Wow i was not expecting that but whatever just happened i live for it
AND THE ART IS SO GOD DAMN BEAUTIFUL
Okay SO
Chanwoo has experienced a shit ton of toxic relationships. Ones where he's probably restricted and his partner makes him do what he wants. So chanwoo doesn't have have a full understanding of BDSM and the use of safewords. Safewords are there for both parts of the relationship that they are in. When one of the partners gets uncomfortable thats when a safeword is used. Because in BDSM it's hard to distinguish when to stop so having a clear word/phrase helps each person to understand when they have crossed the line. Now because chanwoo hasn't experienced this he doesn't use the safeword and that can be extremely dangerous for both of them. Chanwoo can get seriously hurt and MD wouldn't know about this. MD is doing a really risky thing here but he knows what he is doing. Hes recognised the dangerously submissive behaviour of chanwoo and is trying to put him in an uncomfortable situation but always letting him know he can stop when he wants. Lets say this didn't happen and MD and chanwoo carried on BDSM practice and chanwoo got hurt. This can have mental and physical effects and it must be avoided in all costs. MD is teaching chanwoo the rules of BDSM how both of them are equals. Although it seems far it is more better than chanwoo getting seriously hurt. You can tell that MD knows what hes doing because of the smirk in the restaurant. While BDSM may seem violent to some. It's not and it evolves around rules and consent. It is an extremely safe type of play when all rules are in place and known by each partner involved. Like i said chanwoo doesn't know these rules due to toxic relationships and this could lead to grave aftereffects. I could be wrong, this is all an interpretation just don't attack me for it
1) So what was that mean smirk in restaurant? You say he only wants to help.
2) So the best way to learn sub the importance of limits is making him participate in some questionable threesome, when he just get really hurt? And humiliate him even more. Slap him as his abusive ex bfs? It's really the best method? I doubt it. It's risky and can really quickly get out of control. MD is not god. He is only human.
MD is pushing chanwoos limits to get him to say the safeword like i said it's risky but sitting him down and telling him it's fine ect ect probably wont solve the emotional abuse hes gotten from his ex's if this doesn't happen then chanwoo could just get more involved in more toxic relationships without knowing how or when to say no. MD hadn't done it and left him there helpless he says that chanwoo can leave if he doesn't like it so chanwoo isn't being forced but that doesn't mean he wants to do it. Thats what MD is trying to do make him say the safeword because he doesn't like it, rather than making him go along with it. The reason why Chanwoo is saying no is because he fears rejection. It's not the best way and i do wish there was another way the author handled it but calling it abuse is a bit too far like i said this is only an interpretation, MD can be a total asshole for all we know
I agree with all your points, but if that is the case Chanwoo should not be in a bdsm relationship at all. It is irresponsible for a dom to continue their relationship, knowing full well their sub isnt ready and isnt capable of following protocol. I suppose it is best for Chanwoo to learn at the hands of MD rather than some rando stranger that might not give a fuck and actually kill him in the process. At least MD has some type of limit as shown in ch 87. But he still allowed his personal feelings to get in the way.
Definetly agree with the personal feelings getting in the way and i hope MD learns to not let his selfishness control him. I just hope that if chanwoo truly 100% want to do BDSM he sits down and learns about it rather than through trial and error...
Rather than making him understand his limit, I think this is about MD trying to make Chanwoo jealous and corner him, so he agrees to a relationship ..
That could be the case I'm trying to keep open minded and look at all the interpretations for what is happening i hope the author makes it clear soon
I hope so too and i would actually prefer your option l, cuz that would mean that MD really cares for Chanwoo and isn't an manipulative asshole
The problem is he KNOWS that Chanwoo won't leave and refuse...
Firstly as I said the smirk was a red flag.
And what he is doing right now is dangerous and can backfired. Chanwoo can get really hurt.
Seriously for me this method is just wrong even if he wanted to help him. Especially because he is in fragile mindset after being used and rejected by other sub. It's seriously not the best time to do that.
W8... But didn't MD literally said that if Chanwoo will refuse and use safe word. ..he won't be his sub? How is it helping him to use the word? Now he will go beyond his limits not to say it...
I understand what you mean lets just see how the story plays out for now
I think he could be teaching him that saing no doesn't mean the end of the world or the end of a relationship like i explained. The reason why he says no is because of his fear of rejection. At some point chanwoo could say no and MD would be ok with it and chanwoo realises that saying no is ok. Or this is at least what I'd like to see yij my opinion
Interesting post, but I think you give MD too much credit. The strangling scene was crazy - I think that's where I as a reader (and BDSM enthusiast) noticed that something feels really off. I dunno, I just feel bad for Chanwoo. He tries to live his life wild, young, and free, but he attracts the shittiest men.
Perhaps I just feel sorry for both of them at this point, chanwoo being in shity relationships, MD not having a good grasp on his emotions. I'm holding out for it to get better and for the character development. I trust the author because of how the main relationship turned out.
I don't know. For me it's super dangerous and irresponsible. I agree to disagree. For me this method is unacceptable. Entering the play with some ulterior motives is bad.
And I still feel after the smirk it's also revange matter.
I think you are correct, this was no longer teaching him the limit but rather cornering chanwoo and forcing him to this relationship. scary
Then it's settled we both have different interesting interpretations and it's been interesting to hear your side of what you took on im glad to have got to known what someone else sees. Lets just pray for a happy ending for them both
I agree! It seems to me that Chanwoo didn’t want the kiss, but he had to go along with it and since Chanwoo been in a lot of toxic relationship he don’t know the difference between BDSM and Real relationship maybe ? and mind in fact he just got humiliated infringe of MD but Md still wanted to smack him I understand that he has to follow the rules but I felt the slap was a lil personal?
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Glad i have a friend there already ಥ‿ಥ
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I love how it goes from *insert white haired boys name* being told someone's trying to kill him to lil mo being teased by he tian love it
There was something about this manga that I just hated, i just cant come to like it
Harada is probably one of my favourite authors yeah sure their work is fucked but it has a lot of plot, great art and an amazing revenge story. theres no washing over it, not sugar coat. No oh they were raped but lets move on. I love the karma that the antagonists get. I'm glad that theres manga that doesn't paint a pretty picture of a relationship. Because there are so many toxic ones. Harada has done it again! Another masterpiece! ♡
Yep. Harada is fucking amazing ♡
Rip the follow miss kohaku trio
Well... their crotches already are RIPped;D.
First of all that man is one lucky guy and second I'd do anything for someone with big tiddies like those damm tbh I'd want some for myself come on sharing is caring i think we all want moobs hand some over