ngl not sure if its because i have the upper hand since ive delved into danmei novels and so i can understand the setting of the story but still... some of yall are dumb as fuck. like no wonder you just gravitate to the same old colleen-hoover-but-if-the-main-characters-were-men rehashed yaoi story lines romanticizing rape and abuse again and again ctfuuuu yall are so cooked - media literacy and reading comprehension in complete shambles. open up the schools back up.
Finally someone said it lol I thought if I said it alone ppl would attack me
You cooked
Maybe this is the first time for some into danmei novels or not their first language, so being a bit confused can be natural. Thankfully there's many kind people here in the comments explaining so now everyone that's interested can learn.
Books are like food. You know you need something healthy, nutricious and wholesome to feed in the best way possible your body, just like a good book that's insightful, profound and leaving a long lasting impression for your life but sometimes even if its not the best for you, you crave the fast food; simple, delicious and indulgent.
I love cliches, dumb premises and some problematic content. Is not everything I read in my everyday life, I quite love biographies and Latin American magical realism, but sometimes something silly is what I need after a hard day in the real world.
When did anyone mention rape plotlines???
The reason most people don't get it (like me) is because of either translation or if it's their first time reading a ancient trope like this. It could also be because this trope is never fucking explained properly. I have read at least 3-5 other stories with this type of setting and I STILL didn't get wtf Cultivation, or Murim, or the levels meant until I saw a reddit post explaining it all.
Don't be an asshole just cus other people don't comprehend shit like you do
ate this shit is easy to understand idk why everyone’s so stumped by it they’d probably have a brain aneurism trying to read the novels themselves
yeah we can tell u have poor comprehension skills
Lmao you're real for saying that
Welp thanks for adding nothing to the convo
I bet you wouldn't understand shit that's happening in "Cat & Sword" or "Master's Flirting With Me Again!" because they both explain their plotlines so terribly
no i bet i wouldn’t. unfortunately this novel is pretty well written so they are incomparable. thanks for trying!
This MANWHA may be well written, but the fan translation is not, so it doesn't matter how well written it is if people can barely understand it. Also Im pretty sure the majority are still confused. (I'll calculate it if u want me to lol)
I like how instead of trying to help other people by explaining this story in the comments like other sane people here, ya'll both resort to insulting people's intelligence, like that'll help or add anything useful to the convo.
People on this website are hilarious
I think some wonderful people have helped enough in the comments so there's no need to explain the same things again. Also comments are here to express an opinion although I do agree calling readers dumb would be pretty far fetched but it's really not that difficult to understand the general gist of what's going on. It's not like fan translations are the only options here with officials up to date. It's more like some people don't even put any effort in understanding whatever they're reading and just want to complain about a specific arc. Also, no one's obliged to add anything useful to the conversation. Anyone can express their opinion here, just like how those confused readers did
True, which is why there's no point to try to start shit in the comments.
Yeah people can leave their opinions but if that opinion involves insulting others that don't deserve it, I just think there's no reason for them to share it. It's kinda like commenting on a news post for a basketball player who just died and commenting "LEBRON'S BETTER" yeah, they have a right to say that, but it's just really disrespectful and a big target for arguments
Comments like this intentionally hurt people by pointing out that will be painful to the target audience and you fell for it.
I think your example doesn't work here. I mean commenting that on someone's death would be insensitive and morally wrong and we're not discussing that here. I don't think anyone's starting shit here but merely expressing that this is somewhat easy to understand and some people are starting to make a mountain out of a mole hill
Fair enough
Yeah, they got me hook line and sinker
I'm really susceptible to comments like these
this is so fucking cute im gonna disembowel myself and die.
*LOUD INCORRECT BUZZER* WRONG!
not to nerd out in the fucking mangago comment section of all places but that whole bit irks me so bad and clearly the author is kind of an ignorant dipshit about it but i digress.
there have actually been multiple, MULTIPLE records (i.e., scientific articles and books and whatnot) of homosexual/bisexual behaviour amongst animals recorded since the mid-90's, with an article published as recent as october 2023 in the scientific journal Nature regarding the evolution of same sex behaviour found within animals. a scientific paper published in 2019 states that over 1500 species of animals have been observed to have performed same-sex behaviours and that this has been a long-time topic of research and debate amongst evolutionary biologists as this is outright paradoxical to darwinism principles. another book published earlier in 1999 by a canadian biologist recorded same-sex behaviours comprising of sexual, pair-bonding, parental activities, and courtship were recorded in over 450 species of animals worldwide. interestingly enough, this comes with the caveat that although participation in same-sex behaviours is common in the animal world, an exclusively homosexual orientation is a rarity amongst animal species - one example of an animal species that may have been recorded to have exclusively gay orientation aside from humans are sheep, specifically rams!
tldr; if you dont wanna read the word vomit up there about gay animals then just look up the homosexual behaviour in animals page on wikipedia - that shit is detailed AND complete with multiple sources including the aforementioned journal articles and such. all in all theres nothing natural about heterosexuality or unnatural about homosexuality; what is unnatural is homophobia, since it's only found in ONE species - humans.
tldr-tldr; that bit abt it being natural for animals to seek out mates of the opposite sex pissed me awf bad i couldnt even concentrate on the rest of the read n just kept thinking abt it lmfaooo but their problems couldve been solved if they had just a talk abt it i think. idk i didnt give too much of a fuck, this was a mid 2.5/5 read.
Thankyou!!!! This bothered me too for this exact reason. (๑•ㅂ•)و✧
Maybe it was to apply the drama of them not possibly be together for that matter.
... this shit is peak. it's not just peak josei, it TRANSCENDS josei. Art, dynamic, writing - peak all around. No hetero romance will ever come close. idgaf.
You are so fucking right
...but i kinda wanna see him and kobayashi sucking and fucking and making it wet and making it creamy and making it bounce 365 24/7 360 degrees on the floor on the table on the mattress on a bed through the window through the wall making it STINK until people pass out from the stench when they first step into the room.
sorry.
sidenote, chapter 3 made my sides hurt; id actually read that manga fr.
Bye this made me laugh out loud you’re so funny for this.
Sanest mangago reader
Shakespeare could never
haha *through tears* what the fuck? what the fuck
WAURRRRRRRRRR ty for uploading that easter egg compilation like thats one fawking delicious ass meal!!!!!
god i love love LOVEEEE the amount of love and attention to detail that the writer puts in for this work like AUGHHHHH i can tell how much this is a labor of love and a meticulously crafted out story cuz like i kinda caught the whole four leaf clover song thing and the fox ticket "mommy's precious memory" thing, but REN WEI'S LYING TICK BEING HER RUBBING HER FINGERS??? AND THAT WAS HOW YOUZI FIGURED OUT HER UNDERCOVER AGENT IDENTITY?????? AUGJEJDJEJFJRJDJEKDJEKKDKEKD [insert destiny's child so good clown tiktok meme] likeeee lorddddddd i wasn't expecting that at all cause usually little habits and gestures like that aren't included in like these webtoon/comic formats, like i may be wrong cause it's only based on the stuff i read but like. it's usually easier to catch on to like body language clues like these when it's in novels or films/tv shows 'cause it's easier in those mediums to incorporate them in a subtle/low-key way so audience attention isn't going to be drawn towards them - meanwhile, with webtoons/comics, depending on the genre, they don't tend to focus on drawing full body shots unless its like a full on shounen battle in which it's a totally different and incomparable situation with what is shown here, which is trying to include a clue using small gestures. like from what i notice, esp in mangas and webtoons dealing in romance, they tend to close up on the face and emphasize expressions or highlight outfits when drawing full body/beyond the face. there will be cases when they draw a person expressing emotions through their body language - ie arms crossed when feeling hurt/anxious being pretty common - but like in those cases, it becomes pretty obvious to the readers what the gesture is and what it's meant to signify. so like i just wanna really praise the fact that the artist here is able to so seamlessly blend in that detail of ren wei's tick into like the story art and IN A WAY that's subtle and unnoticeable; it's amazing that it comes back in a signifcant way too and is a fucking like,,, led signboard of what youzi actually feels regarding ren wei cuz like DAMN BITCH we didn't even notice that shit!!!! you are actually so down bad for her im actually impressed!!!!!!!!! like through this i can really feel that the author put a lot of care into their characters and their worldbuilding and auvnrjcjejdkek I LOVE SEEING SHIT LIKE THAT.
anw this was a long ass paragraph just to say i love lesbians and i love good storytelling <3
kuran being a sneakerhead lmfaoooooo so butch-coded i neeeeed someone like her...
that aside i love how down-to-earth and realistic the characters are?!?!! like the author really nailed their personalities and was able to really include the small little intricacies that made it apparent that they are lgbt like they ping off my gaydar BADDD but tbf gl does a good job of having like, that "by gays for gays" kinda atmosphere/aura/quality, aside from the ones made by straight men for the male gaze which are obvious at first glance... i'll always be pleasantly surprised by the quality and overall superiority of gl compared to bl like you can tell these characters are GAY PEOPLE instead of weird fetishized caricatures... this manga just seems so much more so "by gays for gays" though, like the characterization and writing really nailed it! like these two really seem like regular old oomf 1 and oomf 2 on a gay person's twitter tl you feel me... like kuran being a weird girl who's a born hater and enjoys infodumping??? ichiko being a fluffy cute introverterted girlcringe who's into cute things and wants to jump on tiktok trends????? i feel right at home with them LMFAO in fact i see myself jn kuran minus the sneakerhead part LOL anw point in case is this manga really captured the quintessential modern gay teen girl experience and i marvel at how crazy it is that these things can feel so universal like idk i think it's beautiful that even with cultural language and national barriers the shared lgbt experience can bring gay people together no matter where they come from (shrug emoji)
final note but i also think it's cool that the manga is inundated with neat little trivia info like it was cool learning how subcultures came to be and how air jordans got so popular... we love you infodumping weird girl kuran never stop being you!!!
my comfort bl forreal...... i love my married couple... pixiu and wen xi need to scooch over actually let me join yalls relationship cuz god knows i'll never find anything close </3.
i love their relationship so so much actually... love my wifeguy pixiu like yeah wifeguy you go wifeguy!!! he's so whipped it's lovely <33
on a more serious note i fucking love this manhua so much yall dont understand it's so warm and fluffy and comforting but beyond that it's actually so GOOD and the characters are so charming and well-written like the characters actually have distinct personalities!! actual drives, ambitions, and motivations!!! GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT!!!!! very basic elements in writing that is unfortunately so massively lacking in the webtoon scene that we cheer nonetheless for their presence here, especially since it's all well-executed!!
also i can tell just how much love and care the author pours into this story, especially into her characters like i can tell she crafted them so lovingly and had a lot of fun doing so like idk guys i can feel the author's enjoyment in creating and crafting her story with her little characters just radiating from this webtoon i hope this webtoon goes on for a long time cuz the characters are so terribly dear to me now id genuinely be so sad to part with them
damn 50 chapters of this dude being a complete total homophobic piece of shit who disrespects and insults garam, is selfish all around, acts manipulative and is basically so pushy and borderline coercive with wanting to fuck him but the minute there's like... 6 extra chapters of him doing that intersparsed with him feeling fucking sorry for himself and moping around ya'll clap your pathetic little hands together and cheer for this nothing ass "redemption arc" CTFUUU like mind you yjh is still doing what he wants, still acting selfishly, blames garam for not wanting to spend time together despite being a total fucking douchebag to him the entire time, and completely disregards his wish for yjh to leave him alone (yea sure we get insight into his pov n see that he still has lingering feelings or wtv the fuck for yjh but YJH doesnt KNOW that... from his pov garam is pissed asf at him n doesnt wanna have anything to do with him n rightfully so) but now that we can see glimpses into his thoughts n see that he feels kinda bad abt being an asshole for 6 chapters yall start magically absolving his bullshiterry for the past 50 chapters. like literally the chapter prior to him offering to drive garam up to his mom, yjh was still acting n thinking delusionally, refusing to fucking grow up n mature fot his own fucking sake but instead being all fucking calculating, internally outright admitting to dismissing garam's words, and still fucking insulting him like LORD! if yall folded this quickly for this pathetic sad excuse of a fucking man then i pray to all the gods across all religions that these men flow straight into all of yalls waiting hands so normal people dont have to fucking deal with these men's bullshit like PLEASEEE shovel these shit ass men towards these wack ass mangago readers because evidently the market is there and it is here with these freaks lord spare us these losers and let normal ppl get together with normal men and let the ones who want men like these be the one to deal with the baggage manipulation n disrespectful treatment
Have some forgiveness in you diva.
Id be mad if the author nor Garam didn’t recognise the absurdity of his behaviour(like in most of mangas that come out these days)But they do sooo.
Take a deep breath the whole point of most BL was to make it shaky at first then fluff at the end. It is how you attract audiences most of the time. You act like he wasn't mad at him in the beginning until now
THIS LIKE TO DISLIKE RATIO IS CRAZYYY
I liked it unintentionally
the way you actually wrote so much
crazy how if you didnt like it, you could just leave and not read this anymore, but the fact that you ACTUALLY spent so much effort to wrote that ML hate speech LMAOO
You so right for this. The people who disliked your comment proved your point entirely.
The reason I disliked it wasn't because they weren't correct, or that they wished horrible men upon others...I disliked it because the story isn't even close to finished and they're acting like people getting excited about a "redemption arc" or the signs of self-reflection (which will always be selfish btw) <- something we can all agree rarely happens in BLs these days -> is stupid, deplorable, pathetic behaviour?!?
Arent we supposed to allow people to grow and change? Aren't we supposed to be happy when people try do right by the people they've hurt? Or are we supposed to be jaded like the OP until it makes us miserable? Just asking for a friend...
I mean, it is a redemption arc???? Idk what you wanna see atp because yeah he did act like an asshole at the start, even I hated his guts during early chapters, but he truly did change. He went from being the most homophobic douchebag ever, and is trying to become and make the best version of himself for a guy. Sure, he didn’t listen to Garam’s words and didn’t respect Garam’s boundaries, but have you SEEN desperate people who’re in love/in denial about being in love? They still stick to you after all that’s happened because they can’t stand the thought of letting you go, there are times where those people aren’t willing to change and are still not respecting the boundaries of the person they like but yjh is willing to do so. He’s willing to change himself, to do the things Garam wants to do, to be there at Garam’s side because he wants to be with Garam. Looking back at the person he was before and the person he’s starting to become now, it’s very obvious that he wants to be with Garam as a romantic partner because he doesn’t want their relationship to be only about sex anymore. He wants to build their relationship, and he wants to spend his life with the person he loves (Garam). And if that still doesn’t convince you, take Jinx as an example for redemption arcs. Jinx is also 50+ chapters in and there has been no change with his aggressive behavior towards Dan. Thank you for reading this long paragraph I typed out ヾ(❀╹◡╹)ﾉ~
Sooooo.....
Your mad????
LOL!
What I find laughable AND pathetic is how your degrading people based on a manwha. Like are you fuckn serious?!? You and anyone agreeing with you in terms of insulting other readers and commentors are the pea-brains here. I don't know what life experiences you've had to trigger you so badly that you have to stoop to such a low because you disagree with others right of their own perspectives. You can love YJH or hate him but don't push your ignorance off on others. They deserve what little happiness they can get by being entertained by some redemption arc. Just because it's not what you want it to be doesn't matter. You should have enough common sense not to make your dissatisfaction into everyone's unhappiness. Learn the difference between reality and make believe. (︶︿︶)＝凸
i ain't reading all that. im happy for you tho, or sorry that happened.
whoa so many of u pressed at this! :O u know idrgaf cuz to me all of u r just people living in my phone who ceases to exist the minute i exit this website but if u RLY wanna hurt my feelings then id be so so so SAD if yall came together as a group to hate on BTS the well known kpop group </3 like so so sad guys like it'll hurt my feelings real bad #borahae
alternatively, if u want to hurt my feelings real bad to the point i stop commenting entirely n kill myself forever feel free to pay me 5000 usd <3 this will make me so sad so feel free to hmu n cut a deal with me in order to get me to stop yapping <3
in the meantime tho all of u r incel freaks who amount to nothing and dickride the middest man to ever exist when u can simply experience everything garam has gone through by talking to any random man in ur nearest walmart <3 #fuckyjh
People have different opinions?? Everyone here has their own opinions, including you. Since you dgaf then it’s whatever! Like you said, we’re all just random people at the end of the day and it’s your choice to like it or not. I made a reply to just fact check but there was no ill intent behind my reply, I’m just a random ass person who also wants to comment what I wanna comment lol. Also, no one wants to you kys or anything. If people came at me like this, I would also be upset. Nevertheless, nobody should attack people by making unnecessary mean comments, we should all respect each other’s opinions at the end of the day. I respect what you think about yjh, I hope you’ll also understand how I feel about yjh by reading the paragraph I typed out up there. Have a great day, toodles! (≧∀≦)
Also, I check your topics about other stories and your takes are great! Sure, I might disagree with some of them, but you clearly have your own opinions and did your own research. (๑•ㅂ•)و✧
ROFLMAO! So again....you seem REAL mad. I stand by what I initially said and just like the other person said before me, you can hate the fictional characters and talk shit about them all you want but it ain't cool disrespecting others wishing bad on them because they have their own opinions about a what? FICTIONAL CHARACTER. Point blank! Idgaf if you don't agree. I said it and I stand by that.
If you post disrespectful comments about reader's whom are entitled to their own opinions, then expect to be replied to. If you don't like it then check yourself or expect these types of responses to your post.
I was bored so I responded to your reply roflmao. It is what it is ┑(￣Д ￣)┍
I'm done speaking my piece. ヾ(❀╹◡╹)ﾉ~