This webtoon is quite good, but it seems to lack some of the most important things I love in acting novels, webtoons or mangas. The MC has no rivals, the mc doesn't struggle despite being a beginner, the mc is too OP and he's too lucky. Everything he does always works out for him in the end because he can see the pollens.
I thought this webtoon would be similar to Glass mask or Act age where the MC is a genius but still faces equally genius competitors (like Maya had Ayumi as her rival or Kei had Chiyoko as her rival) but it's not like that and that's alright! Maybe I'll check out the novel later to see if it will remain this way
I don't know why, but I feel disappointed somehow. I think a more appropriate ending would've been better. It feels like nihilism for the sake of nihilism and It feels hopeless.
Also it's not realistic, It feels like it's trying to appear edgy. People die and there's no reaction from the outside world. MC and ML continue to live happily while committing mass murder by saying there will only be more rumors while leaving the house. They think no one will file a missing person report or report them even though ML used to live in that same house and MC knows the people that died? What gives them that confidence?
The story implies that no good people survives and the only happy people in this world are happy because they stole the happiness from others, which is not true for many people in this world! They're just making things up to make it appear hopeless!
The fact that many innocent people died for no reason also...(the cinema guy, the phone carrying stranger). Was that also because of MC and ML's malice? If that's so then they're not so weak and good, instead they're evil and psychopaths. Taejun (the mc) says that If it was (hyun-ju), his friend maybe she wouldn't be swallowed by her own self because she's not as weak as them and that made me think...that a lot of the explanations were skipped in this webtoon.
If black mirror is the inner self of people then why should hyun-ju's self be filled with malice? It could be that only MC and ML's black mirror are filled with malice because that's their true inner self!
Anyway It feels like a bad ending in a visual novel game.
It has all the traits of a bad ending - skipped explanation, doomed world/surroundings, acceptance of the unknown(bad outcome).
Also why did the mirror choose them? Why is their malice considered the strongest? Because they're special?
It says at the end that every people has their own black mirror...even if that's true then why can only they control the world with it, even killing people? It they wanted to give that explanation then their parents could've been chosen because of their malice too!
There could be more than two people who can control the black mirror because of that explanation but still only two of them can control the black mirror...and the story ends with them saying everyone has their own black mirror blahblah. Another thing that I don't understand is why are both MC and ML considered essentially the same being that are whole because of each other? Their body morph as one near the end...Are they even themselves? They don't look like human for sure, it's more probable for them to be the mirror version (fake) version of themselves. Also why did MC forget ML when he was a kid if they're so special to each other? Him forgetting ML just because he wanted to be liked by others doesn't make much sense. After he forgot ML, he even stopped listening to the whispers and seeing his own mirror self. That also doesn't make any sense. A person can't just forget such a huge part of his own life that easily...another thing I need to ask is why is the black mirror only in their black room? If every people can have their own black mirror then it could be in every home? The first case was seen in 18th century and that was not in the black room right? So why did ML always try to make MC go to the black room after he turned into an adult?
Anyway while it started good and scary, I ended up feeling unsatisfied with the ending...
I'm not reading all of that vro
You don't need to read it. :)
It's just my personal opinion on a random webtoon that I've read
I want to read it but it's Soo long like an entire Novel (╥﹏╥)
Understandable ദദ( ᵔ ᴗ ᵔ )
Oh, um… I think…
So, first, the black room in their house is not THE Black Room. The “black room” is just a place where all the negativities are gathered - helplessness, weakness, anger, sadness, fear, and especially malice. It could be anywhere but for them, it was the room with the black door right across Yeon Woo’s parents’ bedroom. It was where they, as weak children who could not fight back against their abusers could only… um… I guess, “simmer” in their own negativities because they had no other outlet. That room, of course, isn’t the only “black room” and those mirrors aren’t the only “black mirrors”. For all we know, it might be only their supernatural powers that manifest through mirrors and others’ “malice” are through something else.
That brings me to the second point. Joon saying everyone has their own black mirror does not go on to mean the two of them are the only ones who can control them. This fictional world is so large and, like the real world, pretty unfair. Of course, there could only be other people who were able to manifest and control their malice, otherwise it wouldn’t make much sense.
Third, when Joon said Hyun Ju would have made a different choice, he probably meant that, if it was Hyun Ju in his situation, where he had already manifested his malice when he was a child and was able to somehow escape that, if it was Hyun Ju that night when he made the absolute choice of falling completely to the dark side, he thinks Hyun Ju might not have chosen to succumb as he did. Because he thinks Hyun Ju is a good and strong person. Joon believes that everyone, including good people like Hyun Ju, have black mirrors, but only weak ones like him and Yeon Woo will be swallowed up completely. Because strong people don’t need to rely on their black mirrors and can suppress the evil in them well enough.
Fourth, Yeon Woo’s parents didn’t manifest their malice in the mirror world because they could completely release it in the real world, because they were adults who were evil and malicious and who had someone they could pick on and vent their malice on. That’s what made them different from Yeon Woo and Joon. The adults in their lives all had the strength to be able to vent their malice in the real world, abusing their kid, having an affair, cheating a child out of their inheritance, or like Joon’s friends, degrading others. Yeon Woo and Joon, when they were kids, could only helplessly accept the malice of the world and without being able to vent, could only keep it inside them. I guess, they were just unfortunate to be at the right time and place - when they weak, helpless children inside a small, closed place where they could do nothing but wish for salvation to anything that listened. Then it just grew and grew from there.
You think this novel is edgy and sending out a hopeless message? I think this is like a dream come true for some. People like Joon and Yeon Woo, they have nothing behind them to lean on, always having to walk on eggshells and stay in line, so more often than not, they attract unwarranted and undeserved malice, almost as if malicious people have them in their radar and they become someone else’s punching bag. They could only wish for something and someone to do something they could not for them, to “avenge” them and make all the bad things and bad people disappear. This is the real black mirror: that thought inside your head, whispering in your own voice, wishing for other people’s misfortune, because your waking brain tells you, you can’t do it because you have to be “good”.
Joon and Yeon Woo, they had no one so they could only be each other’s someone. Their malice isn’t strong enough to manifest by themselves, but when they’re together and nothing else matters, it’s a different story. I think that’s how they became one. Like how you wouldn’t do something bad on your own but you can do it as long as someone else does it with you. You think it’s not you, it’s their bad influence, while all along the other person is thinking the same.
U-uhh... That's an ENTIRE book in there ಡ ʖ ಡ
holy shit, this just completely changed my whole perspective on the story. are you a writer by any chance?
Sohee and Yeseul are both Yeseul trying to kill each other since they're stuck in a time loop. I'm guessing that the original Sohee was the short pink hair girl that was in Jihwan's memories and she was killed a long time ago by Yeseul which created some kind of a curse where she has to relive this moment by killing herself again and again.
Yeseul killed Sohee in all of her previous turns before this and that is why Chanhui was shocked when he heard that Sohee tried to kill Yeseul first. Reliving again and again deteriorated Sohee's mental state and she wanted to change this lifetime by killing Yeseul first. That's why Sohee tried to kill Yeseul this time around by swinging an axe so Yeseul dies first and the timeline changes. She was unsuccessful with her attempt and got killed first again tho.
This is Yeseul's 7th time pretending to be Sohee. Chanhui is the record-keeper that is obsessed with the idea of Sohee so he revives her again and again for a twisted sense of satisfaction and revenge. I think the strange acne in her face is probably because she has died multiple times before and her rotting corpse of a body has to relive this moment repeatedly. Jihwan seems suspicious in the last few chapters. He must know more than he shows to the readers. Pretty sure a higher entity is behind everything happening.
The mc is such a hypocrite. He lectures the ml's brother and mother for being uncaring towards the ml while he used to beat the ml when the ml was weak and sick in his previous life (...in his current life also.)
Let's not forget how he used to talk shit about the ml behind his back and how he used to talk to the ml in such insensitive and cruel ways. He didn't even have any redemption arc. Bro got forgiven in 12 chapters by the ml and continues to pester him and nag him thinking to himself he's the only one that cares about him.
He even dares to talk shit about the ml's assistant when the assistant used to take care of the ml's health unlike the mc who was oh so busy spending his time hitting the ml and talking shit about him because of an assumption with no proof. The mc should be grateful towards the assistant for taking care of the ml during the time mc was treating him the worst.
I would probably be not so mad if the ml also treated him rudely and was not always so nice towards him in his previous life. I can't help but feel bad when I see a nice person get treated like shit and still getting together with the person that treated him like shit.
The manhua would only become more interesting and better if the ml suddenly gets the memories of his previous life back. Maybe then, he wouldn't forgive the mc so easily and mc would realize that he's actually fucked because he's not the only one that reborned but ml also reborned along with him
The mc probably stole Soobin's luck. The 1st chapter literally starts with mc thinking to himself how lucky he is despite not having any special talents. Only having a decent face and a rich family makes his life so smooth-sailing! That grandma most probably is a shaman and she probably knew what mc's future was going to be like so she must have made a luck stealing ring that stole soobin's luck (since he was the only kid around the same age as mc). Mc probably wasn't as lucky before meeting soobin and that's why his family didn't let him leave his house to keep him away from harm. If you know you know, mc's only friend in childhood was soobin and after meeting him, mc started to steal his luck (even though he didn't know anything about it). Soobin probably had a suspicion regarding this matter because his life suddenly turned to hell after meeting mc and maybe that's the reason why Soobin yelled "My life turned to hell after meeting you".
After done stealing his luck their family moved away from that poor neighborhood (which makes you wonder, if they're so rich then why would they even come live here? Probably because for them poor person is more easy to use...) and after transmigrating, his ring was already used so maybe that's the reason why in this life, he's not as lucky as his previous life (that is the reason why he keeps on saying "This never happened to me before, I was always so lucky")
Also like the previous commentor mentioned, Soobin's sister is most probably the one that's the murderer. Her memory must've been distorted because of ptsd and that's why she thinks her brother is the murderer. If you look at her eyes well enough you will see that her eyes already seems out of place and she looks mentally ill and delusional. Soobin knows his sister very well and maybe that's why he advices the mc to not be in touch with her
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this is actually the coolest theory yet
You cooked so hard here
absolute cinema
Ugh I don't like to see the mc bleeding while being raped like that...this manhwa was my absolute favorite before but that went down today.
It was unnecessary to put a scene like that, he could've cried, avoided him or even gotten angry at him but raping him like that was really unnecessary! It made me feel annoyed!
Reasons why the ML is an asshole-
1.) He called the MC crude and vulger things such as stupid, ugly, dumb and filthy, he said that the MC has a dirty hole and called him a lewd slut, he called him useless and insignificant, he thought less of him just because he's an omega, he said that the MC's only worth is giving birth to a baby.
(All in his mind but that just reveals his true personality because mouth can lie but mind can't ever lie *unless someone has his memory distorted because of PTSD but we all know that the ML doesn't have anything like that*)
2.) He forced himself upon the MC by making him shallow a dangerous drug that he knew would cause harm to the MC's health, he forced himself upon the MC when the MC was bleeding, he didn't even feel anything when the MC was bleeding (asking him to take care of the MC would be too much when he can't even do this).
3.) He invaded MC's privacy by looking at his background (his phone numbers, parents, his house address, his economical conditions as well as his sexual preferences).
4.) He lied to the MC and gave him false hope by pretending to like him and later when It didn't work out, he threatened him because he was sooo freaking desperate to have a baby to inherit the company. If the MC didn't agree to the ML's conditions right away...who knows? The ML might have even sexually assaulted the MC with how desperate he is...He said it himself - "It would better for you to take my offer while I'm still being nice".
5.) He controlled the MC's life and forced himself upon him by making the MC have no place to stay and no place to work. He imprisoned the MC so that the MC can't leave his house. He basically doesn't treat the MC like a human but like a filthy product.
After all this his whole personality suddenly changed 180° in CH-27??? Everything is forgiven because he is rich and handsome??? His redemption arc happened supar fast out of nowhere. No backstory for any of the characters? No character depth??? He suddenly cares about the MC's body and wants him to get a abortion because the MC is frail (where was this concern when the MC was forced to shallow a dangerous drug that made him faint with a high fever??? where was this concern when he was bleeding???)
I didn't even mention how illogical this story is with the MC using a helicopter and carrying a grenade out of nowhere.
It makes no sense for a normal civilian to own or use these out of nowhere...I get that he used the ML's money but he IS NOT the ML and it's not plain candy that he's buying!!! All in all I didn't like this manhwa at all. In my opinion, it was garbage (I rarely dislike a piece of fiction so much and even rarely call anything I read garbage but there was no redeemable trait in this manhwa except for the art. As a person who read it, this was just my view of this manhwa.)
I'm thinking of watching the Jdrama today. The manga was so good. It made me feel so many types of emotion. I loved it. I hope the Jdrama is as good.
there's a live action of this? i have to check that out too
Yeah there's a drama on this. I still liked the manga better tho. Maybe reading this beforehand and already knowing how everything will go made it more predictable for me. Also I loved the comedic expressions of mishima and kirino when they were talking about each other's deepest secret in the manga! Every character in the manga felt so silly and unserious somehow because of their expressions, even the annoying gossiping moms and tarou's dad felt silly (except for kirino's mom who was depressed and that rapist weirdo that felt strange). Unfortunately no matter how good their acting in the drama is, they can't replicate the expressions in the manga...so yeah. I liked it but the manga was much better for me. I would say the manga was funny and heartwarming in the beginning chapters yet depressing because of how kirino's life was not his till end; it was his mom's. He loved his mother so much that he wasn't able to see her upset so he lived by his mother's choice which felt hopeless...
I wish they would've added more to tarou's character tho. In the manga I went from feeling a dislike towards him to liking him but in the drama...his character felt like it lacked depth...it's understandable. I think it's because what looks natural in the manga feels unrealistic in the drama for me...
The acting in the drama was good tho and everything was the same as it was in the manga so it was pretty alright. If you want to watch it you can watch it in Dailymotion!
I get what you mean. I love the contrast between the seriousness of the story and the silliness of the characters and humor. Sounds interesting to be able to compare them. I'm not much of a fan of live action but, I'll have to check this. I sure do hope we can see more of the couple and Kirino's life as continuation in the manga.
Can anyone recommend me any manhwa where the main characters have a dynamic like Jaehwan (mc) and Junseo?
This story is called "Dysfunctional family therapy" for a reason, and so I guess it's living up to it's name.
Sentarou's life was sad because he lived as someone's shadows by becoming their ghostwriter, never gaining recognition for his own work and later ended up becoming unemployed and doing a job that he doesn't like.
Since his childhood, Touma never had anything he could call a happy family. His youth was wasted on his family's dirty dealings and later on, jail.
Also Meguru literally gets isolated by her pre-school friends. Isolation is a form of bullying. She also gets teased a lot for having no mother and father. Getting misunderstood by same age kids must be traumatic for her at such a young age, even though she hides it well in her expression.
Her mother was probably the most happy person in the whole world. Giving birth to a kid and never taking responsibility of her. Travelling the world before she dies while she left her child to the child's grandmother.
Meguru grew up not knowing what a mother's warmth and love feels like because her mother was so focused on herself. At her mother's own funeral, she had no expression, instead she was scared of being alone when she grabbed her grandma's hand. Her mother had the happiest life out of all of them. She was carefree, fickle, irresponsible, indecisive, remorse-less, she was so selfish she did whatever she wanted without even caring about her closed ones...I also didn't like Shouji (the child's actual father) that much.
Despite all of this, the three of them found a sense of belonging among each other. Because Sentarou and Touma have given up on their dreams or hope, they ended up finding comfort in an innocent child that was just as hurt as them. All of them hid their pain behind a mask of indifference.
So the title makes sense in a way I guess...