I remember reading this as a teen and liking it, but re-reading it once more, the "Dream" that Mashiro and Azuki have of "we'll marry each other after achieving our dream" is so stupid lmao. They barely know each other at all and they're already set on marrying each other. Why manga treats marriage like such a flippant thing to promise someone is beyond me. I also am reminded that their "rival" Eiji was introduced to us as a really cool and brutal guy -- "I want to be able to cancel any manga I don't like", and then immediately that threat was abandoned to make him a goofball. While I do love that he's a goofball, another part of me wishes there had been a cool talented rival for the duo to go up against. Instead every one of their rivals are normal people. While that does add to the realism of the story, why fake us out with Eiji's (later to be revealed quite uncharacteristic) Cool Guy Villain introduction?
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While I like that Seth and Horus got together in chapter 183, I feel like it was sudden? While there was this slow build up all this time, them finally having actual sex out of mutual desire didn't quite land for me. It felt like there was still a step in their relationship that was missing. I honestly expected this slow burn to have kept going for a lot longer because it seemed like Seth was only just beginning to really see Horus as a friend and an ally. Also disappointed that their sex was painful for Seth. After how painful it was with Osiris, I wanted Seth to get all the lube for when he and Horus finally sealed the deal. :(
Yeah it felt out of place because I saw the raws a long time ago before the English translations and when I saw them smashing I was just like how?? Doesn't Seth hate Horus? It felt weird that he was kissing him when in season 1 Seth hated the idea of being with a man so.... what's was the suddenly change Seth behavior without an expectation of why he likes kissing men now. It's weird that Seth nows likes men? But a lot of people had said what you said too. All I remember was them kissing 1 time then they started smashing it went from A to Z. It wasn't any build up in their relationship to the smashing part. That why it feels out of place and why their relationship still feels one-sided. Sometimes it seems forced between them.
lol!!! what!!! i wasn’t even able to tell they’re together until like this ch… maybe i need to reread. what if felt to me is like they just have sex often and horus just tells him he loves him every now and then.. def agreed. we should’ve gotten more in-depth of them being officially together now
I think that's the point of 'coming of age' cave
I feel the same way you guys fell, they needed slow buildup of love and desire, but I think when they went into the cave they gave in to the desires the cave put upon them
See how Seth hallucinated his wife and went to bed His wife, when he knew she possibly couldn't be there
seth came out of the trance when he realised it was hallucination and came back to horus
He already felt comfortable with him and horus was closest to his heart after his wife and son
So I think it was the power of the cave, providing lust to both of them and they both consented so yh
Seth actually didnt hallucinate his wife, Horus did. And those werent hallucinations, Bastet took on the image of Neph, and the other aspiration was most likely Sekhemet.
This comic shouldn't be here. This thing will ruin your life. I'm not kidding. I read the webcomic "Wish You Were Here". I have read Berserk. I have read Suehiro Maruo's twisted eroguro. I have seen the depravity of Mai-Chan's Daily Life. I can stomach a lot of extreme drawn art. Crossed as a comic series is one of THE MOST soul-sucking things I have ever laid my eyes on and a part of me was stolen after reading *that* webcomic. It's like the spiritual equivalent of a non-smoker sitting in a hot car with a 10-pack-a-day smoker smoking a cigarette with the windows rolled up. It is BAD. Brother turn back. I am telling you. I am TELLING you. It's not worth it.
two good things have come from this author:
1. the boys (show)
2. the preacher (comic)
(berserk is peak dark fantasy, the disrespect to mention it with along those others...)
the story beats just don't work. it feels really fast and disjointed compared to Deadman Wonderland which had a steadier flow of events and developments. I barely know what exactly is happening and off everyone goes to the next thing.
Love how the ML immediately invites the FL over to his place to give her an actual crash course on bondage. *rolls out whiteboard* ╮(￣▽￣)╭
The author clearly can only draw like 4 different faces/hairstyles, and it really detracts from the stories because you're constantly thinking "Wait, is this a continuation from the previous chapter?".
The first chapter was meant to be scary? It's just a guy saying his sad story over and over. At a certain point I'd zone out and just take the money. I don't really understand what's so scary about it. The family died in a fire, that's it. A sad story, but not a scary one at all so I don't understand why the girl was so freaked out by the guy. At a certain point wouldn't the shock and freakiness of it wear off? ┑(￣Д ￣)┍
I kept waiting for it to be revealed that she knocked over a candle and the fire was her fault. The father was pushing the story to get her to think about it or something?
I thought that was the case too. I was wondering why she was so bothered by him. the situation didn't seem that bad I don't think he was genuinely trying to harm, he just needed a friend. maybe some therapy with the amount of money he had. idk I kinda feel bad.
Imo the guy keeps repeating the same story which made the girl uncomfy and wants to end the 'job' but the guy got attached to the girl because seems like she's the only one actually listened to his story, to the point the guy starts following her everywhere even when he's dead
But also i think the girl starts to hallucinate because she felt guilty when the guy died
I was so so so so into this webcomic but with Season 2 it feels like it's losing me. Horus turning into a ho-hum horny yandere wasn't something I wanted to happen, especially since it feels like he switched personality just like that ever since he and Seth slept together in the temple. Not to mention that I thought that Seth's rape at the hands of Osiris back in Season 1 was brutal but well done in its horrific nature, but for Horus to also be that violent to Seth despite his trauma is disappointing and yet again another case of forceful "sex" being thrown around willy nilly. I ain't a prude but I'd like some mature handling of this sort of thing rather than it just being used for generic titillation. I really thought this comic was going to set itself apart. I even bought the first three volumes, but I ain't buying anymore cuz it's kind of devolving into a really story-heavy BL where the BL isn't actually anything profound or special. I'm still going to keep reading because I'm already 200+ chapters in and I'm going to see it through to the end, but yeah...
It's valid to not personally like s2. But imo Hours alrdy had yandere tendencies, even at s1, it just wasn't put into focus. Re-reading ennead made me realize some aspects of the story, you'd have missed at the first time.
Still, while it's your own feelings to that, I felt like the r*pe aspect isn't exactly thrown willy nilly. Sure, I see there were some uncomfortable scenes (like the r*pe scene with the caravans or with the foreign god) but I don't find the sex scenes with horus as violent as you describe. He was kind of pushy at the first time in s2, but he showed still, even in later scenes, a more gentle and consensual approach.
Like asking before moving, apologizing if he took things too far. And if Seth really didn't like it (like in the bathhouse scene) he did stop and they only continued bc Seth approached him first.
For me this doesn't scream violence and r*pe as much as the other scenes.
While I do agree that s2 isn't topping s1 (I still love s1 Seth), re-reading ennead and grasping stuff that flew above my head, just bc the webtoon has been running for a few years with long breaks in between. It made me realize new connection and I also understood the plot. While it was a let down before, after the re-reading made s2 alot enjoyable imo (since I can now understand what the plot was). That's to say maybe I'm overlooking some things, but personally, I don't think it was too bad.
Horus has indeed always had yandere tendencies kinda made it obvious that his life has always revolved around Seth and his “change of attitude” is not per say “change” to me it is more like actions of a starved child and Horus is supposedly a child in the setting if you get what I mean. I personally feel like few manhwas are unmatched to ennead maybe paljae but we’ll see. Anyways the plot thickens!
And that's great! I'm just feeling a bit let down by S2. I really miss S1 Seth who was a little shit. I guess I just don't like how we've seen Seth be raped by not only Osiris but the slavers and then we have Horus who just loses all self-control when he gets a chance to have sex with Seth on numerous occasions and it's like "Come on, dude. Take a second." It's painted clear that Seth still has a bit of reluctance to be intimate but Horus bulldozes over him until Seth is freaking out. I just hope that Horus learns to control himself in the future because Seth deserves better.