Omg that mf better come back as the new Kunigami or else I'm actually dropping this shit bro this is the most dramatic I been. I won't believe it until that mf cross that door
Reading the novel and knowing how it gonna turn out is literally my fav. I love this novel sm
Ain’t no fucking way y’all are seriously agreeing with what Ash did. Like, let’s be real and break this down.
> “Ash literally says that Lyle can still propose. Nothing was ruined.”
Yeah, he can still propose but the effort Lyle put into planning a thoughtful, genuine proposal was completely disregarded. Having to blurt it out just to stop an uncomfortable situation doesn’t just “reset” because there’s a second chance. The whole point of a proposal is that it’s meaningful, genuine, and given freely not something dragged out under emotional pressure. Just because Ash said, “you can still propose later,” doesn’t mean the emotional impact of the original moment isn’t tainted. You can’t just pretend that a uncomfortable situation didn’t happen because there’s a redo option. I understand that in later chapter there ACTUAL proposal was cute and etc but that still doesn't excuse what Ash did. Do not overlook this as a simple "he say sorry and Lyle was okay with it too" no tf he was not. U can tell he was uncomfortable and didn't wanna be put in that situation.
> “He apologized for forcing it out.”
And? An apology doesn’t erase the consequences of his actions. Apologizing is the absolute bare minimum after you make someone feel cornered and uncomfortable. The issue isn’t whether he apologized, it’s that he shouldn’t have needed to in the first place. A genuine partner doesn’t ignore repeated signs of hesitation or discomfort just to satisfy their own timeline or desires. The apology doesn’t fix the fact that Lyle was clearly not ready, clearly hesitant, and clearly emotionally overwhelmed in that moment. Even when they were at the sex toy shop or whatever Lyle was clearly uncomfortable and didn't wanna be there.
> “He’s going to give Lyle another chance to propose properly.”
Again, that doesn’t address the root of the issue. This isn’t just about “letting Lyle try again.” It’s about the fact that Ash already crossed a major emotional boundary. Throughout the story, Lyle has often gone along with things he wasn’t totally okay with, just because Ash was. That’s a pattern, and it speaks volumes. Consent and comfort should never be based on someone else’s enthusiasm. A proposal should be something that both people are emotionally ready for, not something squeezed out through guilt, pressure, or whatever.
> "Other point, we can't forget that Lyle could have use the safe word"
"Lyle could’ve used the safe word" is such a dismissive take. Just because someone technically has an way out doesn’t mean they feel safe or empowered enough to use it especially when they’re overwhelmed or if there with someone they care about. Safe words are there to protect consent during mutual play, not to excuse one partner for blatantly ignoring the other’s discomfort and boundaries. Using a safe word should never be seen as the only line between "okay" and "not okay." The fact that someone hasn’t used it doesn’t automatically mean they’re okay, it means they might be too overwhelmed to speak up, too scared, or simply don’t feel they can. It was literally fucking seen with lyle crying and asking ash to stop. A healthy partner picks up on subtle cues, reads the emotional landscape, and respects boundaries without needing a sign that says "stop." That’s not a failure on Lyle’s part; it’s a failure on Ash’s for putting him in that position in the first place. Ash should’ve been more aware and considerate, not pushing him into an uncomfortable situation just because HE was ready.
Stop excusing Ash’s behavior because he said sorry. If he really cared, he would’ve stopped the second he saw how distressed Lyle was. That’s what love looks like, not forcing a moment and cleaning it up after. And the fact that the author completely glossed over that violation by having them immediately jump into a sex scene afterward? Tone-deaf as hell. It sends the message that discomfort and emotional pressure can be smoothed over with sex and a half-hearted “sorry,” and that’s not okay.
This was supposed to be a comfort manhwa something warm, tender, and respectful. Instead, it turned into a story where boundaries doesnt matter anymore and the fandom just shrugs because the ML is hot and said “sorry.”
Be so fucking for real.
I'm just gonna hope that it end like "Do You Still Like Me?" And wait until there enough chapter bc rn it's not good
Ain’t no fucking way y’all are seriously agreeing with what Ash did. Like, let’s be real and break this down.
> “Ash literally says that Lyle can still propose. Nothing was ruined.”
Yeah, he can still propose but the effort Lyle put into planning a thoughtful, genuine proposal was completely disregarded. Having to blurt it out just to stop an uncomfortable situation doesn’t just “reset” because there’s a second chance. The whole point of a proposal is that it’s meaningful, genuine, and given freely not something dragged out under emotional pressure. Just because Ash said, “you can still propose later,” doesn’t mean the emotional impact of the original moment isn’t tainted. You can’t just pretend that a uncomfortable situation didn’t happen because there’s a redo option. I understand that in later chapter there ACTUAL proposal was cute and etc but that still doesn't excuse what Ash did. Do not overlook this as a simple "he say sorry and Lyle was okay with it too" no tf he was not. U can tell he was uncomfortable and didn't wanna be put in that situation.
> “He apologized for forcing it out.”
And? An apology doesn’t erase the consequences of his actions. Apologizing is the absolute bare minimum after you make someone feel cornered and uncomfortable. The issue isn’t whether he apologized, it’s that he shouldn’t have needed to in the first place. A genuine partner doesn’t ignore repeated signs of hesitation or discomfort just to satisfy their own timeline or desires. The apology doesn’t fix the fact that Lyle was clearly not ready, clearly hesitant, and clearly emotionally overwhelmed in that moment. Even when they were at the sex toy shop or whatever Lyle was clearly uncomfortable and didn't wanna be there.
> “He’s going to give Lyle another chance to propose properly.”
Again, that doesn’t address the root of the issue. This isn’t just about “letting Lyle try again.” It’s about the fact that Ash already crossed a major emotional boundary. Throughout the story, Lyle has often gone along with things he wasn’t totally okay with, just because Ash was. That’s a pattern, and it speaks volumes. Consent and comfort should never be based on someone else’s enthusiasm. A proposal should be something that both people are emotionally ready for, not something squeezed out through guilt, pressure, or whatever.
> "Other point, we can't forget that Lyle could have use the safe word"
"Lyle could’ve used the safe word" is such a dismissive take. Just because someone technically has an way out doesn’t mean they feel safe or empowered enough to use it especially when they’re overwhelmed or if there with someone they care about. Safe words are there to protect consent during mutual play, not to excuse one partner for blatantly ignoring the other’s discomfort and boundaries. Using a safe word should never be seen as the only line between "okay" and "not okay." The fact that someone hasn’t used it doesn’t automatically mean they’re okay, it means they might be too overwhelmed to speak up, too scared, or simply don’t feel they can. It was literally fucking seen with lyle crying and asking ash to stop. A healthy partner picks up on subtle cues, reads the emotional landscape, and respects boundaries without needing a sign that says "stop." That’s not a failure on Lyle’s part; it’s a failure on Ash’s for putting him in that position in the first place. Ash should’ve been more aware and considerate, not pushing him into an uncomfortable situation just because HE was ready.
Stop excusing Ash’s behavior because he said sorry. If he really cared, he would’ve stopped the second he saw how distressed Lyle was. That’s what love looks like, not forcing a moment and cleaning it up after. And the fact that the author completely glossed over that violation by having them immediately jump into a sex scene afterward? Tone-deaf as hell. It sends the message that discomfort and emotional pressure can be smoothed over with sex and a half-hearted “sorry,” and that’s not okay.
This was supposed to be a comfort manhwa something warm, tender, and respectful. Instead, it turned into a story where boundaries doesnt matter anymore and the fandom just shrugs because the ML is hot and said “sorry.”
Be so fucking for real.
Woah. Idk how to feel but that felt like the worst proposal ever. I’m not hating on the MC, but the ML’s actions totally ruined it. I get that he wanted the MC to try new things, but the fact that the MC clearly wasn’t ready and even had to spilled out the secret that was supposed to be said at a special moment just made me gross out. Like it felt he said it bc the ml wouldn't stop so he had to spilled the secret. It completely killed the vibe, and now it doesn’t even feel like a comfort manhwa to me anymore.
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Bro I ain't never seen a mc that is that whipped for the ml like he worse than reo in bl
Bro if u fucking like him or is obsessed with him this much why tf are you acting like a fucking child
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If this ojisan don't stop preying on youngling LMAOOO
Nagi focus on the damn ball !!! stop thinking about reo you gay ass
I'm hoping that the translator continues this bc I love it so much
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Is there any similar art like this? I really like the art style
Can you recommend a manhwa where the mc is overworked, stressed to the point of breaking, and struggling with poverty? Hoping to find smt similar to me rn