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There's my answer...
In the words of young and weird soul named Lucas...
"I Don't Man~"
I get what the author is doing and it's prolonged and dated. I don't care anymore about the Xai Run and Siwon, even Jinha. This "fake" drama is giving me the ulcers.
There is not reason why Siwon doesn't know this Chinese guy is spitting utter BS. And the fact he is continuously walking into his traps really drives me insane. It's like the author is trying to make sure Siwon is as dumbas a bag of bricks.
Just let this end so my misery can too. I'm not rooting for any character at this point and sure as hell don't care anymore about who deserves who. Donghyuk or whatever his name is barking up the wrong tree or what that saying is
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He's mad Jinha didn't realize how "upset" Siwon was this whole time. I'm sorry I didn't realize people have to stop being upset when the person they're mad at gets upset too. It's called being mad at each other for a reason.
Siwon is a clueless moron, Jinha is a bubble of angst, Xian Run is a narcissistic privilege prick, and Donghyuk or whatever is the Second lead syndrome character.
No one is a good, well developed, and interesting character. This "story" is getting more and more painful to read.
If it is getting painful to read then leave and come back til its completed or just leave (¬_¬) and the reason to why siwon fell into that china bastards trap is because siwon wanted to know what was with jinha or smth atleast the manhwa is telling a story do you even know how difficult it is to write a story and draw beautiful art?? (ーー;)
Being someone who does appreciate beautiful art and stories. Yes I always give an artist credit for their work. Did I ever say the author/artist isn't talented? Did I once discredit their hard work? No. I'm sorry that it hurts the artist that people like myself don't like where the story is going, but I'm not sorry for feeling how I do.
The artist lost their way with the story and you can't say they haven't. You even said that it's hard to write a manhwa and make beautiful art. While that is true, it's not really an excuse for the story being badly written. That's not a good way to give feed back to any artist. They need to see the flaws to know what isn't considered good or bad.
Yes I may not like where the story is going but this is MY personal feelings because I saw the potential the story had just about 20 chapters back. But the story is lost in it's own world by trying to give a "deeper" story. The story has all the elements to be emotional and heart tugging with using the abusive background of Jinha's childhood. Even Siwon has a strong story, his struggle to understand his new sexuality/lover and his strength to be a manga artist. So you don't have to tell me to leave because you don't like my feelings being written out.
This is a story open for conversations, we are adults (well I am because I have no idea how old you are). So nothing wrong with seeing others opposite feelings than your own.
But to each their own I guess ╮(￣▽￣)╭
You know what is sad...I didn't even read this chapter. I seriously read the first page and then skipped to the last one and was not even remotely shocked to see him about to become the new Anastasia Steele in Xuan Run's Fifty Shades of Grey.
Is Jinha a character anymore? Where was the plot going before? What happened to Jinha's horrible father? His trauma from his mother's suicide and abuse? What about Simon's love to become a manhwa artist? His fear to be himself or standing up to his dad?
What happened to the fucking plot line in general? I mean God dammit ヽ(`Д´)ﾉ
we got so close to seeing real character development with love, trust, and hardships only for this story to become a young fan girls kinky fantasy.
I wanted a story with new and creative character's, and with real depth; not this 2D bullshit. Which is utter bullshit. I see many on here that agree with me that no matter how much kink is in a story. It's just not worth this agony.
Also this story has definitely taken the turn for the worst if fan's are excited for the third wheel/supporting character that is "EVIL" might I say--to see him actually end up with our MC.
Yeah...so much for TRUE love or friendship #－.－)
Agree completely. I can't help make comparisons with this series to "Lover boy". Siwon and Jinha are around the same age Eunho is now (in the latest chapters), so after Eunho's major growth as a character, and maturing Whereas Siwon, especially comes off as still stuck being a kid with no development. The other series involved one sided childhood "crush", but there was a lot of backstory, context, and focus and communication when Eunho and the artist were adults to make the story feel believable and full of depth. Siwon doesn't accept being in a same sex relationship, just as the artist in Lover boy struggled with his sexual identity, but the latter was explained in a far more age appropriate (they aren't tweens or teens but men in their twenties and thirties ffs) and realistic way, with the right slow pace rather than this series which is extreme drama after another with little real emotion and communication.
I'm just going to ignore the whole bullshit magic stones and memory loss, as they were pointless contributions to what should have been quite a serious story about a man who has grown up, a victim of child abuse and who is trying to reconnect with his first friend, and explaining the unhealthy aspect of this just like it showed in Lover boy.
That was a bit of a ramble, but hopefully you get the jist of my point :)
I didnt mean to down vote
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I had read the first 20 months ago, and today i read the last 40 (appr).... I have to say i was utterly disappointed. I didn't care about the stone because ìt was part of the story from the beggining and the mangaka wanted to have a supernatural vibe in the manhwa, but the plot is all over the place. Some things don't even add up and it seems that there are huge plot holes, like black ones sucking up everything. I am sure that saiki's father from the disastrous life of saiki k. is the editor...(⊙…⊙ )
I agree with you on everything you said. but I feel it won't get better and I lost all of hope on this ╮(￣▽￣)╭ I"m reading this just to see how worse it can get.
Oh. My. God someone that gets my point!! Yes!
Your explanation is exactly what I was going for. The character arms, development stages, age range and growth. The fact that Siwon is a young twenty-something year man bothers me more. These men are way too old to be making these childlike decisions and/or reactions. I get it, his sexuality is a hard th ing to adjust to, but the immature tantrums or freak outs are completely uncalled for. He could handle his maturity better; the author could have had his character dig deeper into his true self and communicate to Jinha his feelings. Grow his character, but instead he makes the dumbest decisions EVER. Such as having drinks with the man that he knows wants to ruin his and Jinha's "relationship".
And with Jinha...let's face it. The author is obviously over his childhood trauma. It wasn't obviously traumatic and he never faced child abuse almost all his young childhood *sarcasm* we're suppose to assume he's all better now that his so called "best friend" is here.
Man this manhwa is making me stressed. I'm only reading it because I hate ending stories mid-way.
Same here honey I'm reading this because I hate unfinished stories （￣へ￣）
I 100% agree. The plot holes are tremendous, so I know for a fact they will only continue to increase. The stones are obviously fillers for convenience to the story for the creator. I always found them useless. When I began this story months ago I thought I had something worth my time. I would tell my sister (big manhwa fan too) about it and say she should try it out. Now I warn her to never start it. This story is an utter disaster and I will only see through because I don't like unfinished things. ┑(￣Д ￣)┍
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THIS FUCKING LITTLE BOY IS A GOD DAMN IDIOT!
If you have pictures next to dictionary words. Next to Moron, Immature, and Stupidity would be Simon's picture
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I can't take him anymore, he's driving me insane. I don't know what to even say about this manhwa up to this point. I'm just reading it to finish it.
I'm not sad; not even remotely unhappy about Jinha's decision to drop Siwon. He admitted his faults and asked a very logical question. "Can you handle our relationship?"
Siwon gave his answer with that dreaded silence. He can cry all he wants, he didn't chase after Jinha. He never made a move to win him back. He let the rest of the semester go by like nothing.
To me he never even once tried to openly love Jinha. He's not strong enough and personally I'm tired of waiting for him to come to a resolve.
It's not the 70s, 80s, 90s, Hell even the 20s. It's 2017 or 18...and he still can't fathom his own love for man. It's not unheard of, just not super open. Nobody is gonna pitchfork his dumbass and set him on fire. At most they act immature and say stupid things. Wowwwww so terrifying （￣へ￣）
Now he decides that I'm gonna have drinks with the ONE man that will do anything to force me to like him...Yeah...such a smart idea
(╬￣皿￣)凸 ¡maldita sea coño! Pendejo!!!
WHO THE FUCK IS SIMON??????????????????????????????????????
Calm down dude, they misspelled Siwon.
Hahaha...auto correct is an ass...I meant Siwon lol
Thank you for clearing that up for me(⌒▽⌒)
i am calm i was just being animated because its sounds better as a joke than just asking
"who is simon"
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THIS FUCKING LITTLE BOY IS A GOD DAMN IDIOT!
If you have pictures next to dictionary words. Next to Moron, Immature, and Stupidity would be Simon's picture
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I can't take him anymore, he's driving me insane. I don't what to even say about this manhwa up to this point. I'm just reading it to finish it.
I'm not sad not even remotely unhappy about Jonah's decision to drop Siwon. He admitted his faults and asked a very logical question. "Can you handle our relationship?"
Siwon gave his answer with that dreaded silence. He can cry all he wants, he didn't chase after Jinha. He never made a move to win him back. He let the rest of the semester go by like nothing.
To me he never even once tried to openly love Jinha. He's not strong enough and personally I'm tired of waiting for him to come to a resolve.
It's not the 70s, 80s, 90s, Hell even the 20s. It's 2017 or 18...and he still can't fathom his own love for man. It's not unheard of, just not super open. Nobody is gonna pitchfork his dumbass and set him on fire. At most they act immature and say stupid things. Wowwwww so terrifying （￣へ￣）
Now he decides that I'm gonna have drinks with the ONE man that will do anything to force me to like him...Yeah...such a smart idea
(╬￣皿￣)凸 ¡maldita sea coño! Pendejo!!!
Oh hell! (╯°Д °)╯╧╧
I'm about to rant! Don't read if you hate long essay like opinions.
Jesus Christ! I feel like pulling my hair from the roots for how much I want to punch something. Why is this story giving me headaches and anxiety?!
At first when I started this I thought it would push the boundary of acceptance and the hardships of being in love with someone of the the same sex. Then some cute fluffy bunny shit. But here I am over 50 chapters in and there is so many dumbass filler chapters or insane plot changes.
Why can't Siwon just sit down, take in a god damn deep breath and figure out for 'REAL' if he is even remotely ready for his relationship with Jinha to take off. Or even figure out if he wants to be with a man in the damn first place?
All this back and forth...
"I think I love him...No I don't...but I do...but I shouldn't...but I miss him...but it's wrong...but it's him...but...BUT BUT BUT!!!" Σ(っ°Д °;)っ
Boy if you don't just freaking figure it out already--damn!
It's not rock science. Either you can handle the hardship of loving a man in a conservative country with some possible set backs or you leave him. No if, ands, or buts about it.
Now...Xia Run...however you spell his damn name. This was by far the creepiest he's ever been. The actual pictures of him raping Siwon and holding him hostage was freaking weird.
Plus I have no idea what's his true self. If its the soft confession just now or the shit that's flowing through his or Jinhas heads.
Also, there is no way in hell Siwon shouldn't slap him the next update. If he doesn't; I will climb into the story like the k-drama 'W' and slap both of them. And then proceed to steal Jinha away.
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The best comment ever so far (≧∀≦)
Hahaha love the comment
Lol thanks...I'm just a very frustrated girl right now. Please don't mind my craziness
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One of the few relationships out of a lot of manga/manhwas I've read that is genuine. I see everyone wants Maya to be this perfect guy that doesn't lie and appreciate every ounce of Nemu but that wouldn't be an appealing story, would it?
I like things like this. Simple mistakes and arguments. They test the waters of the relationship, the do's and don't's but in the end love is stronger. Maya adores the ground Nemu walks on and Nemu is head over heels in love with Maya.
Nemu is too insecure and sensitive and that's fine when you're dating the sexiest guy from your high school. And Maya is an air head and temperament guy who is afraid of making his boyfriend worry. Two polar opposites will have many downfalls.
This is neither boy's fault so I don't see why Maya is the bad guy. In the first few chapters early on; I got it. He was a jerk and forced himself on Nemu. But he's learned and grown up a lot (not completely) but enough.
Anyway...I just feel like white lies are a relationship must because it just shows boys will be boys and things we don't like happens. No need to look for a new guy to make matters escalate into a very harsh break up guys. If this was a real couple--that could actually end the relationship for good. Trust me, I've seen it happen.
Guys lie to stop their boy/girlfriend from crying and freaking out over nothing. And boy/girlfriends cry and grow paranoid over everything.
Love makes your scared.
Can't wait for more!(▰˘◡˘▰)
Disagree. If your partner keeps lying to you, you better get out of that relationship real quick. If you can’t trust your significant other not to lie/not to overreact, then that person is not the right partner for you. Life’s too short to stay in bad relationships.;)
Agree
Right!
I understand where your coming from. But that's if the lies are truly toxic and the partner lying is definitely causing their loved one harm (emotionally or physically) cheating, abuse, ignoring, etc...
What Maya does is basically white lies of stupidity. He thinks lying to Nemu is better than facing his hurt or negative feelings. It's classic of everyone to hide things that they may think is nothing but their partners may think differently.
That can cause arguments but does that mean it should be the ending of a possibly great relationship? This is all personal opinions of course and I think asking for a break up or serious distrust in Maya now is just pointless. I believe Nemu should stand up for himself and tell Maya to stop lying to protect his "feelings" and work from there. Isn't that the basics of a relationship? People shouldn't want a fantasy relationship where everything is perfectly laid out and everyone is open about everything.
Life is too short; I agree. But It's not worth running away when things aren't going your way, then maybe staying out of a relationship is the best option for now and grow as an individual. Life is too short to give up on possibly the best thing that's helped you grow over the years.
Yeah he is hiding it to avoid seeing Nemu getting hurt or nervous. The problem is that if he keeps doing that Nemu will not grow up and learn how to cope with situations
I agree with this one. Maya did lie to protect Nemu. I know it's still wrong and Nemu still got hurt. But Maya surely did learn fron his mistake, that's why he promised to tell Nemu everything from now on. It's not like he always lie to him.
Yeah this is what I was basically saying. If Maya was a constant liar and always hid every single thing from Nemu then I would be all for Nemu moving on. But Maya hasn't done anything in a little while deserve getting dumped for a failed white lie.
But it's too soon to tell if he's gonna do it again, so the whole Nemu growing up thing isn't vaild yet. It's too soon to determine anything at this point; that's why I was confused by everyone jumping to conclusion that Maya was turning into pathological liar basically. He lied once to Nemu from what I recall lately and got caught. He felt bad and apologized. Not need to run off with another man. ╮(￣▽￣)╭
No no i totally agree. I mean it's the first lie he said and everyone is already like "break up! He's toxic!" But it's never happened before and it's also a silly lie. Everyone lies sometimes to partners and friends so it's not something that big, also he didn't go cheat or anything
YASSSS! ヽ(`Д´)ﾉ
My prayers have been answered! And to think Joohoon was in on it (He's still evil as hell) but he earn a teeny tiny bonus point for fucking with Jiwook.
God I've been dying for someone to Jiwook the hell up lol. Thank god it was Woojinლ(´ڡ`ლ)
Oh come on! Stop talking and stop that Joohoon from raping your man.
And Jesus I love how this whole convo is so...calm and collected like shit isn't being weird...like Taemin isn't about to raped, Jiwook didn't plan his "brothers" rape AGAIN, Joohoon isn't just being a serial rapist AGAIN, and Woojin isn't just talking likes a sunday brunch. ┑(￣Д ￣)┍
They do realizes what's going on right? Also Jiwook is so blindly stupid my eyes are beginning to bleed from his constant whinning...like god--boy grow a pair balls. Damn shame you did all that to Siwon just for an ego boost. That's some sick shit right there. (︶︿︶)＝凸 he makes me want to vomit. I can't imagining having an inferior complex but even if I did...can't he run away like a normal teenager? Rebel and get tattoos? So stupid basic ass shit lol
Nope he gotta have his brother raped for his own enjoyment...twisted I tell you...
I just binged BJ Alex in these two days and I will say that I like where this is going. I enjoy the boys and by boys I mean Jiwon and Donggyun. But there are times where Jiwon was being a manipulative asshole: Using his power over Donggyun was sometimes cringeworthy. But!
But Donggyun is not a child, yes he is only 19 I believe, but he is an adult in most places. He knew what he was signing up for with Jiwon. Jiwon was clear from day one that he was not in it for love. Of course he fell in love too (not shocking) but he was honest to the boy. So I wasn't that mad at him when Donggyun almost ruined his work. Because I would have been pissed two, this is his job and DG could have taken that from him. He didn't even try not to fall deeper in love, he was already fantasizing about their future. I feel like the manhwa wants Jiwon to be the bad guy for being cold hearted, but he is an honest man too. He just a young man too, so both of then need to learn to trust more (Jiwon especially)
I guess I just think in real life this is why sleeping with a very big fan could be risky and celebs cross that out quick
Btw, DG is 23 xD
Damn 23?! My bad he seemed so naive that I must have just assumed he wasn't even 20 yet lol