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IKR!!! Notes from author Asou-san are funny! ε=ε=(ノ≧∇≦)ノ

Lol. Your comment is epic!

i totally agree with u :'(

I always blame the married party, since they are the one betraying theirhusband/wife. The mistress is also at fault though if they knew about it... I don't understand those kinds of situations at all, get a divorce ffs!

I agree. I hope I do not come across as condoning the mistress, because that's not my intention at all. Like you, I do think that both are to blame, but there are degrees of blame, and I found that the blame is disproportionately placed on the mistress, while often times the cheating married person is painted as a poor piece of furniture being stolen :)

There's this other manga too, the one recently posted, can't remember which one. About the coercion victim and his boyfriend. And it raises some interesting discussion about how difficult it was for threatened victims to come forward etc...

Ah, I wish I have eloquence. I apologize for not making sense. :(

i understand the sentiment.. takes two to tango.. yeah.. can't put all the blame to the 3rd party.. yeah.. but the reason is very clear why the mistress gets the blame even though both the cheating bastard of a husband and the 3rd party are at fault..
SIMPLE:
YOU DID IT WITH A MARRIED MAN.. of course no matter who see it.. no matter how you rationalize it that you're really not that committed to the adultery.. or no matter how you shout that both you and the husband are at fault..
YOU SLEPT WITH A MARRIED MAN.. that's already OWNED, man!!! that lollipop BELONG to someone.. LICKING THE LOLLIPOP while the owner is away is plain disgusting..!! no matter how wonderful the taste..

Well, in my opinion they are both at fault here.. Its really sad that they have to hurt other people by doing adultery. If they want to e together why not end his marriage then go out with the uke. I know its not always that easy but you always have a choice.

?? The spouse is NOT an inanimate object. You don't just STEAL people away. There's no such thing unless you tie them down and fuck them.

Nobody OWNS anyone. You don't get to OWN people just because you're married. Your analogy itself is frankly disgusting.

The uke owes the wife and Takuto nothing. The uke is single and you don't even know what his values on marriage are. Not everyone gives a fuck about your marriage vows and THEY ARE NOT OBLIGATED TO. They DO NOT HAVE TO CARE about the vows YOU and YOUR SPOUSE made. That contract is YOURS. The fault lies in YOU.

The person who has to fucking care about YOUR VOWS are the people who made them aka you and your spouse. Not some stranger. That stranger has no obligation to your marriage. That person may not even believe or care about marriage.

DO NOT ASK THE 3RD PARTY TO CARE ABOUT A MARRIAGE THE MAN(the seme) DOES NOT EVEN FUCKING CARE ABOUT. He does not have to. Your beliefs about marriage are your own, fucking lollipop or whatever.

But the uke did not sign any contract saying he can't touch the man if the man is willing and wants it. His only obligation is to not rape the man against his will because that's a basic human right. Your marriage though? That's YOUR contract and nobody else's. Nobody has to care about it. And you can't force people to.

I get what you mean. But don't you think there's also something like a social proprietary thing that doesn't let the 3rd party get away scot-free.

Let's say in a business environment. You are an amazing employee of Company A. You have a contesct with Company A that prohibits you from working for any other company, even unrelated companies in an unrelated industry, not even part time. You are, for lack of a better term, monogamously married to Company A.

From stage right came a headhunter for Company B. Maybe even the owner of Company B itself. Company B wants to headhunt you because you are an exceptional employee. You also think that Company B is top of the line and very desirable. Maybe you have always wanted to work for Company B; it was the company that inspired you to work in the industry in the first place, maybe.

Most people would resign first from Company A, with the one month notice and letters and so forth. For lack of a better term, getting a divorce from Company A. But there are also people who kept the headhunting a secret and continue to work at Company A while working at Company B also. For whatever reason. Maybe there's an unfinished project, maybe this person just like financial security. Maybe this person just wants to not let go. Etc. Until finally Company A finds out one day and cuts off your contract and you get a penalty.

Company B's headhunter is not wrong legally, but headhunting employees is sort of frowned upon isn't it? The courtesy is for Company B to urge you to resign from A before joining B.

The one that gets the penalty here is the "married person", the employee. Because the employee worked at two places even if the contract with A says the employee can't. In a divorce maybe the adulterer spouse cannot get alimony or have to pay alimony.

Company B is not wrong, but still frowned upon by the business society. Much like the mistress is not wrong, but is still frowned upon in society to meddle with a married person without waiting.

And?

So what if its frowned upon? He still isn't to be blamed. You are talking in terms of getting society's hate. But the society's hate is illogical and misplaced in the first place. Why are we putting society expectations above all else? Why are you defining yourself through society? Unless you are directly harming someone, then why should you care?