King of Cows's Topics (140)

raws?

are you srs? no way thats gonna happen! i dont see their chemistry at all Σ( ￣□￣||)

Please be thankful that I went to the trouble of finding the raws for you.
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Raw: https://rawkuma.com/manga/insos-law/
Novel: https://wuxiaworld.site/novel/the-law-of-webnovels/

That's what I said but I haven't read the raws or the novel. I just saw spoilers in the comments section. Apparently there was a minor, like really small, chemistry between them throughout the series like how he picks on her or how he was there for her. Also, one of the comments says the the White hair has a crush on her and she doesn't feel the same but they did end up together??? And there's a lot of drama and dark stuff going on. But I don't know.
I'm just hoping that the author does a total 180 turn for Blue and MC to be together.

y'all better not hate on anyone cuz the girl ends up with someone who actually deserves to have her. Give it more time guys.
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I'm not hating on anyone. I'm just shipping the MC with the Blue Hair but if what you said is true then that's fine by me. I'm just on Team Blue.

Maybe read the novel before judging Jiho? He really shines in the later chapters. I think it makes sense he gets picked in the end.

Of course he is timid and spineless. His parents one day turned their backs on him because they deemed him useless since he was a healer. Everyone looks down on healers in school too. No matter what sort of person he is, Mina has absolutely no right to use her offensive magic against him. She's a bully and would have been treated as a criminal if she weren't a noble, period!

Sorry to break it to you but Mina is a toxic bitch. It’s not okay to isolate and bully someone so that they wouldn’t leave them and it’s not okay to continuously discriminate someone pushing them further into depression. Mina doesn’t have redeeming qualities and her past shouldn’t justify her actions. In conclusion Mina is a fucking bitch.

I get y'all but okay yeah, violence and bully is not the answer but same thing with running away or giving up.
Yes, she shouldn't have acted that way but to her. It was her best solution to stop him and to 'interact' with her. She did tried but he already have given up. Yes, there could have been many other ways but kids are kids. However stupid or smart they are. And yes, he was shunned by his parents but not yet by Mina. He was the one who push her away. So she was hurt and frustrated. And kids, either resort to peace or violence. Also, it's hard to apologize after what's been done. You can always apologize but you must mean it or gather the courage to do so. It's like confessing. To some people it's easy and to some it's hard. Anyways, maybe everything would have work out between them if Nack wasn't weak-willed and stops running away. He could have just accepted the fact and be proud of being a healer even if others look down on him but most kids aren't strong-willed or positive/optimistic. They're weak and their weakness will lead them to do things. Maybe sometime running away or bullying others; depending on which character from a series you're talking about.
But you know what. You don't have to agree with me. Imma clap to Mina. A fictional character. A minor so called villainous. Since I like fictitious villains. Whether they're doing for actual good or just plain evil.
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It's a shame that Nack was oblivious till the end. Failed to see how far his cowardly actions hurt those few people that cared for him. The sister is the other, we see little of her though. Mina did her share of effort (questionable depending on perspective), but didn't go well.

Usato changed that in Nack, surprisingly with the same method Mina used (more so, an even extreme version of it), with the difference that Mina's message was about how she was hurting for Nack to leave her like it was nothing. while Usato focused on making him realize the value of a healer.

I liked her too, that bittersweet separation of them made me feel for her, since Nack remained doofus till the end.

Thank you! Imma clap for you. You said it better than I ever could but most people don't see it that way. Sure, being a bully and doing violence is not okay but same with being a coward and running away when others are trying to help is also not okay. It's a pity how there are some narrow-minded people here.
Therefore, I appreciate you replying here.

Lol I didn’t think of it that way, it made her feel a little bit more realistic but I still don’t like her which is fine. My last comment was over emotional but it was my honest opinion but I get how it seemed narrow minded. I was just in disbelief of that chapter. It felt like the author was trying to convince us that we should forgive her actions because of her experience but now it feels more of fleshing out the character rather than keeping her a cookie cutter character. It’s hard for Nack to be strong willed because of the constant prejudice and discrimination of healers which then greatly affects a growing child’s mind which then creates a more narrow way of thinking leading him being weak-willed and exclusive towards people. Consequently he pushes others aside like Mina, but what frustrates me the most is that Mina is also narrow minded by not understanding how to be patient even knowing the situation of Nack. Although she tries to support him she didn’t have the patience and emotional capacity to help encourage Nack. Instead of being understanding she resorts to violence and is similar to the technique of ‘tough love’ which is using violence as encouragement to open up the minds of someone. It can work but it must be handled correctly in this case she showed toughness without revealing love or care. We can see tough but no love results through stereotypical father son relationships which then ends up worsening the son rather than doing good. So yeah those are my thoughts. Sorry it’s long I just didn’t want it grossly summarize it which would end up looking narrow minded I guess..,

Of course it's better that Mina bullied him out of frustration than because she wanted to hurt him or make his life miserable. However, I don't like her in any way. Defending her would be the same as defending a man or woman who beats up their lover, spouse or children.

Just don't forget that she tried nicely at first... Some say when ringing the bell doesn't work, banging the door is ok (Not sure if the meaning translate that well). Not that it makes it right though.

Haha, I totally get ya and narrow-minded or not. I just wanted you to see Mina side of the story and that she's wrong for violence but along with Nack's timid self. They're just frustrated kids. Whether we like them or not. We should at least try to see where they're both coming from. Like, Communication is key but misunderstanding is the total point of drama and mostly the reason why for stories to continue.
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I honestly don't know what to say. You blew my mind and NOT in a good way. I read your other comments and you still managed to blow me away. She almost killed him and yet its his fault for being depressed about being abandoned and bullied. I have never been so shocked. I know this is fiction but the fact that you and other people actually think like that. I could respect your opinion of liking her but the fact that you had to victim blame in order to do it is very demeaning. He is a child. If an adult cant handle parental abandonment let alone a whole school/nation against them, what makes you think a child can? Can you? If you can good for you but dont assume its easy or a task anybody can do. What he needed was therapy, love, and a adult figure. Not abuse! If she was in his place, she probably would have killed herself. If she was in his place would you have said the same thing? The fact that he didnt kill himseld is an accomplishment and that fact that she abused him because she didnt want him to leave made her crazy and a coward. I'm shaking. I have so much to say but no words. Sorry for the rant.

Yeah, and our MC made sure to beat the love into his body rather thoroughly. It worked then. Makes me wonder if maybe Mina didn't abuse him enough? just kidding. Now...

He WAS a victim alright, but it wasn't because of that that he was pushed around, it was because he kept the act of a victim up. That act pushed the few people that cared for him away. As he believed himself the victim, everyone was a bully in his eyes. He WASN'T at fault, yeah, but he wasn't looking for solutions either and that attitude just made things worse.

I'll say it again, Mina tried nicely at first. And on that note, I don't know from where you pulled that thing about Mina trying to murder him. She was just trying to knock some sense into him while pissed at his apathy to see the truth. Questionable methods? yeah, sure, but she's a child too you know, making things as a child would.

Bad things happen in life, they make us learn and grow, they don't make us "victims".

Immma be blunt. You got some fucked up logic. And while it sounds goid on the surface its fucked and this is coming from a fucked up person. I said she almost killed him. I didnt say she tried. Tried implies that its intentional. The MC said when he saved him something about him nearly using up his magic and if it contiued he would have died. Besides at the least the MC got his consent she didnt. Dont pretend her actions was pure and that she was to young. She wasnt even a friend. In her sob story background or whatever she even insulted him and said playing with him wasnt fun but at least i wasnt as bored as I would be with myself. I'm not saying stop liking hee I'm saying you should raise her pedestal by bring

Crap I accidently pushed send. Anyway to continue dont raise her pedestal by lowering everyone else's. She wasnt a concerned friend she was a bored playmate who want her toy to work again.

Woah, ok. Feel free to continue the rant. Just don't misunderstand this one thing. This topic isn't about glorifying the girl. Not even close to that. We just say that after wraping everything up, Mina doesn't seem that bad to us, heck, we can actually see some nice glints about her at some point. You don't have to share that same opinión. It's ok to disagree. It won't change how we see it though.

To answer yours, even though it's already been answered by another. I guess you still don't understand it coming from my/our point of view and that's okay. Agree to Disagree.
Let me try to explain and if you still don't get it then just DROP it. We'll probably won't see eye to eye.
LONG RANT. So you're more than welcome to ignore.

ONE. I did say violence is not the answer, but to Mina, that fictional character. It was her solution. I'm not saying it's right but sometimes. I gotta agree with violence. (Like, dude. Man the f*ck up, but that's just my personal opinion.)

TWO. I agree. It's not his fault for being depressed about being abandoned and bullied but it is his fault for rejecting help (like Mina's Help) and runs away without finding an answer or tries to help himself. He kept being the victim and don't get me wrong, he is, but he could have found that one person to trust him or help him, even if it takes years. But NOPE, he didn't and runs away.

THREE. In correlation to two. "What he needed was therapy, love, and an adult figure." I agree, which he could have tried to find or hopefully someone out there could have tried to step up in doing but nope. Neither happens.

(You may SKIP this one since it's just a personal story of my own.)
FOUR. "If an adult cant handles parental abandonment let alone a whole school/nation against them, what makes you think a child can? Can you? If you can good for you but don't assume its easy or a task anybody can do."
To answer this, it depends. When I was young, I have always been a crybaby but I was also strongwilled. I'm the type who cried or get emotional whenever I get angry just because if I murder someone. My mother will be sad. So I wimped out and do nothing but sit there and cry in frustration and move on.
Now that I'm an adult. I try to be reasonable but if they want to fight. So be it. Fists will be flying. I don't care. I'm not gonna sit there and get my ass whoop like Nack. I'm going to try to fight back. Whether I get my ass beat or theirs.

FIVE. "If she was in his place, she probably would have killed herself. If she was in his place would you have said the same thing?" I think you're right. If she was in his place. She would have killed her self. Maybe. Then again, I see her standing up for herself even if the whole school is against her. She also doesn't seem the type to run away when help is being offered. She might be tsundere about it like "I-I don't need your help, stupid, but thank you" with a blush at the end.
And if they switch place. I would still say the SAME thing. The first at fault is the one who rejected help when help is given. The second at-fault is abusing the other. So BOTH are at fault.

LAST. My topic is just saying 'Mina is okay.' It was a personal opinion which you guys can agree or disagree with. If you want a debate then this was going to happen. You guys are literally putting that 'surprised Pikachu meme' on.

Anyways, thank you 'zamiac' for your thoughtful input and mostly thank you 'SolracXV' for siding with me, I think...
Hopefully, this discussion ends, but if y'all still want to debate or argue about Mina. Then I'm more than welcome to entertain y'all. Otherwise, please just drop it and move on.
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Agreed. In the end this arc raised quite the dust cloud. I'm not that bothered because neither Nack nor Mina strike me as highly relevant characters to the story, seeing as our MC is growing to be quite a healing monster. Maybe we'll see a little more of them in the future, but only as some part of side character grow scene (Nack as an official member of the recue squad and Mina as a noble senior mage) or something like that.

Yes, we should end this discussion. As much as I want to poke holes in all of your fallacies, we would be here all day if I did.

I love discussing over mangas and such. hope we can meet again in another topic box. :)

I'm a person who rarely gets involved with people outside my school and family. Talking to people on the internet is also a worrries me, but as long as you promise not to kill me then sure. I look forward to debating/communicating with you. Also still getting use to texting so please dont mind my typos. Or my my southern American dialect.

protip for that internet anxiety: Never, under any circunstances, put real info (data, pictures displaying faces or recognisable places, etc) about you or your family in a conversation or a post in internet. Easy enough, no bad people will ever reach you ;)

At least from internet.

I think it was when he was unable to heal himself and she just keep firing magic at him. She might not have meant to kill him, but if it continued he would have died. She was irresponsible and reckless. It doesn’t mattered if she cared/ tired to help. She caused him harm, turtored him, and isolated him. Don’t forget she basically tried to enslave him. It doesn’t matter if he was leaving her, everyone has the right to choose who they want to be around. He didn’t want to be around her so he shouldn’t be obligated to. Everyone needs time to sort things out, and process things. He needed time to grow and heal himself, but what she did was filled his time with more pain and suffrage. I believe she cares about him a lot but understand she and him are still children.

I don't doubt that if Mina's pushing kept going he was bound to break at some point, but she's smart enough to control her strength as to not kill someone that's kinda her friend. It was shown that her status and talent isn't just appearances. She's pushy and beligerent but she's no psycho.

About Nack, that's one way to see it. As I see it, it wasn't that he didn't want to have Mina around, more like he didn't want *anybody* around, he was taking their discrimination about healers and started to alienate himself too, and it's evident it was less to think things through and more to submerge the situation, walk the other way and ignore it while lamenting. Thus resulting in his magic growing an emotional lockup that didn't let him heal himself. which changed when he swapped to a protective attitude towards people.

His situation wasn't an easy one to accept, at all. but instead of doing something, *anything* about it, like for example: complain, retort and/or rant about his disowning on his parents faces, you know, as a child would, instead he just resigned, and decided to avoid everything even if it was someone trying to help him, as it was with his little sister, at the start with Mina and at the start with Usato (The latter was just more pushy and convincing than him stubborn).

You know what I'm thinking about right now? it's crazy, but this thing has so many elements similar to the start of Boku no Hero Academy. Like Kacchan as Mina, the beligerent runt with talent and big ego that sees Deku/Nack as his pathetic but necessary and overly abusable underling, with the difference that instead of a Deku, we got ourselves a quasi-Shinji Ikari xD Then we got Allmight/Usato to tell him that it's possible for him to be a hero and train him. Crazy, I know xD

Definitely not just you. No idea if something is being lost in translation or if the original was this... convoluted, but something makes this hard to understand

Okay, thank you. So I wasn't the only one because like I was reading this but I got confuse in the midst of the story cause it didn't make sense on some part and so I just shrugged and left it as it is.
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Well I think having the kids heads plated like a 5 star dish could be quite cool as well
Or made so that the General finds out what he's gonna eat only after he consumed it all u-u

That idea is also good. I guess we'll just wait and see the outcome.