ari September 15, 2019 1:22 pm

Reposting this thought of mine (it was a reply to a comment originally) because I see a lot of people thinking Haru is just a rebound and Akihiko’s feelings for him is sudden:

For me personally, Akihiko shows a bias for Haruki in really tiny ways. It’s in how he always touches his hair, how he notices things about Haruki, and how before the assault, he always tries to show how cool he is to Haruki. He says it himself at one point that he doesn’t want Haruki to see his bad side. And then he fucks up BADLY and he ends up showing Haruki his WORST side because he’s an idiot, and the only thing that salvaged their relationship is because Haruki’s too good to kick him out and live on the streets. And then from that point on they’re living together and they see the sides of the other person they didn’t want them to show. Reread the chapter where the two of them stay up so late playing music that they walk home, when they get home the framing is that Aki looks at Haru’s tired and sleepy face and then his body language is suddenly awkward. To me this reads as Aki realizing that “oh shit, I think I love this person”. Given’s mangaka didn’t have Aki say his feelings out loud in moments like this but it’s the things that are unsaid about their relationship but you still see in their actions that I can’t help but notice.

ari August 23, 2019 9:13 am

I’m in the minority here but I actually find the characters and relationships in this series to be very interesting. The author makes it very clear that these aren’t morally good people, and that they’re selfish and will do stupid and terrible things out of their own selfish desires. Hyungdo knows he can’t trust Gyung, and that he’s a liar and doesn’t truly return his feelings, but he’s so starved for affection and so attracted to him that he’ll forgive the abuse and is fine if Gyung’s words are a lie. Gyung meanwhile is extremely affected by Hyungdo. He wants him so badly he’ll do anything to have him. And it seems to me that he does feel something sincere for Hyungdo, but because of his standing and position and all around belief that people are objects to be used, he still treats Hyungdo like a prized sex doll. The series definitely warranted its title of “Down and Dirty” and I am actually really interested on how things will develop.

    Amineko August 23, 2019 9:35 am

    yes. yes yes yes.
    finally. a good comment. I agree 100%. We all know what to expect more or less from this comic, and obviously, it is not fluff. But at the same time, characters are complex enough to make the actual development more unpredictable than one might assume.
    and yes again. relationships are interesting and not black and white at all. I just hope the author will not waste the potential it has.

    lunaiddd August 23, 2019 10:44 am

    We all here to get mad at characters fjfjnf
    The authors last work was nice and bittersweet with a good ending. This may be different andfrustrating but its interesting neveryheless
    But im wondering why that guy hyundo rejected is here. Is he gonna be also a romantic interest? He wasnt shown much....

ari August 12, 2019 5:33 am

I hate McQueen’s name because it reminds me of Lightning McQueen from Cars. Kachow.

ari July 26, 2019 2:07 pm

It's weird that people think Akitora loves Rogi more than Anesan. Like, yeah, he loves Rogi, but what makes you think he loves him more or less than his wife? Or that he doesn't love his wife at all? People are capable of loving more than one person, and it seems to me that Akitora is just greedy and wants to have everyone he loves by his side lol

I really want to know what caused Akitora to hate Rogi and not interact with him anymore for decades, and why Rogi hated how Tatsuyuki's eyes reminded him of Anesan. Like a lot of people, I really believe he's involved with Anesan's death (maybe he didn't directly cause it, but he was at least involved somehow). That's the only reason I can think of that Akitora would forever cut ties with him, because right now it looks like Akitora would forgive him for most things.

    Lore September 3, 2019 11:20 pm

    This is an interesting take!! I actually forgot that Anesan died 7 years later, and that made me so sad she was so cool :( I completely agree that people can love more than one person, but akitora is really a dick for doing that to his wife in the way that it's not something they talk about, not an agreement, a consensus or something like that, it's just pure greediness from akitora and anesan has to tolerate him and that's why ppl are mad and think the worst of him lmao (righteously so might I add lol) I just basically repeated what you said lmao your comment was really an eye opener for me, have a nice day!!

    ari September 5, 2019 1:29 am
    This is an interesting take!! I actually forgot that Anesan died 7 years later, and that made me so sad she was so cool :( I completely agree that people can love more than one person, but akitora is really a d... Lore

    Since Anesan was previously a prostitute and since she knows the immorality of the yakuza world, I think she clearly understood what she was getting into when she married Akitora. I really do think Akitora loves her, but he’s greedy and also wants Rogi so he’ll take Rogi because he can. It sucks to see an amazing woman like her putting up with this treatment, but it also shows how strong she is so she’s really my favourite character!

    It’s so funny how this is a BL and yet what I don’t really care that much about Rogi/Akitora as a romantic pairing, I just want to know why they break up and what happened to Anesan.

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