helvetica February 12, 2024 9:33 am

Okay so real questions guys:

If someone kidnaps someone but that person actually wants to be kidnapped, is that still considered kidnapping? Cause the perpetrator definitely sees it as kidnapping, but the person being kidnapped might not(and mc def sees it as another kink thing honestly lol) so, do we follow what the perpetrator thinks and say it’s kidnapping, or what the victim thinks and say it’s just 4D level mind games chess of bdsm plays.

Like, imagine another scenario where someone gets kidnapped but the victim doesn’t even realize they’re being kidnapped and thinks it’s a role play they’re doing. Like, would it be considered a kidnapping role play then? Or just actual kidnapping.

WHERE DOES THE LINE CROSS FROM KIDNAPPING TO KINKINESS.

    misterchan February 12, 2024 9:59 am

    consent in key

    Lumina February 12, 2024 10:45 am

    Honestly the 4D chess might not be off LOL. From what I glimpsed from the raws, it kinda seems like Jin is using reverse psychology on the ML. The guy is being gaslit into selfguilt, while Jin is just happy to be in good company.

    SingleLifeisToughInYour20's February 12, 2024 11:15 am

    Y'all haven't turned off your brains yet xD?
    At this point the use is enjoying himself so much, it's just nice seeing him this blissful xD

    YouBeeeeeaaaaach February 12, 2024 11:56 am

    Attempted kidnapping at least. Probably different depending on the country.

    Seme wanted to kidnap him and didn't know that Uke actually didn't want to leave. Is it only a deprivation of freedom if Uke wants to go but can't or is it already done if he physically can't? That's basically the question.
    Uke didn't say he wants it or make it clear in any other way (the opposite: he made it clear he doesn't like it), so it isn't consent.

    He is pretty much a kidnapper but with the information we have it's ethically not that bad because we know it's Ukes kink. XD

    lla696308 February 12, 2024 1:39 pm

    Like I’m reading this thinking I’d love it but nah I need to go to the bathroom by myself. So we would be fighting

    SM¥ February 12, 2024 4:18 pm

    Bestie, don't think too much lmao

    yoonso February 12, 2024 5:10 pm

    in real life this case probably would fall into the category of stockholm syndrome and the perpetrator would still be charged.

    helvetica February 12, 2024 11:04 pm
    in real life this case probably would fall into the category of stockholm syndrome and the perpetrator would still be charged. yoonso

    Yeah, that makes sense. Probably would unless the victim created a document or something before the incident which says that they acknowledge this kidnapping before hand and it’s consensual or something sht lol

    Lumina February 13, 2024 1:40 am
    in real life this case probably would fall into the category of stockholm syndrome and the perpetrator would still be charged. yoonso

    if going by NA laws then...technically, the perpetrator can't be charged unless the "victim" presses charges. There's no need to formally make any documentation beforehand.

    the only way would be for the prosecution to make claims of duress --- which would need to be substantiated with (a lot of) evidence.

    yoonso February 13, 2024 2:29 am
    if going by NA laws then...technically, the perpetrator can't be charged unless the "victim" presses charges. There's no need to formally make any documentation beforehand.the only way would be for the prosecut... Lumina

    what if the victim’s family file a report for missing person?

    Lumina February 13, 2024 4:24 am
    what if the victim’s family file a report for missing person? yoonso

    Unless the kidnapped person is a minor, they would still have to ask the victim if they'd like to press charges.

    Lumina February 13, 2024 4:32 am
    Unless the kidnapped person is a minor, they would still have to ask the victim if they'd like to press charges. Lumina

    ...Ok, well, let's suppose the family filed a missing person report but the police found that the entire thing is not a crime if both adult parties seem to consent and one is not under duress; then the victim in question is not a person who has been kidnapped, but considered a "runaway". There might not be any penalty for that if the runaway is an adult, because it wouldn't be a crime.

    helvetica February 13, 2024 3:02 pm

    lol I love how serious this became XD

helvetica February 12, 2024 9:17 am

THE EUNUCH IS SUCH A DUMBASS AND THIS IS SUCH A SHIT PLAN

helvetica February 12, 2024 3:56 am

WHAT THE FUCK. WHAT??? OMG WHAT IS THIS STORY HOLY SHIT. THE OTHER SECRETARY WAS REAL????



Also this is how you do a confinement story without making the seme a complete red flag lol. I mean he very much is still a red flag since… kidnapping, but since the mc’s favorite color is red, it’s the perfect fit and you can’t hate him lol XD

(Also not saying I don’t like other confinement stories. I absolutely love those messed up shit, but this one was actually funny and not just angsty Lolol XD so it was funny seeing the the difference one plot choice could make lol)

helvetica February 11, 2024 5:35 am

Omg I love how we can hear all of the ml’s thoughts XD he’s so pathetic I love him wtf Lolol. He acts like what a “cold grand duke” would act like but inside, he’s the biggest and horniest dumbass XD it’s perfect lol


Also, I was like, “my guy, why are you so horny?! XD” but then he revealed that he legit can’t even have sex with anyone and I’m crying. Man, imagine having such a high libido that you get excited from someone just sitting across from you at a table and not even being able to do anything lol XD

Also, are they going to have a child in the future? Cause he is like the only heir and there’s dragon stuff and magic stuff in that world, so who knows what could happen Lolol XD

    Lumina February 11, 2024 8:16 am

    I want more ML like him

    dofu February 11, 2024 9:45 am

    He's a horny himbo masquerading as a cold duke. We need more MLs like him lol

helvetica February 10, 2024 2:18 am

lol I was expecting them to be more like “WHY DID HE HAVE TO DIE!! MY BABY!!!” After the movie ended, not be all analytical like lol XD like, that’s something you think of AFTER spouting out all of the word vomit in your head while crying lol. At least from my experience as a fan lol

I think I’m too used to extremely realistic fan interactions and responses from other manhwas I’ve read lol XD

    maplesyrup <3 February 10, 2024 2:31 am

    I thought the same thing usually you talk about how the movie made you feel and cool it was then just Jump straight into analyzing how much this person has grown into an actor and all that stuff

    helvetica February 10, 2024 2:37 am
    I thought the same thing usually you talk about how the movie made you feel and cool it was then just Jump straight into analyzing how much this person has grown into an actor and all that stuff maplesyrup <3

    Yeahhhhh I was like, this feels a bit unnatural? But it’s okay I still enjoyed it haha XD

    Cause I know I legit cry for hours after my favorite character dies and then afterwards I make a long rant about how sad I am, then it divulges into like analytical analysis on the characters and plot lol XD true fan behavior lol

helvetica February 9, 2024 8:52 pm

I like how they told us right from the get go that “yeah. Rehart obviously didn’t save her. He just took credit like the bitch he is” lol

helvetica February 9, 2024 5:23 pm

I hope that mc doesn’t fall in love first again. I kinda want her to come to terms with her first love through the ml, who she should only see as her nephew, but then the ml falls in love first, and has to be the one pining for her, while she clearly draws a line.

This girl deserves to be pined for after all this time lol

Also hope Bright trips and dies in a ditch. The situation sucked, but that doesn’t mean you can just tell someone else to die in her place. ESPECIALLY THE SISTER OF THE PERSON. I hope when she asked for that hug, he realized her feelings for him and feels more like a shitty asshole. Though, from spoilers, probably not

helvetica February 9, 2024 7:41 am

I hope this so the start of Loyd and Caroline’s love story, cause I really do want them to be good characters.

Also, dang, in both lives she got best friend-zoned XD

helvetica February 7, 2024 5:50 pm

Okay so I remember reading this awhile back and then dropping it because he ml’s dad got on my nerves.

I hated how the mc treated him like he was a good guy, despite knowing the abuse the ml was going through.

Like, I said it in my review, but it felt like the author wanted a story where there’s a doting dad but they also wanted ml to have a sad tragic backstory where he was abused, so they tried to cram in both parts of the story.

However, it just feels really disjointed and anything “good” the mc does for the ml seems super superficial, as she doesn’t even try to address the root of the problem, as she still basks in the doting of the abusive piece of shit dad.

It got on my nerves so much as they just never addressed it, just being like, oh that’s just the setting, isn’t it sad? Anyway, look at MC shop with the dad! Isn’t that cute?!!

LIKE NO. ITS NOT. THAT MAN IS AN ABUSIVE PIECE OF SHIT AND I DONT CARE IF HIS GRANDFATHER WAS SHITTY. ALSO. ITS WEIRD TO BE PROJECTING HIS OLD LOVE ON THE MC LIKE THAT.

I was hoping maybe mc would do something and the dad would snap out of it, but NOTHING. Mc just got on my nerves with the showmanship of her caring when she never did anything cause she was the one being loved, so why would she give a shit. It just felt so manipulative of her to give sympathy to the ml one moment and the next moment she’s enjoying all the toys the dad gave her.

Like, fuck her. Fuck the dad. The ml deserves better and should’ve just stayed gay at that point cause wtf.

Sorry I needed to get this off my chest and see what other people thought about that plot point in the series. It was near the beginning but it was like at least 20 chapters worth of that nonsense.

The author wanted their cake and to eat it, but I just want to barf at the absolute mishandling of both tropes.

    somnia February 13, 2024 9:25 pm

    same, SAME. I hated how she didn't do anything with the duke and just let herself be showered by his attention while he was so obviously neglecting his own son. She could've done anything, shunning the dad or guilt tripping him would've been the minimum but she's going through it with a anime sweat droplets without having tried much of anything.
    Idk about whether the author made the Duke that way for the sake of indulgence, but honestly it's bad either way. I already despise that her step-brother had to be the ML, and with the dynamics the author just slammed themselves against the door. The plot itself is actually interesting, but the things you listed leave this bitter after-taste for sure.

    helvetica February 14, 2024 5:50 am
    same, SAME. I hated how she didn't do anything with the duke and just let herself be showered by his attention while he was so obviously neglecting his own son. She could've done anything, shunning the dad or g... somnia

    Yeah, it again just felt like performative kindness whenever she interacted with ml or showed sympathy for him when in the next chapter she’s smiling all happy at the father. She also knows that he only cared about her father, so she DOES have some power over him to get him to stop being a scumbag. So it’s not a “oh but I can’t do anything” situation.

    If anything, the artist drawing him with sparkles and shit when he spoils the mc really ruins anything the story has going for it. Like, it’s already bad enough that mc isn’t doing anything and letting this all happen, but stop trying to make us like the dad when we legit saw him physically abusing the ml. Like, you can’t write a doting dad and an abusive dad in the same character.

    It’s also why in stories where mc has siblings and their dad only treats the mc well leave a bad taste in my mouth. Like, please love all of your children??? I don’t care if they also love mc too, we don’t respect favoritism in this household.

    Anyway, if they actually made mc reconcile the two and made the dad realize how wrong he was to take his anger out on his child, I would’ve continued reading this story. Like, that’s more impactful than “oh she was nice to me when I was being abused,” if we’re talking about reason to fall in love. Like, it doesn’t even make sense from a story perspective, unless mc subconsciously wanted to monopolize the dad’s love and be spoiled while acting out a savior complex of “saving” the ml. Like, its giving white lotus bitch vibes an original fl would have in other manhwas

helvetica February 7, 2024 3:17 pm

Still hoping that by the end it’s revealed that mahiro is actually super strong XD

The whole part where he’s carrying really heavy books normally is giving me a small bit of hope ;;

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