We have all been "DG" once, so it should be easy to feel for the guy.. a fangirl or fanboy given a chance to be with your crush. It should be easy to pity DG~ but it's hard to sympathize when he lacks RESPECT or he's NOT a man of his word. So... His idol sleeps with him BUT made it clear he's not into relationships. That's the rule, that's where he draw the line-- verbally saying it... And You agree... In DG's case, Alex threw him a bone ╮(￣▽￣)╭ and DG went ahead and took off Alex's whole arm. There's lovesick... and there's plain annoying. The dangerous ones... because they're 'seemingly pure'... so when they screw up, like getting drunk and ruining Alex's job, Alex is seen as the BAD guy bec. he's a VJ who sleeps around and he "hurt" pure DG...
You are all 'assuming' that Alex is developing feelings for DG and he's in denial--The thing we are all 'assuming' = Alex is still on his way into realizing it. (now that THAT is out of the way) In the current storyline, only DG has solid feelings about Alex AND to Alex they had a verbal agreement. As ADULTS since DG is atleast 20, DG is acting like a little bitch.
Like I said... DG isn't pitiful, not annoying, not just stupid. He's annoyingly STUPID.
He for the 50th time did not make anything clear. Jiwon said a lot of things and went back on it. Getting jealous, wanting to monopolize someone he wasn't even dating. So, no he wasn't clear beacuse his actions did not match his words. You all can call DG annoying and stupid or annoyingly stupid but I also call Jiwon stupid because he actually thought that having sex with his fanboy that he believe would never catch feelings for him. It takes two. It's both of their fault. DG for wanting more and trying to accept Jiwon's behavior simply because he thought Jiwon was starting to like him instead of having self worth and Jiwon for being irresponsible and disrespectful to someone and not treating someone, even someone you're just having sex with with respect.
Lol "Alex threw him a bone ╮(￣▽￣)╭ and DG went ahead and took off Alex's whole arm." That has got to be the funniest way to describe the situation >w< While i do agree i think we need to take into context that Alex was his first in many things. He is not used to this kinda situation and relationship. Alex could keep the line because of his flings and one night stands but DG was literally a virgin who never fell in love with anyone other than Alex. When I look at this perspective i actually quite pity DG. DG may have ruin alex's job but Alex ruined DG's capability to love and have a healthy relationship (just like what his ex did)
agreed
tea.
"Alex could keep the line because of his flings and one night stands but DG was literally a virgin who never fell in love with anyone other than Alex." -This is the exact point why DG is dangerously stupid. Being PURE and INNOCENT give him the golden-pass to be clingy. If anything he's innocently ruining Alex's life.. If DG slept around and still acted this selfishly, people would condemn him.. but no, since he's pure, he has the right to be selfish.
Did you forget?? Alex always asked DG if he felt any romantic feelings for him. And the "Pure" DG understood the situation. He said it clearly in a dialogue "IF Alex finds out about my romantic feelings, it's over.. he won't see me anymore." -- Even understanding it, he lied. Which is COOL... until he got drunk and pissed over Alex's livelihood.
I think you can fu.ck with everything, just not someone else's JOB and the source of income. DG's selfishness put Alex on a bind with his job~ which is not cool. Decent or indecent, it's still his job..
First of all chill out. It's not that serious. Second, no I didn't forget anything. Jiwon did ask him again. Why? Because he wanted to use that as an excuse later but Jiwon knew. Also, Jiwon's job is fine. If anyone is selfish, it's Jiwon. I'm sorry I disagree with you. You can feel however you want. I said what I said. It's both their fault. I'm not excusing anyone's behavior. But you and many others are excusing Jiwon when he has his part in this situation as well. I'm not saying you should pity DG but don't say it's all on him. Also, Jiwon had the power to end it as well. He didn't because he wanted to continue even though he knew that DG was developing feelings for him.
Seems like you, a few people and Mingwa are the only ones that get this.
You are all 'assuming' that Alex is developing feelings for DG and he's in denial--The thing is, keyword 'assuming' bec. Alex in the story doesn't think that way~. (now that THAT is out of the way) In the current storyline, only DG has solid feelings about Alex AND they still had a verbal agreement. As ADULTS since DG is atleast 20, DG is acting like a little bitch. If he was 15, it's okay... but he's 20! Idk if the author meant for DG to be annoying in a juvenile/childish way, bec. that's how it looks.
you know what guys? let's shorten this argument and end it with:
They're just both at fault.
i won't put any examples or reasons to lengthen this thing that's going on here,
they are just both at fault.
so that means both of you guys are right! HOORAY!! ヾ(☆▽☆)
（/TДT)/ and everyone's a winner at this debate
(▰˘◡˘▰) ok? ok.
has everyone said, he wasn't clear at all. someone that don't want a Relationship won't force you to belong only to him and get possasive over you!! NO Alex never was clear to DG or to himself. and he know DG admire him and have feelings for him from the start.
and again, the power was all his, if he really, like you said, didn't want a Relationship, he would have end it a long time ago after the date or after DG took care of him when he was drank. but Alex never care about him enough while he treat him like a slave! he only think about himself and his job. end of story.
Masterpiece Bec. It's finished. And incredible because if this had a different ending it wouldve been BASIC and Shoujo-ish af.
No. It has been marked incomplete by mangago. I too thought it was complete and totally accepted the ending....I mean why does the uke has to always go to the asshole seme ? But let's see if this will even get updated before I turn 30.
It's cool, sleeping around with multiple partners, playing with people, even manipulating them~ no judgment. What's 'annoying' is when a person 'asks for it' and then complains after you give him what he asked for. Shiwoo was complaining that Hyun (seme) was gentle and should treat the him rougher: http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/see_you_agai/uu/see_you_agai-chapter-45/3/ ╥﹏╥ Then when his bed-partner slaps him a bit, right after that thought, he complains???? wtf. *He always feels VICTIMIZED*
http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/see_you_agai/uu/see_you_agai-chapter-45/5/
It's OKAY if Shiwoo clearly doesn't care about Hyun and they're just Sex Friends- cool!... Yet it's below-the-belt and foul to immediately ask Hyun to fuck him while a stranger's body-fluid is in him----- ew... ever head of S T D??? This goes beyond 'emo-ness' it's stupidity. At least clean-up, it's not like you all did an orgy where you know each other.
The author is a talented artist.. but this is like, if Yashiro from "SAEZURU TORI WA HABITAKANAI" lost all his brain-cells.
I think you got mixed up and should reread that. He wanted him to be rougher and asked for it, yeah he complained about him treating him gently and that's in his head. I'm sorry if you don't get what you're reading but maybe if you don't like it and have a problem then may I suggest you stop reading? If you aren't mature enough to understand the story and the ukes past then all you're reading is what's in your mind. The idea of what you think is going on. Then you complain about the characters but they're just characters. Why do people keep complaining and talking about it when they're the ones who choose to read it? If you don't like the character then simply stop reading it and move on. Nobody forcing you to read it!
No. I get that he's trying to be "masochistic" and trying to be a sex-addict, cool.. but he's always COMPLAINING. His Tantrums are hurting people. The point of having sex with everyone should be it satisfies all parties, but he always has a problem, always feeling victimized. And he's making his sex partners feel guilty OR feel bad. Even that old man who slapped him for calling out Hyun's name. Shiwoo is miserably annoying..
Don't be HYPROCRITES and complain.. There's a ***warning*** before the even started. And some of you people are complaining about what you just read? Why? To justify that you're intelligent and pure people?? Give me a break. They put a WARNING, it was there for a reason.
And if it's the story being 'mediocre'.. hul.. there are so many mediocre manga/Manhwa out there, you're reading this for free.. (￣_￣).
The biggest enigma to me is when those who complain about the rape continue to read the manga and then resume complaining about it. If rape bothered them so much, why continue investing time into reading the manga only to complain about rape even more? No amount of complaining will change what the author decided to incorporate into her manga. (￢_￢)
True dat..............(〜￣△￣)〜
Agree
100%
Alex is a jerk and HONEST about his preferences. Alex NEVER lied to DG even though he came off an asshole. DG wanted to play, but he was selfish and deluded to think he can change Alex. Sadly, people like DG exist in real life.
And in real life there usually aren't people who would go out of their way to support them like in the comments section here.
Is it only relevant that Jiwon is super popular and successful and everyone loves him and desire him?
He is well respected and appreciated. He has many friends many hobbies...
While DG is a total loser.
That has to mean something. Jiwon being perfect at everything and DG lacking in everything...
Like I said, Alex is an asshole. He knows he's lacking and can't do relationships~~ AND/BUT he was upfront about it from the start. And always checked DG's feeling for him-- to make extra sure. There are people like that too in real life.. but more of a jerk since they're not as meticulous as Alex in looking out if the partner is indeed falling for them.
A Punch in the stomach... next is the Final chapter??? Wah.. I'm expecting g at least 3 more.. but okay.. a great manga always ends.. love it.
Then do it Doumeki do it!(づ￣ ³￣)づ I'm tired of Yashiro lyng to himself...
Edit: "pin down" doesn't automatically mean rape.. some over-defensive hardcore know-it-all might get triggered.. a protagonist might pin-down someone and it led to consensual scenes. (Ex. Nekoka Kareshi series, Yondaime Ooyamato Tatsuyuki, Loverboy etc.)
Calm your NEGATIVE MINDS, it's getting obvious you're the one reading those types of manga. If you understand the story, you know by now that Doumeki isn't that type of man. So if he will pin-down/dominate/push Yashiro, it's because he thinks it's the right moment to nudge the guy but he will NOT force Yashiro into anything. (▰˘◡˘▰)
Common sense if you read this from beginning: you know Doumeki would know that it's USELESS to force himself on Yashiro. Yashiro wants a "rough Doumeki".. rape is basically useless on Yashiro since he's a maso-sex-addict, who wants Doumeki to go apeshit on him. So if Doumeki pushed Yashiro down, it's not to "rape him" but his own style of feeding Yashiro gentlesness.. I can't believe I have to explain this to newbies.
He won't because
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Thank you
Well, if you've been reading this long enough, 'in this house' you know that Yashiro will give his consent even if Doumeki chikara did it.. like I said, he's been lying to himself. In a different house, it's rape and a no-no.... But in Doumeki and Yashiro's House it's called "extra push.." ~ don't @ me cuz it's true.
That would be a push in the wrong direction since D taught Y that gentle lovemaking can feel good. It was kinda th whole point in chpts 20-24
Absolutely. annehime, it seems like you haven't been 'reading this long enough', to use your own words.
Why does "Pin down" automatically mean RAPE to you anyway? Why did your mind immediately go to that direction? There are lots of manga where the guy pins down the girl or guy and it led to ***consensual sex****.... Geez... Some of you lot are so defensive, rape was the first thing that came to your minds?? Wow.
Who said "Rape"? Maybe you are reading too much rape manga that you think pin-down is synonymous to rape when it's not. I don't know what kind of manga you read...... but a character might pin-down someone and it led to consensual scenes. (Ex. Nekoka Kareshi series, Yondaime Ooyamato Tatsuyuki etc.)
Calm your NEGATIVE MIND, it's getting obvious you're the one reading those types of manga and trying to be "self-righteous" in the wrong comment section.
Common sense, if you read this manga through~ you'd know Doumeki would know that it's USELESS to force himself on Yashiro. Yashiro wants a "rough Doumeki".. rape is basically useless on Yashiro since he's a maso-sex-addict, who wants Doumeki to go apeshit on him, and basically asked for it the moment he knew Doumeki got cured. So if Doumeki pushed Yashiro down, it's not to "rape him" and it won't lead to force or rape Bec. It's not doumeki's style... I can't believe I have to explain this to newbies. Doumeki used "pin down".. doesn't mean rape.
You did in the 4th comment above you wrote that what would. be considered an extra push here would be considered rape in another manga, the other commenters and I are saying Yashiro may think he wants rough sex because that is how he has always been treated and that was the only way to get off..but D got him off with gentle sex all.night.long no one has revealed a 'negative mind' here so far, though @someperv suggests a re-read for you
It wasn't in reference to rape though, things are a bit more -complicated- here. Doumeki knows that Yashiro's wants violent sex, to him it's a way of disassociating. Whereas Doumeki wants Yashiro to have an emotional connection, he doesn't want to hurt him. Doumeki saying he can pin him down, could mean that he wont take his shit, like everyone else, he can stand up for himself, or do what he thinks is right in order to protect Yashiro, he is fiercely loyal and protective. Doumeki also has his own issues with feeling like he could be like his dad, or that he could be like the other men who Yashiro is with, but he's not, his dominance is expressed in other ways, and it's not violence or rape, as Yashiro knows. Yashiro is more frightened of having an emotional connection. As readers we see the full picture, but for Doumeki he was dealing with Yashiro running away without saying goodbye or leaving any reasoning.
Aside from well-thought ideas, even the weather was deeply considered to suit the vibe of LoverBoy... Aside from the amazing concept, dialogues, CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT... It's a masterpiece because it's COMPLETE~ and in it's completion, it's made of heart-wrenching, happy, sensual and relatable storyline.
Clean story line. Clean ending. Very Unique school-life setting.