Idk why ppl are mad to sunbae bcs he isn't obliged to accept mc feelings even if he knows from the start. What do ppl want him to do break off their relationship? Shame mc for liking him? Accept mc feelings eventhough he didn't like him? He probably misled him a bit but at least they are still friend and he didn't treat him bad. bruh didn't he also set him up with ml? And the ml also used mc in some way so idk why ppl treating as if the sunbae like the villain of the century lol
There's a third option: talking to him like an adult and telling him that he can't reciprocate his feelings.
Crazy, I know.
Saying it like it was that simple lol. Plus how did we even know mc can accept it calmly plus they probably are high school kid i don't think they are mature enough to talk like 'adult' back then. And why do the sunbae need to address it before mc confessed. Like isn't that like embarrassing to mc too if he did?
They're adults in university now, he could talk to him or at least be as clear as possible that he's not his type and he should look somewhere else without saying it, like mentioning a boyfriend or girlfriend, instead of grabbing someone else to snatch him away because he's too much of a wussy to reject him.
This shit happens in real life (the part of someone liking you, never telling you, and you needing to reject them or let them go), if you keep being their friend and not trying to give them hints, it's cruel. It's not easy, but that's just life.
Cause it is simple. He coulda just said he didn’t like him instead of doing all of that which makes him an asshole. They’re ADULTS mind you, they can handle their emotions.
Lmao again why does he the one needs to be responsible to mc feelings? Mc didn't have the courage to confess why did he needs the one who goes out of his way to deal with that? And now you want him to lie saying he has girlfriend and all like its not different with what he is doing now lol. He did mention he kind of like ml and give hint and do we see mc give up? Nope instead he want to snatch him instead lol. And again how can you be so sure their relationship can be like what it is now if he did? Im sorry but mc seems like the type who get depressed alone if he did so its actually good that the sunbae introduce him to ml although it was prob accidental. I think its still unfair for ppl to blame it one sided to sunbae when its should be a two side thing. Yes shit happened irl but its easier to just say things until you are the one in their place especially if you are close to them. Ppl react differently. And we dont know if sunbae try to be considerate in his own way.
Lmao and yet there's so many case online where ppl can't handle their rejection eventhough they are ADULTS and even go to the extreme like kill the other person or suicide. they are not robot that can receive instructions and end their feelings like that. If human that simple there shouldn't be crime case, toxic ppl and broken family lol. Human have emotion they are complicated its not simple. We only read 5 chp to judge the character lol.
oh you're doing too much. he's a grown ass man. he has a job. he pays taxes. he fucks around. he literally can just go "hey i think ik how you feel about me but i'm sorry i can't reciprocate" boom done. he's not being avoidant out of fear for his life. he's doing so bc he just can't be fucking bothered, and he knows damn well he's leading the mc on at times and involving other ppl in his drama. that's messy behavior. being in a big friend group i have had friends liking me and i've always shut that shit down as soon as i found out, bc i'm grown and can advocate for myself. if i'm truly uncomfortable, i would entirely avoid that persom until they get the hint and fuck off, not do all this extra shit and taunting someone who cares for that person and asking if they let that person hit. not being an asshole is the bare minimum of being a functioning member of society lmao
Babes, now you're projecting. All I said was it was simple, consequences of saying those things are a are a different matter. I agree though, there are adults that are not right in the head, there are people that take things too far when it comes to rejection. However, this seems unlikely for the characters in these manhwas, because they're normal fucking people. (aside from that asshole sunbae who thinks avoiding the situation is gonna do him any better) Yes, he isn't entitled to give back MC's feelings, but knowing you do and acting indifferent and then trying to play cupid is a very asshole move. Based on your replies, you assume a lot about the MC as well, like how you think he's the "easily depressed" type, well I guess it's a fair assumption that the sunbae is an asshole, and we can leave it at that.
You said it perfectly. I was going to reply to OP again but you said exactly what I wanted to say. Sunbae is not saying anything just because he can't be bothered, and he IS sort of "responsible" for MC's feelings if he's supposedly his friend, like, what kind of friend drags you around when they know how you feel?
I can see why he likes "delinquent" types, it's because he's just an asshole, lol. I'm so not interested in his story if it ever comes.
I dont dislike him per say. a lot of good people will often take the path of least resistance and ignore or not talk about feelings. But i think theres something more here. He has some past or some rational not yet divulged. Also kind of weird how he giggled about mc in pain after yaknow, when he knew mc was doing it for him.
Lmao the same as mc he is a fawking grown man who should be able to handle his feelings on his own. The double standard yall having is crazy. And again why should he be responsible for another GROWN MAN feelings when he done nothing but treat him well? And are you the author? Yall only read few chapters that barely even explore their characters background yall be creating your own narrative abt the characters. And pls the character is not you and you are not them. Just bcs you can do it doesn't mean others also can so stop projecting your idealism on what to do on the character lol. Plus your situation and relationship with your 'big friend group' is entirely different than them lol. Idgaf abt what you do in life and not interested in it. And still the hate towards the sunbae is so forced acting like he the villain of th century when all he did was ignore the signals and set up the mc with ml lol.
Pffttt no one gaf or force you to read his story. lol I mean yall can't even handle a character with a little bit complex behaviour
Saying me projecting when yall the one keep projecting this 'adult' steorotype on him and him only when all of them are adults but when i do the same its projecting lol. And how do we even know they are a normal fucking ppl? We only read A FAWKING 11 CHAPTERS of the story where 3/4 of it are abt ml and mc. WE DON'T FAWKING EXPLORE MORE ABT THE BACKGROUND OF THE CHARACTER YET but yall dump all of it on the sunbae when all he did is not rejecting UNCONFESSED feeling from his friend. And talking abt my assumption when yall are the one forcing your assumptions to me 1st in the reply lol.
Exactly i for one think his character is very interesting and would love to explore more abt him. God im thankful enough it won't be a love triangle with messy misunderstanding and miscommunication lol.
People are mad bc hes manipulative AND hes intentionally leading the MC on. Giving hope when you know there's none is wrong too. He was even creating misunderstandings on purpose to get the MC to give uo his feelings instead of being a grown ass adult and using his words. Im sorry but if my friend did that to me. I would never speak to them again. That's messed up
Not as embarrassing as being lead on and manipulated, be so fr. The sunbae isn't a villain but hes definitely NOT right with how he's delt with everything. If he was a true friend he would set boundaries and if the MC couldn't handle that, then the friendship would just end. That's normal, friendships end all the time. They've been friends for 7 years and the sunbae has known about the MC's feelings since high-school. Pretty crazy how he knows hes been acting overly close with the MC, so much so, that strangers think they're dating.
You're jumping hurdles to justify hus actions. It was wrong plan and simple. What youre saying is incredibly selfish. Yes, you are responsible if you intentionally lead someone on and mess with their feelings. He knew since high-school... continued to play with the MC's feelings. Go back and read the first few chapters. Even the MC is confused as to why the sunbae is acting so close and saying its suspicious. Anyways, most emotionally mature people will realize that the sunbae's actions were over the top and not the proper way to deal with someone having a crush on you. Its not really considerate to create misunderstandings just to get someone to give up on their feelings for you, when you haven't even confessed. The MC doesnt know that his sunbae figured out YEARS ago that he likes him. I could never do that to someone. If I know, I'll let them know where I stand. Its not hard or embarrassing to be up front about someone's feelings. If the friendship ends so be it. You'll meet hundreds of people throughout life, and many will leave and few will stay. Thats the norm, the sunbae would eventually get with someone and they would grow apart naturally. If he didn't want to confront MC, then he should have left it alone.
FR, it was so selfish and manipulative on the sunbaes part. How he felt with Hyunjin's feelings is cruel and immature.
Being a manipulation asshole is not "complex behavior"
This story is mostly about the other characters, not sunbae, and he's not a "complex character" by any means lol
Lmao you are the one mentioning not reading his story lol. I didn't say this is his story but he is one of the important characters in the story no matter how much yall cry abt it lol. And are you the author? Did you create the character to determine whether he is complex or not pffft. All those analysis are from 11 chapter with barely panel abt sunbae pov im ctfu.
Manipulative and all he did was staging a blowing eyes act and hanging out with him lol. And isnt the mc the same by manipulating ml? Mind you some of those ppl in the reply suggesing him saying he has girlfriend or smthg like what the difference btween that and the act? Idk if i miss a panel but i don't notice the sign of him 'giving hope' to him? And i didn't say he 100% right but its feels off seeing ppl want him to take responsibility on mc feelings when there's also an option for mc to confess and get rejected. And pls this is not a story abt you lmao. You are not the mc so we never know how the mc feels abt it lol
I didn't he was 100% right but i think both of them shoulf be blame instead of put ALL THE BLAME on sunbae like that. And yes there's possibility of the relationship ending and we didn't if that's the reason he didn't mentioned it like we only have 11 chapters out to explore their characters yet ppl are singling out sunbae like he is the main villain. Plus i don't think sunbae the only one being overly close both of them are doing it? Why only blame sunbae?
Again its not abt you. Bear in mind you are not the mc. Im not justifying his action im just questioning how unfair and the double standard the readers are towards him. And you are most emotionally mature person will know this and that but the things is we don't know much abt him to say he is emotionally mature. Instead ppl keep projecting he already one bcs he is adult blah blah when we know nothing abt his life from before to say that he is one. Things that works out for you doesn't mean it will work out on other and vice versa but i don't think it was bad bcs everyone live differently and we learn from life.
Lmao yep he definitely a complex character the way yall be jumping on him lol. The bar for manipulation is definitely low here. I guess all the characters in the story are manipulating asshole bcs they are using eo lol
Complex behavior where??? He’s an avoidant jerk that’s basically it babes. I don’t know why you just can’t admit he’s an asshole LMFAO, cause that’s the only point we’re making here
From the start lmao
From the start lmao
From the start lmao
No one wants him to "take responsibility" for Hyunjin's feelings. I have not seen one comment and I clicked through them all. They don't even want Hyunjin and the sunbae together. Also, no need to be a bitch, jesus Gurl, relax. I never put myself in the MC's shoes. I'm not even into men. Projecting much? If you didn't want people to explain why others are "mad" at the sunbae, then don't ask.
Bc having a crush on your friend is not a crime be so fr
Again, what's with the projecting? By your logic I can say the exact same to you. This entire time you've been trying so hard to defend this sunbae. Why? Do you relate with the sunbae? Why are you making this about you?
Lmaooo not this mfs think i want him to be with sunbae lol. And mfs are being a bitch abt other ppl opinion and coke rant on every reply bcs they keep putting their position on mc lol. Um who even care you like men or not. Not putting yourself in mc position like you literally keep saying if it were me in your replies lol. And its not even a question lol. Im expressing that i couldn't fathom the hate ppl giving to him just bcs he didn't want to address anything abt mc feelings and just treat him like usual. Yall the one who keep shoving ridiculous excuses to paint him the villain he is not lol. Anyway just wait till chp 24
Btw by responsibility here i do not mean accepting his feelings but going out of his way to reject him without getting confessed bruh.
Wow, you're actually so confused. This is sad. Hes a two dimensional character. There is no complexity. Sorry to burst your bubble but hes not a manipulative asshole bc hes using ego. He's just manipulative amd that does not make him a complex character. For now, hes just a side character to build up the MC and ML's relationship.
Lmaoo bcs i think its ridiculous to be judging him from all those 11 chp lol when he barely did things to mc. And look at you trying to put words in my mouth lol. You are the one who keep making this abt you instead of the character lol.
Obviously you care, since you keep trying to say im placing myself in the MCs position and whatnot. Again, no one is painting him the villain. He made some shitty decisions and the readers are allowed to think so and to disagree with it. He was being an asshat.
No I'm not, you're seriously so weird for that. I was giving an example of how ridiculous you sound by saying I am. Which you're still doing.
Oh wow look at you trying to twist thing out. Why can't a 2d character become complex? I think its much interesting having a 2d complex character than meeting one irl lol. Aren't they based on human too? No wonder yall can't handle him lol. Awww then im sorry to burst your bubble but he is still a complex character to me and not manipulative as yall projecting in your delusion just bcs he didn't act like how yall want him to be. Ofc he is a side character and there's nothing wrong with it lol.
Do you not know what "accepting his feelings" means? If you didn't mean that, then use the words you actually meant to say. God lord. Also, you do not have to accept feelings to reject them. Do you mean acknowledge the MCs feelings? Bc yeah, he'd have to do that to confront the MC and set boundaries.
Lmao sure and you are absolutely weird for your obsession on painting the character for s1 he is not and keep projecting yourself as mc. I guess we seems weird to eo lol.
I'm not twisting your words. You can go back and read what you replied. Also, two dimensional not 2D. It means a character who is simple and lacks depth.
I mean, you can think what you want but you're the minority and he was objectively being manipulative. Look up the definition if you have to. He was straight up manipulating the ML and MC.
Bcs that's what you literally did few replies ago saying if its happens to you would feels this and do this when you know damn well your feel =/= mc feels. No one is painting him as villain yet i hv seen ppl curse him and all. And the readers also allowed to have a different opinion abt him and how they view him as a character and disagree with it especially under their own replies. He is a complex character lol
And so did knowing abt other feelings and not addressing their feelings before they confessed lol
Yikes, no one is obsessing over this except for you. Youre determined to paint the sunbae as someone innocent while denying the actual storyline. He is not a villain but he's also not a saint. If you want to ignore parts of his character then go for it. What a weird hill to die on.
Okay? I commented that bc its easy to empathize with the MC. His story is easy to sympathize with. That's what stories/novels/books are supposed to do. Evoke emption and thought. What do you think you're doing right now? Youre only defending him bc you FEEL the need too. Even if you dont say outright that you sympathize/empathize with the sunbae, every reply you give states you do. You're entirely biased and refuse to see it from any point but yours. Which is fine. But don't ask questions if you don't want answers.
When he started involving others and manipulating the MC it became a problem which is why people are so irritated with the sunbae. If you cant understand that, then your comprehension is lacking.
Lmao ok i guess sorry for thought it was the technical meaning but i still stand by my point. yall didn't give it time before the author could give more depth on his characters and just making this whole new character description in your mind based on 11 chapter and label him as an manipulative asshole lol. And what's wrong with the minority? Since when did the minority can't have their own opinion? I can't actually said it was minority though when the likes and dislike almost the same. Im ctfu this grand manipulating act being asking ml blowing dust into his eyes so mc could give up liking him and saying ml his type. Yall are so cute for that. Sure I guess lol. Btw i need to shower i will be back after that.
Girl do you not have a job? Career? School? It's time to touch some grass
Also, some of us have read the raws. These are not conclusions I'm making out of 12 translated chapters. Sunbae is not horrible but he's a little bit of an ass, and honestly the main story is 10 times more interesting.
Lmao now instead of mischaracterise the character you want to mischaracterise me with bullshit assumptions just bcs i reply on every replies under my OWN COMMENT lol. I think you can use the advice on yourself bcs atp you are the one who did not have a job, career or school bcs you keep coming back to spread more bullshit. Stop projecting and touch some grasss lol
Pfffttt all that reading but still manage to mischaracterise him. I also read the raw lol and by yall standard everyone in the story is an ass i guess. Lmao just bcs you think its interesting doesn't mean i will. Im not obliged to agree with you abt everything and so do you lmao. Plus idgaf if you feel the main are more interesting bcs for me the sunbae have more potential for a 100x times interesting plot which we probably see in s2 seeing how author hinting a new character lol. Go cry abt it
By involving others do you refer to ml? Bcs if im not mistaken all he did was introduce him and just say he is probably his type? Adding with the blowing eyes act. And the rest was mc and ml choice? Atp all of them are manipulating eo by your standard. If you can't understand that i guess yall just lack of observation and characterisation.
FR, thats what most people were saying in the comments. But OP would rather ignore the fact the sunbae was being an ass. Even though thats how he was written. The raws are definitely easy to find and get a rough translation. Its not worth it speaking to the OP, the asked a question in bad faith. They didn't want an actual answer, just to bitch and argue with anyone who replies (about how everyone in the comments is making the sunbae out to be a villain, which isn'teven true) I'm over this discussion and will be muting it.
womp womp jobless whiner
Lmaoo bcs i hv read the raw im more confident he was not tht asshole yall be claiming. He has his reason but yall are the one who won't acknowledge and understand but straight on label him for that bcs he is just a side characters. If yall want to call him an ass so bad yall need to be fair and call the whole characters ass including the ml and mc. What with the 2x standard lol
And yall are the one being a bitch and start projecting onto mc under my replies when no one ask you to but then get defensive bcs i still didn't agree with you lol. What a fawking loser.
Pffttt what a fawking loser. What are you a 10 years old. No wonder you got the problem understanding i guess your brain still under develop lmao. Go have a life outside your dark corner for once lol.
The only defensive one here is you lmao and you've clearly lost it Have the day you deserve
I've also read the raws lol but okay, keep yapping and running in circles. Like I said, you'd rather ignore everything people have pointed out to you and why he was a jerk. Anyways, I'm out. You're clearly a weirdo.
Lmao tht uninvited loser @sky say they gonna finally mute yet they still want to have the last bit of the conversation and block before i get to cook them up again lmao. Jumping into others replies and having a coke rant spree, mischaracterise the character and keep twisting trying to label him and projecting themselves to mc than admit all of them are asshole by their standard instead of singling him out lmaoo. Nah the only weirdo around here is @Sky who get defensive and start label other ppl when their opinion was rejected lol. Get a life loser lmao.
Lmao tht uninvited loser @sky say they gonna finally mute yet they still want to have the last bit of the conversation and block before i get to cook them up again lmao. Jumping into others replies and having a coke rant spree, mischaracterise the character and keep twisting trying to label him and projecting themselves to mc than admit all of them are asshole by their standard instead of singling him out lmaoo. Nah the only weirdo around here is @Sky who get defensive and start label other ppl when their opinion was rejected lol. Get a life loser lmao.
Pfft ofc bcs its my comment and im defending my opinion. Yall are so brave to insert your bullshit everywhere but got bitter when ppl dont agree with yall bullshit then start playing victim and calling ppl names lmaoooo. I hv never met someone so jobless and loser like user @Sky lol. If i were to label them i would say these ppl are the perfect example of a Karen lol. The world does not revolve around you bitch
God the plot is a mess like what's even the point going through all tht shit
One question does mc have romace relationship i don't want to waste my time reading this if he does
It's complicate, just read.
There's no real romance here. Just a dude collecting ppl like pokemon and using them for his goals and he happens to seduce some of them to capture them to his side.
Thank you so much for this. Now i can start reading lol.
Like there's bromance but romance is complicated
Spoiler
He manipulate the women he's with. It doesn't seem like he love them. He's just using them, he is very clear about that. But some of them do like him romanticly tho
The thing with Kiyoung is he LOVES strong women but not emotionally though. He just loves taking advantage of them. Kinda likes he doesn’t sexualize them like most of men does. Lol.
What tht creepy producer needs to go to jail bruh. And bruh i wish they didn't waste the chp on the 2nd couple. IDGAF ABT THAT DAMN BISH
IM VERY GLADDDD HE DIDN'T END UP WITH THT OTHER GUY BCS YURI IS WAY BETTER. I LOVE THE SIDE STORY SO MUCH AND I LOVE THE FACT XINLU IS THE YEARNER ITS SO CUTE.
but damn the age gap irks me so much
The other guy? Who are u referring to?
I think they're talking bout tay lmao
What a weirdo... Reminder that Xinlu beats up Yuri Gable. Absolutely weirdo
Nah I don't think they meant it like that i think they meant the dynamic between yuri and xinlu is better. But the way they said it is off
yeah, because being beaten off but a guy who had clear disgust with u is somehow a better dynamic. they seem like a child anyway
I meannn gable never felt disgust towards xinlu. And for xinlu he feels disgusted cus he misunderstood how yuri sees him. Later in the novel xinlu is the one yearning for yuri love which creates such a cute green flagged dynamic and in my opinion they're the healthiest couple in the passion series.
You severely misunderstood me, anyway, let's just keep this off, I don't want notifications
Tf you are the weird ass bitch. Why are you being so bitter abt s1 else opinion? And there's no correlation between xinlu beating him up with me saying yuri is WAY BETTER THAN THE OTHER GUY IN EVERY ASPECT? Its all about how they treat and handle xinlu you stupid bitch. Fucking bitter ass bitch. Ppl judging xinlu yuri when the main exist is so weird especially if any of you actually like ilay ew
Lmao if you haven't read the novel maybe just stfu instead of being bitter abt it in other ppl comment. And YES THEY ARE THE BETTER DYNAMIC THAN WHOEVER YOUR FAV DYNAMIC IS STUPID BITCH
No why they killed tiger so early btw fawk tht stupid prince i like mc with the commander more lmao
Bro just get s1 new im sure you can s1 better than tht guy