and we have all that thing about Ein and Diesel maybe dying and such
Even so, author pull this off from nowhere and shock us
It's ok if you want to go ahead and read the raws or whatever, but let others enjoy this at their own peace.
Plase.
I know Yanek deserves it and I'm not blaming Diesel at all.. but it hurts.
I understand Yanek so much. I don't want him to be in this pain, even if He deserves it.
AAAAA
Nobody deserves on something like that. Go to prison? Yes. Being betraying, cheating, lying and manipulating by your loves one, who you trust, help and about who you care? No
Nobody deserves to hear from his lover that you are most important for him, that he would die for you and next day discover that he cheating you with your enemy, betraying you and everything what he told you was big lie and manipulation.
Specially that Yanek saved him, helps him, cares about him, was tender and good for him. He even risks his life for him.
Diesel is awfull like person, he has only look. Bigest disappointment.
You are that one girl that likes the douchebag and shield him with her life until he mistreats you and ruin your life. Get yourself together, please.
Yanek is a cruel manipulative jerk that took a thraumatized kid and molded into something useful to him without caring of what Diesel was going through.
Yes, this is because Yanek is a thraumatized kid aswell. He lives in shadows and blood because of his father so that's the only thing He can give to others; we can understand that... but He is still a toxic and terrible person. You NEED to understand that.
What you need to understand too is that Diesel is a victim in this whole thing. The psychological pressure in his shoulders is more than whoever can handle. Even if I don't condone cheating He has a lot of good reasons to act like that.
You really need to start thinking about how Yanek impact negatively Diesel's life.
I'm tired of explain that even if we like a person or character, that doesn't mean He is a good guy. Or if someone hurts a character that we like he is not automatically a bad person. The real world doesn't work like that, dear.
He wasn't a total victim!
I can understand He was abused and all but He is totally pushing Sangwoo to cover his own ass. For fuck sake, He's a liar bastard!
And all this people happy about Sangwoo being hurt beyond repair, did you NOT read this story at all?
How can't you feel a little empathetic after going through all this fucking shit.
I'm terrible distressed right now.
They were so close to make it work, so close of being saved by each other. And now is all fucked up.
If Bum hide all this within his heart will NEVER recover, so this is condemning both to suffer all their life.
And this fucked up fandom doesn't help at all.
Well, I will accept if author wants to leave things like that as I understand it was never her intention to make a fluffy, happy romantic story.... BUT I'll appreciate so much if they at least find some kind of peace.
Leaving Sangwoo alive as He is now is... even more cruel.
Why should Mano undo his belt if Carbel is just biting his neck!? HAHAHAHAHAHA
Mano, that's just too much!
can we just have a porn shoot threesome with them? please? pretty please?
That would totally wrap up the story. I swear
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I don't trust Yanek at all.
AT ALL.
Yeah, He seems to care about Diesel but more like one Valuable (And beautiful)... object.
Another comment like that ╥﹏╥
Well to be fair, people do have valid reasons not to trust Yanek, especially based on what Diesel said...
And some people have also reasons to like Yanek. We shoud just respect others opinions on this forum.
For me for exemple, in this chapter Yanek helps Diesel to to become stroneger and not be so defenless towards people, who want to hurt him.
Also people who like Yanek oft like also Ein. I like them both,but i don t see them in white-black colors.
Happy New Year for all!
......Where did I say they didn't? Idk why you even came to me with that...as you said, people have differing opinions, I was expressing mine.
I like him too as a person (for now), but based on what Diesel said, I don't trust him. Something is about to go down, but what and how?
Also, for me, he may have taught Diesel how to fight, but he is also basically putting him as a guard/fight dog, which is putting his life in danger.
Also I'd like to know where I was being disrespectful to others' opinions?
I don't trust him either, he is too manipulater just like the first main character ex that stalk him.
Yanek remind me of him only has a ganster fuck up creep XD
Of course you can trust him and all but.. what you said just make me feel more heavy on my own opinion.
I love Yanek as a character, He would be totally my type or friend if I met him on real life... but He's not good for Diesel, even if his love is real.
what kind of advise is "breake them before they breake you" to a Post-thraumatic patient like Diesel? Yanek is toxic. Even more for an emotionally and psychologically damaged person like Diesel.
When Yanek said "break them before them breake you", i think, that he said, what he really think. For me, this is how Yanek see world by himself. Its rather not, what Diesel should hear, but i think Yanek intensions was good and he try give some own experience to Diesel yo help him.
Yanek realationship with Diesel is to a certain extent destructive, but i think, that what he said in this chapter is honest.
I just read next post. Ehhh... it s quite snowballing.
When i said, that ppl should respect others opinion it wasn t adressed to u or what you said, it was just general thought. Maybe i not emphasize this in good way, but this sentence wasn t direct towards you.
I don t know, why ppl so oft assume bad intension other ppl on forum.
I wasn't assuming bad of you. I was genuinely confused as to how I did so. I didn't want to come off as disrespectful....
That whole thing was unpleasant for both of us, for me, but also for u. I hope, that we just forget about this and we could yet together talk about this manga in future, without bad feelings . Like i said, it was misunderstanding, so we just should move on.
And yet i would try make more attention to how i from my post, cause i won t to force anyone to my opinion.
Agreed.
But... that's exactly our point xD
Yanek is toxic, his relationship with Diesel is destructive (to Diesel) and it won't do any good.
Diesel is embracing him desperatly because He feels it has nothing on the world, He became codependant and Yanek only push him even more to that dark corner.
Yes, Yanek isn't doing it on purpose... but that's the fact. That's what his actions are, aside of his intentions.
You don't date a guy who destroys you emotionally just because his intentions are good.
You cut him up and wish him the best. Even if you love him. It's not sane.
He looks like a really fucked up person, twisted beyond repair.
I don't think he treats Diesel wrongly, BUT a person like that it's not capable of love correctly neither.
Diesel is obviously on a post-traumatic experience, emotionally wrecked and needy. Yanek is the one who saved him, and Yanek want him.
It's natural that Diesel feels the urge of retribution, mixed up with gratitude.
It could belove, It could not be.
BUT it's not totally healthy.
Ein instead is a good person, deep to the core. He truly care for Diesel even if He doesn't even know what's going on and we have seen how much he loves him and care for him. Ein gives that kind of vibes
I felt like Diesel notes it and long for something like that, deep in his heart. But can't even think of not loving his savior. It's something like that.
Why won't you come here and just rip my heart out of it's chest and step on it, Toboso-san?
It would be less painful