off to get a teacher for help. H... daejae

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    Ok, you might be right! I didnt get that cause I couldnt read the dialogues, I guess I dont like him and immediately thought the worst of him! ^^;

    queerhecate May 27, 2019 10:57 pm
    HAHAHA that's a good choice! For me, I don't know which Seungtaek I like the most. He's adorable when he has short hair and looks kind of like a goody-two-shoes, but he's handsome when he has long hair. I don't... daejae

    i'm sorry for the late reply but i really don't mind you rambling! several points were made and i thank you for that! i'm quite invested in this manhwa too that i used to think abt it all the time. i've cooled down now i really like your observation, it really clears many things up! i hope everything turns out well for all of em.

daejae May 20, 2019 2:07 am

INBEOM MAKES ME SO EMO! He dreamt of Seungtaek kissing him. ;__;

It makes me sad to think he lost his memory of Seungtaek but HIS HEART STILL LIKES SEUNGTAEK. :'( I get that he blushed after the dream but even in the dream, he blushed as well (at first I mistook it for his wound). It really shows that Inbeom still likes Seungtaek up till now, my poor baby...

Honestly, I wonder if he started liking Seungtaek from the time Seungtaek first beat him up. :/ We know that Inbeom was a bully and intimidated and beat up other children, and Seungtaek was the first to overpower him, so I don't know, did Inbeom find some warped liking to that? :o

Also, I saw the Korean fandom saying that the author drew that particular window of Seungtaek's butt on top of Inbeom's crotch to show that Inbeom got uhhhhh hard (⊙…⊙ )

My heart melts for Seunghee that he likes Suhyeok so much!!! But I feel bad that Suhyeok already gets the vibes that Seunghee feels closer to Inbeom than his own boyfriend. That probably explains how he reacts in the following chapters :( Also Suhyeok is always looking so fine

    Moonlight May 20, 2019 7:40 am

    Agree with you. I want to know inbeom story more and how he fell for Seungtaek.

    MoonTae May 20, 2019 10:55 am

    I can't seem to remember that part, in which chapter can I find it?

    daejae May 20, 2019 4:04 pm
    I can't seem to remember that part, in which chapter can I find it? MoonTae

    Oops, which part are you referring to? if it's the one about Seungtaek sitting on Inbeom's crotch, it's this part: http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/someone_else_s_bl_manhwa/mdx/d_chapter-98/9/
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    daejae May 20, 2019 4:04 pm
    Agree with you. I want to know inbeom story more and how he fell for Seungtaek. Moonlight

    YESSSS THAT'S SOOOO INTERESTING IM SO RESTLESS THAT WE ARE GETTING SO LITTLE OF THE INTAEK BACKSTORY

    MoonTae May 20, 2019 7:03 pm
    Oops, which part are you referring to? if it's the one about Seungtaek sitting on Inbeom's crotch, it's this part: http://www.mangago.me/read-manga/someone_else_s_bl_manhwa/mdx/d_chapter-98/9/ Σ(っ°Д °;)�... daejae

    Ohh, I was talking about the fight

daejae May 14, 2019 10:44 am

Hi! Does anyone want to have a group chat to discuss about KyuTaek and InTaek? I really love their drama and I keep thinking about the possibilities as they're so interesting, but it's lonely just typing furiously to myself on Twitter hahaha (づ ̄ ³ ̄)づ

Maybe share fanart or fanfiction even!! (๑•ㅂ•)و✧ I'm really interested in reading and writing InTaek fanfics especially!!

If yes, do comment below! We can discuss what sort of chat group is more convenient for you guys :> Or we can just follow each other on Twitter~ Also I have something special to share, it concerns bbobariee's special KyuTaek comic strip... ლ(´ڡ`ლ)

(((BTW, I love SyeokSeung so much too! Just that there's not as much drama to speculate about them (maybe because I already read the raws HAHAHA), unlike KyuTaekBeom where they have a lot of issues. We love our lovey dovey boyfriends)))

    Nenessgami May 14, 2019 11:59 am

    Yeah I was dying with anticipation with the latest chapter. Gosh as much as I ship KyuTaek. I’m more interested and invested in InTaek. Gosh I just want Inbeom to be happy. But I don’t think InTaek will be a thing even how much I shipped them.

    icejesus May 14, 2019 12:31 pm

    Yea maybe a kakao talk group chat would be fun (=・ω・=)

    Animallover May 14, 2019 12:46 pm

    ME!!!

    acetatepaper May 16, 2019 4:34 pm

    I'm all for it! Let's create a Twitter group chat. I go by the same username

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