Damn, I love this story
The lore is so good and the relationships so deep, even when you only get a snippet of them
I love the art and how expressive it is!!! The stories are so touching, this mangaka is really skilled at making poignant stories that grip your heart and make you feel for each character
That last chapter’s cliffhanger is so frustrating though AAAGH please let me know who’s blade is coming for Tsuki’s neck and what happens next! (I’m guessing it’s the Turtle guy?)
I really like Ogeretsu Tanaka’s stories
But I especially liked this one, I feel like it’s an improved version of the kind of stories he’s written in the past
Even though it talks about awful trauma, abuse/neglect and all sorts of violence, the most heart wrenching part is the love and the human feelings that are expressed
Also, it didn’t feel like the violence was gratuitous although definitely proceed with caution and don’t just read it thinking you can handle it or whatever, read tags or Trigger Warnings before
I really relate to Haoran especially, this feeling of « what could I wish for that could be better than this ? A normal quiet life with someone/ people I love. » and struggling with having a normal/stable life, I feel that in my core, I’m struggling with this a lot lately and really like this ending actually
At 1st, like many commented, I thought I wanted more or was surprised they hadn’t kept in touch somehow but no, this makes sense and it’s beautiful
They both managed to keep on living and build themselves back up, on their own but never alone, BUT still love each other and their presence in e/o ´s life is an add on/lovely kind of « bonus » but it’s not their « whole life » anymore
That’s really healthy and I’m glad in the end they are happy like the title suggests
Please, upload the chapter 13 whenever you can, it’s missing at the moment
Thank you so much for these chapters!!!! This is one of my fave mangas
Cirrus is fully self sabotaging everything right now and kinda letting go of any care
Like he’s just giving up, self fulfilling prophecy that he isn’t loved and can’t be and will always be abandoned
Like, he just snapped and doesn’t seem to care anymore :(
I hope things work out for him and he can have nice kind people around him in the near future
1st of all, this was fucked up and Idc that he got into a different headspace and wasn’t fully present when he forced himself on her or got so impatient bc he was pent up and so excited for so long that he snapped and lost complete control of his body and honestly seemed to have dissociated
That’s what seems to have happened imo
Also, as others have said, yes there’s definitely a desire for sadism/control of others within him as well, no doubt in my mind
We saw it already when he was under her wedding dress when her family came to see her and everything
BUT I’ve been trying to understand if there was some kinda signal/signs in the artwork that would indicate their different emotions or state of mind
And I feel like I’ve cracked the code and connected the dots!! For real
Wellp
Guk’s character has officially zero appeal to me anymore, possessive, not respectful of boundaries or caring at all, forceful and does whatever the f he wants
The yapi stereotypes killed our man from s1 and s2 ... In jus the span of 3 chapters
YAOI I MEANT
Like, at this point, i don’t care about how all these people have trauma and complicated attachment types
Jinjoo is the victim for me rn
She’s being pressured in both relationships, stuck with a husband she doesn’t like and who destroyed her fucking life but she’s scared of leaving which is very common, especially when we just learned that he’s her 1st/only partner and that he snatched her right out of high school ?!?? Fucking awful and predatory
And then, has this very weird unclear relationship with this young student that doesn’t communicate, makes all these assumptions, has intense feelings but hides them and is violent and rapes her if she’s angry ?? Like? They’re both awful to her and force themselves on her. Jinjoo is not a bad person here.
It frustrates me that both characters are painted as these silly, smiling, sweet, kinda naive people who just make mistakes or fuck up but still well meaning somewhat harmless people
Idk I feel like I’ve read lots of comments making excuses for them, especially for Doyeon
She might be a woman and younger but that doesn’t mean she can’t cause harm and at this point she’s just being meaner and meaner every chapter
What’s excusable about rape ? And then Jinjoo is treated like a bad guy because she’s struggling and not “choosing” or “getting a divorce already”
Yes, it is frustrating that she’s not making a decision and being direct but she’s not actively being violent like them and she’s trying her best+ we actually see her make changes and lots of effort
The husband and Doyeon are just worse and worse and I wish it was understood and said clearly.
Obviously idk what the author wants to convey but I would hope that the readers could see that being indecisive and traumatised isn’t the same as being mean and abusive.
Jinjoo doesn’t deserve all this vitriol and hate.
Even the cheating, her husband ABANDONED her and for all she knows he just left her with all these debts or to fuckin die killed by those loan sharks
She has every right to live and have relationships in that situation. Even after he came back, it’s like wtf dude ?? You can’t expect things to be the same after that and not speak with Jinjoo before deciding anything else about how you’re gonna live, together or not etc
I don’t care that at 1st Doyeon was a sweet inexperienced but well meaning and caring lover or that people think she’s hot when she’s mad.
Rape is never okay and her words are also very mean and abusive now.
Trying to control someone and scaring them like that ? yeah you’re right girl, you don’t know what love is, you have no respect for your partner ?!!
Anygay, it’s fine to have messy relationships and not perfectly communicating.
It’s also ok and inevitable to hurt each other. We will hurt each other because we’re alive and feel things!
But there’s a difference between hurting each other accidentally and trying your best in a shitty situation and just being human
AND acting out on your impulsive intense emotions and wanting to hurt and get back at someone for not doing what you want from them (insulting them, talking down to them, ignoring them and their feelings, physically hurting them, sexually assaulting them etc.) or straight up deciding not to care about the other person at all
I agree with this honestly feel bad for jinjo
The ONLY positive thing I can say is he at least stopped himself and said « I need to cool down » this time, but still, damage was done, he’s unable to frickin communicate, he’s agressive and violent but then gets insecure thinking « aah oh no, she scared of me », he doesn’t take her side of things into consideration and just starts YELLING at her every time, he never took the time to really get to know his fuckin wife and i hate him
GO AWAY
LET ME SEE MAXI’S DEVELOPMENT WITHOUT YOU EVER SHOWING UP
FUCK YOU RIFTAN
You go away. What the f
Actually, Riftan has EVERY right to be mad at Maxi. She is a noble born woman with no experience on the battlefield. Hell, she has no real experience being anything outside of a shut in naive girl due to her family's abuse and neglect. Yes, the Calypses are the reason she is becoming someone who can be great and I love that for her, but it is stupid of her to enter a battlefield without any knowledge other than people can get hurt and die, she not only puts herself at risk, but others too, since even the female clerics are probably prepared in what to do in case of an ambush/attack. As she isn't a real cleric, she has no idea of what to do, and it's understandable why Riftan is so angry.
He is afriad for his wife's safety!
He knows she's a liability, because now he's going to have to change things around so she's safe with those he knows can protect her, either another knight or Ruth, which will then mean one of his men who should have been fighting is pulled aside to protect Maxi, because he cannot lose her. That is how much he loves her.
The argument of Riftan being unable to communicate is stupid. Yes, he stopped in his rant because he knew he'd say things he'd regret, but that doesn't mean that this conversation is over. Maxi is also no better at communicating her own feelings as that is something she has always struggled with due to her upbringing, but this is actually a good thing because this is going to lead to certain boundaries being put in place in their marriage, and Maxi is more than likely going to be forced to experience the cold hard truths of war now.
And by the way, Maxi isn't afraid of Riftan, Riftan also knows this, because none of her body language when he showed his anger pointed to fear at all. And honestly, he has no reason to consider her side of things because what Maxi did is selfish. Yes, she loves him and is worried about him and while I'm happy to see them finally reunited, I understand more of what will happen with Riftan if Maxi gets hurt because of this. I mean, she's already exhausting herself, so who knows when she's going to collapse under the stress and that can become bothersome when they need to focus on the upcoming battle.
Have you even considered what would happen if someone outside of his knights found out about Maxi being there? There could be consequences, consequences that Riftan will take on himself as blame for her actions, because he loves her and doesn't want her to deal with.
Also, Riftan makes the time that he has to get to know his wife, the issue is he has a dukedom to run, which is his responsibility, obviously outside of when the crown sends him and his men here there and everywhere on missions. It's not Riftan's fault he's not able to be by Maxi's side 24/7, he cannot disobey the crown and his kingdom, otherwise that will start conflicts, putting his people and Maxi in danger.
He won't do that.
This is their first genuine fight as a married couple and they will get through this just fine, but expecting Riftan to just be "Oh well, my wife's on the battlefield as a disguised cleric." and not be angry at her is ridiculous. At this time, he cannot be a husband, he is a soldier. He cannot afford to focus on Maxi when people can die any moment. Riftan is a veteran to wars, so he knows the strain it brings, he's probably exhausted, stressed and fed up with the war, but at the moment all Maxi has done, despite her pure intentions, is add more stress to overwhelm him with.
What happens if Maxi almost gets hurt in future chapters and Riftan makes the sacrifice play and gets injured??
The war efforts will suffer. He is one of the strongest, if not the strongest soldier on the battlefield and he cannot afford to spend time worrying about his fragile wife. And yes, she is fragile, she has no athletic experience. She struggled to ride a horse for long periods, which is expected during war, so even if she has her own strenghts, athletics and defence aren't one of them.
So this series is about two broken people. TWO; Maxi and Riftan, they are both flawed characters but that’s what makes them relatable. Maxi can’t grow without Riftan and vice versa .
All his actions make sense when you realize where he comes from; I’ve read all the books and while it’s not an excuse both him and maxi are broken people.
Peak! The mere fact that you have to write all these obvious points...
Real! To demand Maxi show her own development. She couldn't even find the courage to fix her own stutter when she was by herself cause there was no point in doing it. The title itself is so obvious, the story of the nymph and a hero...
Thanks, I mean it really irritates me when people try to pit so much hate at green flag lovers just because they get angry, like helloo... he's a human, we all get angry, even at our partners, manga and fiction are no different. It makes me think that some people simply don't thoroughly read the story and understand what is going on.
I expressed frustration about the type of character he is
However, all the people commenting here, we are real people, not just a character, so I think you should try to be respectful, even when you’re feeling some type of way
Some of the comments are plain disrespectful and we aren’t having a conversation so answering my comment telling me to go away or making a lot of assumptions about me isn’t gonna lead to anything
You can express how you feel or vent too but there are real people that can see your comments afterwards, this isn’t a private conversation
I commented in a lighthearted way without thinking too much but if I’m answering to someone else’s comment, I have to pay attention to how I’m saying things, keeping respect in mind
Me thinking differently than some people doesn’t mean I’m unable to understand complex characters or situations, doesn’t mean I implied he can’t be angry, that there aren’t very valid reasons to loose one’s temper or that Maxi isn’t doing dangerous/inappropriate things
I expressed that I hate that he reacts like that all the time and his behaviour has remained very similar throughout the whole series, I don’t like this behaviour and i think it’s even dangerous behaviour when left unchecked considering how so many people (men specifically) are like that irl to very real people
I have every right to dislike him, you can hate « broken » people too
I can understand where he’s coming from AND still dislike how he’s going about it or how he’s acting :0
What I dislike specifically is that by behaving like that he’s not treating his wife as a person equal to him, that’s also what i dislike about some of the comments
Not how you feel, not who you are or what happened to you in your life and how it affects your character now: I dislike that if you are too concerned with how you feel in the moment, you stop being able to treat other people as though they have equal value to you
Their thoughts and feelings matter just as much as yours, who they are and what they’ve been though matters just as much, so you have to act in a way that shows that you care about that, hearing them out, trying not to hurt them etc that’s what respect is
You can do your best, you can « love » people and still that can be irrelevant if you are disrespecting them in your actions towards them
Obviously sometimes you can’t uphold your values (like in a high stress situation or when you’re depleted and unable to) but for me it’s a value that I know is efficient to live with people well, it’s important to me bc I also need respect from others
Therefore, I try to act by upholding that value as much as I can
Anygay, I don’t believe they are a green flag couple, I don’t like Riftan and that’s okay
I don’t have to