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Yea that’s what’s happened

and before anyone replies some dumb shit: RAPE = A LACK OF CONSENT. When they first had sex, at first the MC agreed, then the MC decided to not have sex with him. He took away his consent. but the brunette blackmailed him anyway.
the second time, the brunette released his pheromones and wouldn't leave until they had sex. it was non consensual therefore it is rape. stop deluding yourselves

Short and loud: you don't deserve to be in this comment section. Periodt.

PERIODT Lmaoooo

imagine thinking u did something with this? u offered 0 context or reason as to why I don't deserve to be in the comments or why my opinion was flawed at least come up with a good argument or response if you disagree with what i said.

I get where your comments comes from, but to be honest I don’t think the story started bad I think it just ended but. Like I see what the writer was trying to show all through the begging, yes rape, prostitution but let’s not forget remorse. So I think the ending was too rush. After he found out they were fainted mate he had to make amends, he had to take his time trying to convince his other half that he is not the same as before that he truly values his love one. So what I am trying to say is you are right to have this kind of point of view but I can also see where this was going for some reason theirs a lot of pieces missing to make this a good story but let’s not be rude we are not paying to read this, and is our choice to read it or not.

There's no point in me writing the reasons. This just showed how much your view is short of everything. There was not a single rape scene in this manga. Everything was known beforehand because of the deal, so the uke kinda knew what to expect also everytime they were asked before doing sth. Yes maybe they were agressive showing the interest but that's it. It's quite simple actually. Also this is a smutty yaoi manga, ofc they will mostly focus on having sex scenes. I just wanted to express my feelings for this comment but i can see that if I continue it will tire me in the future so this will be my last response. I will just let you be the petty, prejudiced, closed minded person. If you're so keen on reading lovable, fluffy, romantic mangas without any drastic drama then go read some shounen ai mangas. They don't have sex scenes so i bet it will be easier for your frustration.

LMAO you saying there was not a single rape scene tells me enough about your character. Bye

Jesus fuck- HOW CAN 8 PEOPLE DISAGREE WITH THIS? YOU ARE LITERALLY RIGHT

I know right? I literally condemned someone who wants development for seungho and so many people replied with anger towards me LMAO they're just mad bc I'm calling out their fetishization

i hate people who force opinions on others .....so fuck u lmao .............why do u even read anymore......are u here on some mission to help others,get some help please ,this is not the place ...........i dont understand, where do you find the right to talk like that? and stop with the u like a rapist bullshit..........nobody likes the rape get over it............its a manhwa, we have seen many sides of him and some of his backstory ,all of it..........that makes some readers hope.........u dont totally ok ......chill pleaseeeeeee

translation: leave us alone and let us fetishize an abusive relationship in peace!

imaging appropriating a word that has no business being in our mouths when fujoshi LITERALLY just means you like bl or have mlm ships. You read bl? You are a fujoshi. Call mlm fetishizers that and stop misappropriating a jp word to fit your western standards

are u delusional lmao.......chill please........its fucking fiction.......and u are rude af.I know u mean good but its not the right place..........let people enjoy the damn manhwa .........

How are you more angry at the word Fujoshi than the fact that people are fetishizing an abusive ship ? LMAO get your priorities right then come back to me. You look dumb.

You know why I’m not worried it’s because it’s fiction and my priorities lie in actual activism for those in abusive relationships rather than getting outraged over a manhwa. People can understand that this shit is wrong yet still ship it or whatever because whatever you consume in fiction does not define your real morals (and this is coming from someone who doesn’t care if you ship them or don’t I’m neutral on it). Homegirl you’re hella stupid if you think things are gonna change cuz you’re throwin a fit underneath a manhwa you KNOW is gonna have ppl shipping them and shit yet you still look, and comment on other threads with “you fucking fujoshi!!”, etc like yeah I can have a problem with how you use a word from a culture we have no place in. Just look away LMAO it’s not that hard bbg I promise Know where you are. I don’t give a fuck if you’re going around saying “I don’t ship them I just read it for the plot!” because that is perfectly respectable. But seeing how this is a BL, and how they are most likely going to get together in the end, I don’t know why you’re literally throwing a fit when you should know the outcome to this oh so wonderful plot you read this manhwa for when half of it is just them fucking OR something that has to do with literally their relationship building. But you do you ig

Translation to my long ass comment because you did this shit to someone else: Cater your online experience to you, fiction does not outline your morals, and literally stop misappropriating a word it’s not that hard. Also in addition, some fellow mlm may disagree with me and you could be mlm yourself (which is an entirely different discussion as our discourse is ours and ours alone to discuss if so) but don’t speak over us thanks <3

You realize multitasking exists? Someone can help stop abusive relationships while simultaneously condemning those who fetishize abusive relationships in manhwa. You genuinely sound so dumb and it’s so sad you spend so much time typing that paragraph just to say a whole lot of nothing. Again, how are you mad at ME? how are you mad at ME for condemning people fetishizing an abusive relationship? That literally does not make sense. Why are you mad at ME rather than the people saying they hope nakyum ends up with his rapist? How are you mad at ME rather than them babygirl just stop.

And also; if you’re truly an activist for those in abusive relationships.. what are you even doing. You’re more angry at someone condemning an abusive relationship than you are at the people fetishizing it? You of all people should know that people fetishizing their relationship is wrong and the majority of ppl doing it are girls who fetishize mlm. This fandom is genuinely so weird

One last thing; you can have a problem with me misusing words from a culture but you don’t have a problem with the millions of people fetishizing their relationship? Y’all are deranged and even if fiction doesn’t outline your morals, many times the way you react towards something in fiction says a lot about yourself. For example, all these people bashing noona and saying they hope seungho and nakyum end up together most likely fetishize mlm relationships in real life as well.
And me being upset over people fetishizing an abusive relationship isn’t me throwing a fit. I’m genuinely so sick of people fetishizing mlm relationships, how I’m reacting is perfectly reasonable for someone who’s spent years seeing girls fetishize mlm relationships, ESPECIALLY when they’re saying they hope nakyum ends up with the man who raped him. I’m genuinely mind blown that you’re calling me stupid and insulting me for not being okay with people fetishizing their relationship. Get it together.

Girl if I’m saying a whole lotta nothing please point me to where you’re saying anything. “Even if fiction doesn’t outline your morals many times the way you react to something in fiction says a lot about yourself. All these people bashing noona and saying they hope seungho and nakyum end up together most likely fetishize mlm relationships in real life as well” is a huge generalization. I can understand your frustration, but can I ask... are you mlm???? Don’t speak for us LMAOOO Not only this but I’m absolutely baffled that you literally do not know that here you are, actively choosing to read and consume content like this which again if you are tired of fetishization, I would like to remind you the manhwa artist is literally a woman writing this shit and you consume it. What if they get together at the end? Will you tell me how is your activism goes if that’s the case?? Is going around calling people who ship them a fujoshi working out for you? I’m not mad at you for condemning an abusive relationship, anyone can see that what’s happening is, rather I am angered that: 1. You are speaking on the behalf of all MLM and you’re literally calling me deranged just because I don’t agree with your standpoint on the matter or just because it goes against your own morals as to what someone who’s mlm should think 2. You are generalizing that people who ship them fetishize mlm irl and 3. You misappropriated the word fujoshi also please tell me where commenting underneath a manga thread where literally all you’ve been doing is calling people fujoshis and saying fuck you to people who ship them is activism. How are you taking down a toxic relationship when all I’ve seen you do is say “fuck you” and call them a fujoshi. These mfers are 2D n I swear y’all treat these 2D mfers who don’t exist better than you treat people behind the screen when you hear something you don’t like. You can’t restrict fiction, nor can you restrict what people like in it. If you can multitask your activism, then people who ship them and can condemn unhealthy relationships irl.

Also one last thing: people who fetishize us irl are garbage, but this and that are two different things. Again fiction has no bounds. Unlike you, I’m not going to generalize and automatically assume the worst in people.

dont waste time lol.............u are talking to a wall and one that calls people deranged......a psychologist here to cure us lmao......like that is cyberbullying and someone who does that hasnt a right to advise others......Ill ship them,i think Seungho is a really pitiful character not just a rapist,thats what the author has shown........i cant ignore all and think he is a rapist and he should die.......when i know there are things that lead to him being a monster.....i literally want to see change...what is so wrong with that lol ...plus take in consideration the time period and all........i dont want to justify him,but this is a historical manhwa and he is the “villain”......a lord who is cruel.....the whole point in his character is the development.....the point why we all read this........but ok we fetishize rape (︶︿︶)＝凸.....im sure u wont find a single person that started shipping them after that happened........╮(￣▽￣)╭

Many people shipped them even after that happened you actual idiot and why are you even here ? You’re an obvious fetishizer and that’s clear, so just leave. You’re just trying to justify you’re actions.

And let me end with this: You are shipping a rapist with his victim. That alone should tell you there is so much wrong with you. Regardless of whatever excuses you try to make, at the end of the day seungho is a rapist and you are shipping him with the man he raped.

Have you read this or have you seen posts on instagram because nobody did that you huge idiot......and by the way you speak i can tell you are a delusional who is here to tell us what is wrong from right,its fucking yaoi lmao.I think u should stop reading this,its not good for you,your brain cant take it or maybe you are a masochist........plus you sound like you are 12 and cant diferentiate fiction from reality............ You dont know shit about me,know your place........also translate this:fuck off

fr why do they date guy cuz like strap-ons exist ya know?

And then sleep with the other guy that same day............

RIGHT???? I understand why, because he self-sabotages as a result of his trauma, but it still annoyed me

I totally agree with you!