Stumble reading this again after long time. Aaaahhh... Still good.
I read this story like a hundred years already and everytime i read i keep bawling like no tomorrow. The story is so realistic yet so pure.
I am not justify Randolph action for burning his mom alive, but man... if you do not grow in abusive household, you will never know how it feels. My friend right now still had panic attack if he suddenly make sound from his step, or incidentally making any disturbing sound, because his alcoholic father will notice him, then beat him. He often said to me, that if he could kill his father without any consequence, he will do it.
Dont judge Randolph for his action, you dont know how it feels live with somebody who abuse you all the time. Just be grateful, the worst thing of most our parent do to us is scolding, a lot of people have it worse and in the privilege and lucky of our parental position, we had no right to judge him.
His mom wasn’t even abusive to that extreme. She was crippled by disease and bound to her bed. She didn’t routinely beat him, she had to rely on him. I’m not saying she wasn’t awful but she is no more awful than tons of parents. It did not take much to make him murder his own mother and that’s....intense. I mean we have all the right in the world to judge him. It’s fiction so murder is being taken more lightly here but not even your friend has killed their parents because....it’s fucking insane. Just justify it for being fiction, not because of the abuse. Because that’s the only reason we are fine with it, because it’s a fantasy story. Idk why people are making excuses for him.
It’s not okay that he murdered his mother. He needs to repent. But physical abuse isn’t the only abuse, verbal abuse is just as horrible and psychologically damaging.
Yeah but what I’m saying is....his abuse was kinda mild. Like everyone experiences emotional abuse at some point, our parents aren’t perfect. My dad has had anger issues all his life and he’s done some stuff that I will carry with me forever. There’s stuff I will never get closure on and stuff that I will always be angry about. My mom was abused as a child physically and mentally and she are murderous. She can be very emotionally manipulative and emotionally scarred me when I was suffering a severe depressive episode....but I’ve never actually thought about killing anyone. Like....it’s crazy. To actually feel capable of murder....is actually scary. Sure we’ve all said stuff like I’ll kill you or I wish I could kill xxx, but actually feeling like you could do it and actually doing it are completely different emotions. If somebody could murder somebody that easily, they are emotionally unbalanced and scary. If anything, it’s only fine here because it’s fiction is what I’m saying. I can completely overlook it and engage with the story and see it as part of what makes his character. But if somebody commits murder irl even if it’s just a passion crime in the heat of the moment....that’s....a lot.
LOL very bad typo. She is NOT murderous. In fact, she is way more forgiving of what happened in her life than I can ever comprehend.
.......i am not making excuse for him? Literally my first sentence is 'im not gonna justify his action' over there, look it up. However all i am saying is, living in abusive household leave you with certain traumatic experience, and everyone reacted differently through the trauma. Good for you and your mother, passed through difficult situation without being insane, not other people can be like you. My tittle is "matter of thought," my point in the comment is; have sympathy, no judgy. And you literally doing the opposite ╮(￣▽￣)╭
I feel like you’re really downplaying abuse for other people by comparing it to your own experiences. Not everyone has the same tolerances for physical or psychological abuse. By saying someone’s abuse is “kinda mild,” it seems like you’re really downplaying it, which I don’t think is healthy for anyone. Obviously what we see in this story is fiction, but if someone you know were to come to you and tell you they were experiencing essentially what you just saw in the last chapter, telling them that what they’re experiencing is “kinda mild” would make them less likely to reach out and more likely to stay quiet. I’m not saying you can’t judge someone for their actions (but do consider the context), but please be mindful about how you describe someone’s abuse, even if it’s fiction, because some people might find parallels between Randolph’s childhood and their own life.
You saying just because I was abused and didn't kill anyone is like you also saying I was depressed and didn't commit suicide like who are you "one-uping"
Damn I wish we could upvote replies
Same
i literally just found parallels to my own life and then you’re going to give me a moral lecture telling me that it’s wrong because other people might do the exact same thing I did? Mmmmmmmkay..I’ll just say that if he was just gonna burn his house down anyway, he could totally just have left and completely cut ties with his mother and gotten her out of his life without murdering her. I’m also not downplaying his abuse because idk if we just read the same shit but his mom what? Yelled at him and slapped him around? Manipulated him emotionally sometimes and hurt his feelings a lot and doesn’t take his emotions seriously? Yeah that has happened to me so I really am not going to act like his abuse was extreme enough that I think it wasnt totally batshit of him to kill his mom. Hell the fucking guards abused him more than his mom. Like shut up? Take your own advice. My mom emotionally abused me during my first major depressive episode to try to make me stop “acting out” and I wanted to kill myself during that time but like I’m not a fucking psycho so I didn’t murder her and instead worked through my issues even though I was only in middle school and now have a super strong relationship with her because I facilitated conversation and learned good life skills instead of “get rid of things I don’t like” :) feel free to go pretend to be morally superior somewhere else
Um....a murderer? Damn I bet you really thought you had something there.
My gods, i think the point of what everyone said in the comment is just "Have sympathy to other people." and you continued to how you abused and you come out stronger, we get it, good for you. However, not everyone can be like you. People act of their traumatic experiences differently. My friend had anxiety of disturbing sound, my ex-boyfriend had anger management problems. Both of them grow up in an abusive household with an Alcoholic father and mom that passed away/divorced. Yes, we cannot justify Randolph action, murder is murder and it is wrong. But have frickin sympathy and not be an asshole who downplaying other people suffer because you go through the hell without burned and somebody came out of it and lost their limbs.
Lmao so you still make my point. Your ex didn’t kill anybody. Stop trying to defend the authors shitty writing. She did a bad job. She’s drawing more parallels to him being like his evil father murdering because he’s just pissed off but then wants the reader to sympathize with him. He’s not even fucking real. He didn’t kill his mom because he didn’t have a choice and he also didn’t kill his mother because he FELT like he didn’t have a choice, he did it because he just flat out WANTED to. I do not think the author should have written it that way if she wanted readers to be sympathetic towards him. She did a bad job and you are trying to justify the concept of what he did....just so you can fool yourself into thinking to writing here was realistic. I also didn’t say I didn’t come out of hell without being burned? You’re being such a hypocrite. I said I have tons of shit I have to deal with for the rest of my life but work hard to try to be good to myself and others but you’re desperate to make a point that hurt people who hurt people shouldn’t have to try to be better or do better to those around them. Where’s your fucking sympathy for me? You have none. So what is your fucking point? Would you be less pissed at me if I told you about all the times I’ve failed to be a good person because of what I went through? You say I have no sympathy for what people have been through.....right after I told a story about how I overcame my abusive relationship with my mother...because I recognized the abuse she went through and chose to forgive her so we could move forward. You’re literally just fighting with me to fight with me because you don’t like me. All you’re really doing is acting like a hypocrite
My gods, what's wrong with you? why should I like or not like you, I don't even know you. So you want sympathy after bragging that you came out still be a decent human being after wants all you've been going trough? i congratulate you two times for fuck sake because you going through a hard time and still can be a decent human being. But you know what? you begging for sympathy but you cannot even give one to this fictional character. I do not defend anybody. I write murder is wrong i am not justified his action. The author could make better writing obviously but hey, i can have my sympathy of Randolph growing up in an abusive household. Where i am hypocrite here? You know what, i don't want to say this but you might should call your therapist.
Omg idk how you can interpret me calling out your hypocrisy as me begging for sympathy or pity. I’m literally just highlighting how you are doing the exact opposite of what you told me to do. You’re telling me to be sympathetic for some hypothetical person reading comments and relating to the story....while you’re actually being unsympathetic to an actual person reading the comments and relating to the story. It’s fucking hilarious how absolutely hypocritical it is and that you can’t even see it. You’re not even supposed to sympathize with Randolph! That’s not the point of the fucking story. He is literally functioning as the other half of the coin in this situation. Both boys were born from the old king. One had his house burned down with his mother inside by the king...AND THE OTHER CHOSE TO BURN DOWN HIS HOUSE WITH HIS MOTHER INSIDE. The point is literally to compare him to his father. He literally did the exact same thing as his father. He is meant to be the dark half of the two siblings. Both were forced out onto the streets as boys...one by his own actions. Both had to struggle to survive but only one of them held up their own sense of justice and morals. Hell! He even turned himself in so that other street kids wouldn’t be killed in the kings search to find and kill him. One is meant to literally be the golden child while one is his dark literary foil. Sure one had a mother who was mentally strong and the other didn’t...but the whole point of the story is to show what they both made of the similar situations they were put in and one (Randolph) did something like his father. Obviously the author is trying to redeem him but her writing of him is bad and people shouldn’t just go with what they know she’s trying to write just because they know it’s what she MEANS when it’s not what she’s actually DOING. And calling that out in the comments isn’t me being unsympathetic to a FICTIONAL character or to some hypothetical person reading the comment sections. It’s literally just a critique of the writing. But you want to turn it into a conversation about hypothetical ethics lmfao
lol ok
lol glad you agree
I am nor agreeing. I just dont want to wasting time with weird stranger lol you do you. I am still with mine lmao
I admire your ability to throw out insults to the very end, despite you starting this whole conversation because you thought my words might be too rude or unsympathetic for some readers ;)
What insult? Sist you comment in my post and join the convo, literally no one invited you lmao. And btw what the f is this sentence you directed to me, "--because you thought my words might be too rude or unsympathetic for some readers." Bold of you to think i have thought about you whatsoever. lol what a weird fellas.
Lmao acting like anyone invites anyone in a comment section...it’s an open forum. A comment IS an invitation for more comments. That sentence came from you telling me my comment was unsympathetic to a fictional character lol
Yes, its an open forum, doesnt mean you have to join tho, you decide to do it yourself lmao. Doesnt matter what sentences its refer, that is some confident that you think i have thought abt you at all. If you doesnt keep appear in my notification i would forget abt your in second tho lol
I see quarantine meme everywhere but not expect to see it here so when i see those stupid frog doll i am flippin and now my stomach hurts.......
Frog...doll...? Lord, that is Kermit the Frog. He is a muppet. Educate ya self
.......... dang clearly somebody doesn't understand sarcasm. Educate ya self.
Yo bitches everything is about Shin, he is the Story. The comics named after him. Wolfgang come after him. Just like Naruto, its his story even though he screamed "Saskeeee!!!" everytime (lol). Dont dare disrespect my boy like that again.
I never see hatred and this equivalent monstrosity in one place like this section comment. Let me find a knife. Would like to join killing party.
Its been a long time i read threesome relationship without drama. Aaaaahhh such a bliss.
BUT DAMN MY BABY REN IS GROWING UP I USED TO WATCH HIM CUDDLING WITH THOSE GIANT DOGS AND NOW HE IS 16 AND TALLER AND MORE HANDSOME I AM NOT READY!! YES I AM BAWLING.
/(>.<) i know he is growing up to fast
isn't he like 17 already????
He’s old so I understand
I looooovvveeeee this mangaka art. The line is very clean and the panel is sooo easy to follow. They also created nice pace for every story they make! The character is also very humanly and keepin real. i wish they make long series.
Damn this manga really check out all the cliche scene theme in shoujo and yaoi category but i am thirsty and drink all of it already lmao