Misa_03's Topics (217)

Me too. Idk why but i felt do annoyed when i read this. Is it bc i read this type of story so much that my brain can’t take it anymore?

I thought the same....but i feel that is not the actual case...(￣∇￣")

Idk, but personally the way in which she suddently completly changed is so odd.

Cuz like admitting that you messed up and chaning is tough. I keep thinking, would I be able to do that? And honestly it's very tough. Because we as humans find it hard to admit that we were in the wrong. There is this thing where most people double down.

THAT IS SOOOO TRUEEEE!
evetytime the characters' attitude change i always like....wtf?

Moreover is the attitude of the people that hate her. Like they seriously despise her but when she changes everyone act like they just don’t believe and joke around. Like didn’t u really hate her before? What was that quickly change of attitude????

Indeed, it's super unhuman like and I find it hard to vibe with the character

Ppl here understand me ╥﹏╥

I do not agree with you! they should solve the problem, and I think that if she shows what she can do , and that she has authority in the house think will change and the ml can change too.

What do you expect from the house that even knowing her depression and her family background still did not at least showed some respect as a woman from the empress' family. What u expect from the duke that onlu thought abt son and again knowing her depression just asked "how are u?" When everything was already bad as it is and he stilll blamed her?
Tell me one reason that the duke deserves her? When all he did, is surpassing her in every way possible, again knowing how much intelligence she had besdides her beauty???

Also. SHE TRIED!! NOBODY ALLOWED HER!! Not at least maids, or husband or any ither person, when she tried they all just told her to sit still and do nothing bc she is only needed to raise her son!!

I’m sry but what sorry have u been reading?? From what I saw yes they may have noticed she was “sad” or whatever but no one knew she was depressed she hid that from everyone and didn’t talk about what she was feeling, and it was that guys (Who she asked if she could leave to go out for a bit) fault who told her She didn’t need to do anything and that things would be handled, so in the end she didn’t get more involved in things that went on around the house. It’s not Entirely her fault nor the dukes fault there is a lot of miscommunication in the story they both need to work on, the duke is not a bad man and she isn’t a bad women

I agree. They are bad husband and wife to each other but I still don't believe they are bad people. Also I truly believe they love each other. But the miscommunication is big time in this story lol. For the people hating the male lead so intensely, trust me they would hate the female lead the same way if the story was told from Harshen's POV. That man suffered too you know. He was sent off to a gruesome war even before he was an adult and came back to a dead father and a buttload of responsibilities. On top of that he had no support for his wife. Ofcouse that was because she was going through her own troubles. So i don't hate them both at all. I do believe they will be able to reunite and love each other stronger than ever.

Oh, so then it is very kind of duke to push marriage on his son saying they were married the same way, when they both know that HE choose HER, and SHE knowing that she Choose HIM told that at least normal girl would have suited him. Duke not once actually cared for their son. He just pushed all respinsabilities to the FL and blamed her with every thing, though, we can see from flashbacks she really wished to involve herself but duke did not actually in the beginning listened to her. Not even once, blaming all she wanted was PaRtIEs. And it was at that time, THE FIRST TIME, she asked abt anything from duke, and duke at that time was not in army. So dont joke with me being him at war and taking a lot responsibilities. He is at fault, and only him, for not trying to understand the FL when she needed the most. Also
U are telling me that this whole SIXTEEN YEARS THE ONLY ONE HUMAN STOPPED HER FROM HER WISHES???!?!? THE ONE?!?!? THE KNIGHT!??!?! ooooh, so he was even responsible for operating all the meetings and the responsibilities the duchess should carry?? And that is why not entirely the mansion is at fault and not the duke at fault that though being with her at the same place 24/7 he did not tried to notice what is wrong with her? Ooookay.....
And you know. I thjnk it is you who did not throughoutly analysed the story. Bc she was depressed for reaaaallly long time with her sleeping all the day at her room... like, yeaaahh, nobody notiiiiced that she has been all day along crying in her room....yeaaaah, i believe that.
The duke bot a bad guy, but he still want to be the only victim in this story, bc even when they tried to reconcile all he did, he actually cared for himself, he did not at least tried understand why parties was meaningful to her, but unstead blamed her. And when she were depressed, all he cared after she told she loved him "she is not speaking truth"..like.. HE SHOULD HAVE AAAAAT THE VEEEERY LEAAAAST CARED FOR HE FEELINGS!!! NOT HIS ONLY!!! AT THAT EXACT MOMENT!! Yeah he came to see her, but for me it was only a show with bit feekings, bc he did not truly wanted at that time question HIS actions....yeah the duchess is at some fault too, but at fault for not restraining the duke shuttjng him up so he would listen to her story from the very beginning till the end.

you are talking as if that ERA in 2021.
did you know the reason why the ml remove her from taking care of the son and the house? read cp 25 she was DEPRESSED and the majority of does don't know how to explain the situation
for my self, I think that I was suffering from insomnia for more than 10 years but when I went to school I discovered the symptom of depression and I started to ask my self the cause ( I was shocked for it because I was small when it started)
and believe when there is a person that is depressed everything is difficult you don't know how to explain yourself and what is inside you.
fortunately for this Era, there is a specialist

Firstly i read and even rereaded it 3 times. He still pushed his son to her and came to realise somth is wrong with her when their son was almost from 4 to 6 years. While her depression started when the son was not even 1 year old. And it worsened really bad especially after the qeen miscariage. She would not have been depressed if the husband paid attention to her during meeting too, let aside he did not even worried abt her wishes what she wanted to do for the house. She gained depression only after oppression from husband side and not listening to her feelings, thoughts, and ideas. Even when she told him that she did not trued to understand him, duke did not said anything, but unstead again blamed her for being selfish and he is only upset with the fact "best choice". While she had many reasons to be upset, let aside her worries of husband maybe not loving her anymore bc her beauty faded.
And doctor said she had depression. It is not like everyone did not know at all abt depression.

Well...i think i have written alot...and now i am more calm.
Want to say. I do not consider duke to be the bad guy, but his ignorance irritates me, and how he does not try to understand his wife. While the duchess should have kicked his balls for him to listen to her from beginning till the end. But her words with best choice herted too, but that still can not compare to her suffering, for almost 16 years...

I don't understand what story you are talking about?
we all know that the duke is at falt both of them with their misunderstanding
the father says; is my son is not ok with it he can come to me
you are forgetting that majority of noble get political marriage ( there is a lot of story about it)
you are thinking with the brain of 2021

can you imagine a person with a cold character and a depressed person together?
a cold person doesn't know how to give love, can you tell me the difference between the new character and the ml?

not all of us have the ability to sympathize
if we are in 2021 I will say yes the ignorance is irritating me but not in this situation because there is no knowledge in their society
now we have a lot of knowledge, but not everyone is using it in the right way

I feel like ur blaming her depression solely on the duke and his behavior ;-; when she didn’t really put in any effort to let someone know how she was feeling she didn’t tell him and she didn’t talk to him about, when he asked if she was oki she said she was fine when she should have told the truth about what she was feeling and let’s not forget that she basically abandoned her child to party and make herself feel better. I understand that she needed something to make her feel better but she should have tried to talk to her husband About what ppl was saying to her which she didn’t cuz it hasn’t been said that she has so we don’t know everything and u don’t know what he had to deal with either, not just being duke of a kingdom but war as well and the fact that marrying her no longer makes him Neutral, I’m sure the king and his ppl had a lot to say and do due to that as well so I doubt he’s just been around not doing anything, everyone is just blaming the duke for everything which sucks, I’m so confused to why everyone thinks the the fl has no blame or no fault in everything that has happened in their marriage, marriage takes two ppl and tbh neither one of them really put in any effort in it

Also I think due to the fact that she was turned away by that guy in the first place she didn’t try to get involved again so basically she gave up after the first try ;-;
Also since neither one of them actually tried to talk to the other they didn’t understand each other’s feeling so I can see why he didn’t understand her “need” to party since she has a child and a husband at home, it’s sad from both sides we don’t know what he’s gone through this is just her side of the story not everyone’s, they both need to work on themselves and their family

The last few sentences prove my point that duke actually did not cared abt his son, saying it is okay to marry him to girl, bc he and the duchess had the same situation, when actually through choosimg his loved he shifted sides. Thats first.
The second. She told duke she wanted to go to party, it is him who did not wanted to understand her and said "you should only think of your son" it is always on his mouth "it is your son. It is the only thing you need to do. You can not even have meal with your son." Not about "what i did not do right?" When she thought about "what she did not do right?" And even understood what was wrong with her. When duke did not even consider himself to be the case, only thinking "the best choice". If he trully had thought abt the duchess, then as comprehending best choice should have made smth for her to not go to the second choice as he thought existec. But he did not gived a damn.
And you tell her what was wrong when there almost everything was not right??? Like. She was already on edge. And at the same moment, he even still said "you can not even have a meal???!?! Actually do not bother"!!! He really did not tried understanding her at the very least, and he did not do anything for her to feel better. If he did...what it was??? What nice thing he did to make his wife feel better? When for every question she asked he told smth briefly as "soon will end" "do not worry" or "sorry" ......
I am too, hate girls that make smth lut of nothing without saying, but here we can see how much were pilled up, that actually everyithing was wrong and in depression ppl can cry even without reason bc all pilled up and solvng one problem will not make issue better. That is why i do not blame her for anything. While duke was sane and healthy, could have tried undetsating her, while she did tried understanding the duke (the only mispoke was with "the best choice" thing).
And you blame her for going parties?? When there is actually a nanny and other ppl at home?? Even my mother and all my relatives who gave birth could not handle being tied up to newborn 24/7 for 6 months at least. You are saying you could indure being unsociable 6 months consecutive with only responsibility to care "taking care of a child" without inability to do anything, even involvong at house chores??? At this point at 20 years i think everyone could have gone either insane or depressed.

Well.. here it is already strange that duke did not questioned " why she wants to go there though there is husband and son". And she is weak willed too i admit it. And that was the one fact that kept me irritating. But knowing her character why duke did not involved himself? When she tried even at last chapter to speak with him, all the duke cared abt was not her saying of pitiful past and so on. But abt "best choice". Actually, even before she said that word, when she poured herself in her saying, the duke gaze, you could see was indifferent. As if all she said was not meaningful and understandable. He did not cared abt his wife trully

sorry but where the readers who know her character because we know what is her thought
does who have a political marriage don't know about the other and you can know a person in a short time
can you tell me how can a ml know how the fl grow up?
did you know that the fl was psychological fragile before marring the ml , stress, and responsibility and when your parent didn't ask you what you like to do in the future can also make you feel not in the place especially when they don't ask for your opinion

So... you are telling that the ML just m as rried to FL just bc of her looks? And he actually does not know anything abt her? And still talk to her like he knows everything with "all u want is parties"?
And yes, i do not deny she is fragile psychologically, i did even tried to deny this fact she is fragile. We are questioning duke's deeds. I am telling you he did not tried to understand her, but based on your words, let alone know her - your wife with whom he would have lived an entire of his life....

no, the ml says that he chose her because he was feeling something that he never felt before and didn't know what it, is that why he didn't know that it was love,
out of name and status and the first impression, how can he know a person are we reading the same manga?
how can you dance and talk with a person for a few minutes and you know him/her
is impossible
he was making mistake talking like that to her, but u expect everybody to understand the reason she wants to go to a party when a baby just born'
At the party, she went, what did they say'
the ml says: he just takes over the inheritance, she should wait at least when the baby grows up a little

I do not expect everyone to understand her, but at least on person. Was there anyone who genuinely tried understanding her and supporting her?

Actually, i reaaaally think, that you are just do not want to ad m.j it that duke did not tried understanding her. Bc, no arguments were said on duke's even one action of trying to trully understand her without just appeasing her

I’ve said at least twice that neither of them fully tried to understand each other hence the miscommunication between the two, from what we saw so far she not once till this new life tried to tell him how she was feeling, what was happening nor why she wanted to go to the parties or basically anything tbh and that’s on her he literally meet her once then again and the two got married he didn’t know her and she just knew he was the son of a duke Her “best choice” He didn’t know her and didn’t understand her since he wasn’t around women to be able to just tell those things from a glance. Could he have tried harder yes maybe he could have but I have to understand he was dealing with things of his own his father dying, becoming duke, war, coming back to other family trying to take over we don’t know his side fully at all! All we’ve seen is mainly about her, as for her partying and him taking away her involvement in their son I think it was a bit harsh but I can understand. At that point when he did that she was already becoming distant from her son and no longer caring for him it doesn’t matter if there’s a nanny at home or a house full of ppl that’s her son but it is common in that era to have them care for the child. When the son was born she did take care of him for a bit then suddenly stopped if that was ur wife wouldn’t u think that was strange and ask why do u wanna eat/dance and spend time with these ppl At parties but not ur own child?? He did actually question her she could have told him why, been truthful about her feeling and didn’t! So yes he took away her involvement with their son and she let him ;-; She could have said no but she didn’t, she could have not gone but she did she decided to let her some go he didn’t force her too and let’s not forget that it was shown that she was not an Entirely nice mother either. She came back thinking her marriage was fine but it wasn’t and she’s seeing that so here’s to hoping that they both work together to understand each other and clear up their many mistakes

And it’s not that I don’t like her I just need to see more of their past instead of just supporting her and being on “her side” I want to be able to support them all

the only person who should have to understand her can be her mother, her sister, her brother, or her father who see her grow up
on cp 25 the ml understand what responsibility she has but he was not capable of solving the problem when the ml asked the fl: please tell me what you want me to do, and what you want.
she replays I don't want anything
he makes some mistake but in that ERA he tries to remove all the thing that will make her feel more pressured, but that was not the solution
we that are reading know the solution but is not easy
she was looking for love, going on a date with the ml , taking care of the ml with the ml.
she was not prepared for such a thing

the depression is caused by depression postpartum
and how she was raised
and the situation with the ml worsened the thing
sorry but when u can't explaining yourself but pretend other to understand you, you are asking too much
the ml asked: please tell me what you want me to do and what you want
she didn't know how to reply she says: I don't want anything
is not easy to know the right thing to do for a depressing person

thank's for the comment

His ignorance is due to her not being able to express. No one can help you if you can't reach out. Its the same then. And its the same now. And also the times have changed. Arranged marriages and parents marrying off their kids was very normal.

You are talking as if she ever tried to understand him. She was always in her her own shell of depression that she never even tried to understand Harshen. As I said its both of their faults.

I don't think that's all necessary...XD I think they'd suffer and fight among themselves as commoners and cheat on each other without the magic bit.

They're people who were brought up like rich bonbons and don't know how to survive in real life. Without any skill and connections they'll just end up doing shady things and hating each other.

Brain*

Lmao I'm literally thinking the same thing. Who leaves a prominent child alone. Him getting hit on the head is his only saving grace because it would've looked like he was in the complete wrong other wise

Yeap. True