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and its not yeonwoo's dick LAMAOMAO

LMAO, RITE! like keep the same energy

Lol them comments disappeared real quick

I'M CRYING

Uh homophobic much yes incest is very much weird and I don’t not think it’s right but comparing incest to homosexual stories is a bit much not all yaoi is bad and not all yaoi is good but no matter hold hot an incest story is they is still sibling :/ so inconclusion don’t ever compare yaoi to incest and if u want good yaois dm me I’ll send u some and yes yaois that aren’t smut rape and dubcon bc the exist .-.

Why are you assuming that I’m comparing gayness to incest. You must have misunderstood something cause i was not talking about sexuality. I was talking about the fact that this is a yaoi and your basically reading sex for entertainment. I guess i’m also heterophobic b/c i could say the same about hentai. It’s just weird to read this type of stuff and enjoy it. (Which I do and everyone one of y’all as well ) also I read every genre of yaoi. Yeah I’m always open to yaoi suggestions if you have any !!

"Why yall mad thats there was rape? It was hot and you're reading illegally, suck it up!"

“rape was shown lightly...”
Are we read the same manga?

...I’m not saying that you should suck it up and I’m not wondering why y’all are mad I’m just saying that it might have been disturbing but I know damn well y’all are gonna read the next chapters even though every other comment said “I’m dropping this”....

Rape was shown lightly means that it was romanticized and didn’t show the gravity if rape but if you feel that terrible about it you should have stopped reading from chapter 1

lmfaoo how do you know that though ?? some people may be tired of seeing that? and why are yall mad? lmao we've seen the main character get assaulted more times than we've seen him eat.

people like you normalized rape/ toxicity in yaoi which creates deeper than the surface issues that we aint gone talk about. if you like it cool sit there and each your food, but calling people out that are calling out valid issues, isnt a good look...at all. you just dont know how you look.

lmao eat***

Word.

Can you back this statement up? I mean with actual facts and not just your assumptions (btw if you can't you can just say no. I won't ridicule you for that).

which part?

youre trying to get off by proving me wrong or something? lmao, anyway! which part

"people like you normalized rape/ toxicity in yaoi which creates deeper than the surface issues"
That part.

finally someone who understands that ppl like op literally normalize/romanticize rape so much

I dont think you understand how the media and literature affects people's real life view on the identity of the characters being portrayed sorry some people are so simple minded that you want to read whatever you want without feeling uncomfortable that you ignore and undermine a real issue in the yaoi community,

Because this absolutely does produce a stigma on gay men that is hard to rub off. Negative stereotypes for all identities have produced real life consequences. YES every single negative stereotype on whatever identity has been amplified by the media /literature whether its in movies or COMICS or books. whether these stereotypes have been used for comedic relief or propaganda these socially constructed stereotypes or stigmas have been amplified by fiction alot of the time and have affect on real people.

you can argue that its fictional but then that would be a surface level take because then you couldn't deny how much literature, media play a huge role into creating stigmas and how people view specific demographics. * I've had people use yaoi as an excuse as to why gay men shouldn't be able to adopt kids*

mind you lets not ignore how it is 99% Cis gendered women exploiting these stereotypes and another 99% of that demographic enabling.

Also imagine yaoi being the biggest and also one of the rarest form of media for queers to turn to and the genre being stigmatized by constant toxic and harmful tropes thats not okay. im not here to be morally superior to anyone in anyway, but I wont downplay actually people who wants to call out the literal MESS in the community by getting defensive and not understanding?? Or just being straight in denial of all of the mess.

While that may be hypocrisy as I am still indulging in the same toxicity I call out im not here to play pretend or be morally superior. But I think we can all acknowledge and be on the way to bettering the community and getting rid of the stigmas on the genre as to helping bring forth a more positive form of media of gay romance for queers to turn to.

now im sorry that none of this backed by scientific evidence as you may haved hoped but do what you please with my answer. i did all of this for you.

Queen, go off

You didn't answer my question though. You used a completely different topic to justify your statement. A lot of yaoi characters aren't even gay. And if they are, their sexuality is only used to portray them as miserable.
I also don't see how any of this is relevant when talking about an incubus raping a human in a fantasy webtoon. The actual relationship between Rix and and Nuah is rather healthy. I agree that there are harmful stereotypes but I don't see how those stereotypes have anything to do with demons and human traffickers who were never labeled as gay.
Keep up the good fight but I think you're on the wrong battlefield here.

I called out the toxicity in yaoi generally which is the question you replied to?? I never specifically said anything about the webtoon rix vanus in the question you replied to. It seems as if your whole point is getting off to me being wrong and you proving me wrong specifically to feed your ego or ease ur guilt. Or something idk. And haha alot of YAOI characters aren't even gay... yeah ok. Sexuality only used to portraye the character as miserable.. huh? & Bringing up the dramatic fantasy elements of this webtoon only just seems as you're deflecting from the real issue people are calling the author out on anyway! Have a nice day.

Yes I reread it to try to genuinely see what ur problem was with what I said. And this whole thing was just downplaying of peoples concern and trying to make them seem trivial by bringing up the most dramatic fantasy elements. Anyway im done. Have a nice day..again lol

You accused someone who wrote about Rix Vanus, the webtoon this topic section is dedicated to, of normalizing rape in yaoi and to cause deeper problems. Obviously I thought there was a connection to the webtoon.
" It seems as if your whole point is getting off to me being wrong and you proving me wrong specifically to feed your ego or ease ur guilt."
No, it was not. I specifically told you that you can just say no and that I wouldn't ridicule you for that. I would highly appreciate it if you could stop judging people's personality based on one comment.
"And haha alot of YAOI characters aren't even gay... yeah ok. Sexuality only used to portraye the character as miserable.. huh?"
Yes that's a big issue. Many people don't read yaoi because they want to read about a gay relationship. They want a straight relationship but with two men, with one of them representing the woman. Often, when a character is actually gay, he's the uke and he rejects the straight seme (or has no specific sexuality but he definitely can't be gay because then the female straight reader can't see herself as the uke) because he doesn't want to drag him into his horrible gay world and take the straight happiness of a wife and children away from the seme. But thank god, the brave straight knight is selfless enough to sacrifice his straight life to rescue the uke from the gay misery he's in. But hey, those stories are usually praised for being progressive since the straight audience doesn't realize how insulting that is.
" Bringing up the dramatic fantasy elements of this webtoon only just seems as you're deflecting from the real issue people are calling the author out on anyway!"
I thought you weren't talking about this story in particular? And again, I'm asking you which real life issue an incubus rape scene in a story with a healthy gay relationship is supposed to cause?

Ok. And that person was obviously normalizing the rape in this story if you couldn't see it oh well. I wasn't specifically talking about rix vanus but u were lol and it seemed like you were trying to invalidate everyone's else concerns (look at the comments you see them) im over it.

I wasn't traying to do that and you could've just asked me if you think I did. Seriously people (this addresses everyone reading it), just ask when something isn't clear and don't come up with your own assumptions. This is a manga site. I'm not writing my dissertation here. If I wanted to make sure absolutely everybody understood absolutely everything I'd need to write four times as much text and nobody wants to read that.

I actually deeply understand you and I’ve actually argued with people about how normalizing rape in manga manhua and books, shows etc has an effect on the “outside world” and honestly that’s scary to think about but I’m also not gonna lie to myself cause I rlly don’t care that much when it’s not real... yeah I’m aware that mindset is terribly damaging but at least I’m aware (〜￣△￣)〜

Ughh I agree with you so much I literally tell ppl all the timeeee

I was going to tell you that maybe this wasn’t the best manga site for you to find yaoi on because almost all of them include rape but then I went on your page (lmaooo I’m so creepy) and realized you already knew that ⁄(⁄ ⁄·⁄ω⁄·⁄ ⁄)⁄ but yeah..

Lmao I dont know if this is sarcastic my pfp is literally a bad person. But if u read my replies I said I wasn't here to play morally superior because I indulge in the same bs I call out but one thing I wont do is down play or invalidate others who call it out just because I've internalized or am trying to normalize the toxicity its weird scary and makes me look crazy. Chao yall

Read my reply to your other comments cause literally same