I don't understand how anyone could have read the newest chapter and doesn't see how MD's in the wrong. It's clear Chanwoo is uncomfortable and doesn't want to do that. Random person could see that but not experienced Dom? You call this a full consent? This fine... From page 59? When he was just reminded before that yeah he can leave BUT if he would do that then he is being abandoned.
This is clear manipulation. When sub feels he HAS TO do things he is uncomfortable with and doesn't want to do because he will be abandoned.
And what's worse MD knows that Chanwoo has problems with refusing and saying no and he is taking full advantage of that.
Seriously there is a difference between fully consensual, healthy BDSM where both parties are satisfied and content with the play and this something on the verge of abuse disguised as BDSM play.
Right? I’m so tired of these comments not knowing what safe, consensual bdsm plays are, passing off the anger-driven acts by MD as only a “bdsm play”
THANK YOU!
People are literally not taking the difference in experience between Chanwoo and MD, especially the difference in power level.
The fact that MD iis literally using emotional blackmail is going over people's head. It's ok if he did that and wasn't in a BDSM relationship but he is. There are rules to it that he should not step over because it can be dangerous.
I don't understand how you don't see MD said to Chanwoo he could fuck off if he didn't want to, but Chanwoo decided on his own to stay like a bitch. You're fucking blind.
You are fuxking ignorant. Can't help you.
If someone you loved told you to leave, but if you do, they’ll choose someone else, would you? Nothing is ever clean and simple. Not to mention that Chanwoo is an abuse victim, too.
Oh so Chanwoo LOVES MD now? LOLOLOLOL you made me spit my coffee you dumbass, did you even read the story? If Chanwoo loves MD, why the fuck did he reject MD then went after some random dude? You are just fucking stupid
You're a fucking dumb whore, you should help yourself first before even thinking about helping other people
You act like plebeian and can't make any logical argument. But what can we do.
completely agree. thank you for your comment. :] i don't know how much more transparent it can be than this.
Yes, if YOU’ve been reading the story, you’d see that Chanwoo wants to stay with MD, but doesn’t want it to end up like his past, abusive relationships. In order to prove that he is capable of forming normal relationships to keep his relationship with MD, he introduces him to another guy. I really don’t need a child to be calling me “fucking stupid” when you don’t consider the psychology and depth behind the characters, these characters aren't as 2D as you think.
Don’t bother with that person, they’re just a troll. Report them and move on, they’re not worth your time.
i completely agree with you. MD is using emotional manipulative tactics because he knows chanwoo won't say no. that's his nature and that's how chanwoo is used to being treated. yes, that is a fault chanwoo has but that doesn't give MD the right to tell chanwoo be alone or compete to be my sub. that is not how healthy BDSM works. also? cussing doesn't make them scarier or sound any more intelligent. i think you're wasting your time talking to a wall.
I really am, but it makes me so sad to see readers excuse MD’s abusive and manipulative behavior on the fact that it’s “just bdsm” and “people have done worse in bdsm”. But those stories often go without consent and are not safe practices. I just hope those same people won’t participate in bdsm because that would not be safe at all for them.
Oh so MD is doing it for Chanwoo's own good. He smirked in a mean way in restaurant... Because.... *Rolling eyes*
It's clear that the main motives are grudge and revange.
Even if he wanted to help Chanwoo with limits problem this is definitely not the good way to approach the subject. It can completely backfired, especially now when Chanwoo is really uncomfortable with the play and in fragile state after being used and rejected by the other sub. He can get seriously hurt. It's really irresponsible on MD's part.
yes I agree, sum people are saying Chanwoo deserved it and are even laughing but for me it seems a lil personal and Chanwoo not wanting to say no even if he feels uncomfortable and he MD even said he can leave and by Chanwoo face he look shock and sad and decidin to go along with it
People who encourage MD to slap, beat Chanwoo harder and saying that he deserves that make me sick. BDSM should never be used in such way. Never.
md stans are sicko
After this chapter I seriously don't want them together. I wouldn't be surprised if MD would shift the elements of their BDSM relationship on romantic one and mix them. I wouldn't be surprised if during argument and in anger he would slap Chanwoo. After seeing how easily he can get really toxic and use power inbalance. How he cares more about his grudge than Chanwoo's wellbeing.
"I wouldn't be surprised if during argument and in anger he would slap Chanwoo." ughhh I felt this :( agree with you completely. I wonder how the author is going to turn this around bc it feels pretty bad.
I'm feeling the exact same way, they should call it quits and move on! I don't see how this can work or become a healthy relationship.
Seriously I'm so disgusted with this comment section. Victim blaming, excusing clear toxic behaviour, all the mind games how MD is doing it for Chanwoo's own good? For real? Because to me the biggest motivation is his grudge. All of you missed that smirk in restaurant?
And I don't even want to start on: he dEsErVeD that, kArMa....
If you are 12 or have absolutely no idea about BDSM or Dom/Sub relationship please stop commenting. "Toxic relationship" omg hilarious....
Oh it's clear you are either young or just ignorant.
BDSM where dom is mixing his feelings and grudge with a play? Where he is taking his anger out on the sub because he had audacity to reject him? Where he makes sub participate in the play and things he is uncomfortable with under disguise of BDSM scene? And he knows sub won't refuse because of conditions he put on him and they are impacting his choices. What's more it was shown that Chanwoo has problems with limits, he didn't say anything while being strangled to death and MD is fully taking advantage of that. He isn't interested in the other sub in the slightest, he is just getting petty revange on Chanwoo.
This isn't good or safe representation of BDSM.
It’s a story why you pressed read and enjoy or move on
Because I can. And ignorance in this commen section is not even funny. It's dangerous for people and the others if they have such a mindset and wrong definitions irl.
EXACTLY!! These ppl definitely don’t know what they’re talking abt, if he wanted to punish him, there’s other ways that they already do, he doesn’t usually slap him and he definitely isn’t ok with it.
I'm done. This comment section is so childish and ignorant it's beyond disturbing. The victim blaming, slut shaming, no understanding of BDSM, justifying abusive and toxic behaviour just because character is hot. I'm done. Live in your bubble.
EXACTLY
Periodt
Anyway - thank you, brave citizen, for your attitude in this matter.
People are literally playing dumb right now. I love this mental gymnastic to make MD's toxic and irresponsible behaviour justified. One of the biggest motivation of MD is GRUDGE after rejection. Let's not play idiots. He has no right to teach anyone a lesson especially in such a toxic manner.
LOUDER PLEASE
SAY IT LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK!!!
I'm honestly disgusted. People that either don't know shit about BDSM using it as an excuse (IT'S NOT) or even worse, saying that it's karma and that he deserved it??? Wtf??? Who deserves to be abused? People are nuts!
What karma? People are you mad? Chanwoo has every right to sleep and be with whomever he wants and it's not MD' business. He wanted his new bf to be approved by MD, wanted to see if MD would be willing to continue their play. It was insensitive. But what MD's doing is on a different level. He is mixing his personal feelings, grudge with the play which is unacceptable. He is making Chanwoo participate in the play with the guy who just used him and rejected him. How insensitive is that? Knowing history of Chanwoo's abusive bfs?
MD's is petty and salty and taking his anger on Chanwoo. There is clear power imbalance. It's not safe BDSM play when sub feels obligated to do things he is uncomfortable with and his choices are impacted by some conditions. It's just wrong.
Chanwoo is a dumbass why would he go out with the first handsome guy that approached him but again he was planning to start hoeing around anyway but he even brought him to introduce him to MD knowing MD wanted to date him couple of weeks ago that's a dick move.personally I can't stand chanwoo now , he has a shitty personality.
He has every right, EVERY right as a free man to date anyone he wants. He wanted approval of his dom, he wanted to see if MD would continue their relationship. It was insesitibr on some level but he wanted clear situation.
Oh so making Chanwoo participate in a scene with the guy who just used him and rejected him isn't insesitve?
1. "Chanwoo is a dumbass why would he go out with the first handsome guy that approached him"
- First, that guy was his type that was also into bdsm and was fine with chanwoo being MD's sub in his streams. Second, they went out on dates probably to get to know each other and that guy pretended to be an "i want to treat you right" kind of guy and can you blame Chanwoo for falling for his act when his previous relationships were abusive and toxic? All Chanwoo wanted was a partner. He legit started liking the dude. If there's anyone you should get angry at, it should be that bastard who used Chanwoo and not Chanwoo himself. I don't understand why you keep hating on Chanwoo when he's the victim here.
2. "he even brought him to introduce him to MD knowing MD wanted to date him a couple of weeks ago"
-It's because he was aware that MD might not be happy if he started going out with someone so he wanted to ask if he is still willing to continue their bdsm play before making things(dating) official with the other guy. Besides, it was the other guy who insisted coming along to meet MD immediately. It's not like Chanwoo intentionally brought him with him just to hurt MD.
Dude it's a comment section not an essay outlet .
I know??? What does that got to do with the topic tho??? Can't you just reply to my arguments with perhaps better arguments instead of complaining how I comment like this is an essay outlet? Lol don't run away.
Nah I'd rather take a nap
You can't really put chanwoo's poor decision making on MD .Besides he did gave him the choice to go with the role-play or not just put your hurt feelings aside and you will get it plus the thing about the slap is blown beyond reason , it's not like he punched until he was bleeding , any master in M&S relationship would've done that to punish his submissive partner and MD has feelings for chawoo so he would never really hurt him.now going back to chanwoo's so stupidity thinking he can actually make a relationship work while he's having a BDSM agreement with someone is idiotic because it can never really work in any shape or form
Lol hun you sound like just because you don't have anything to say or have any better points to rebut my arguments with, you just decided to attack the way I comment lol
but oh well, have a great nap i guess
If that makes feel better , I don't mind . Plus t's not like it's hard core science and you'll save the world by being right .
The fact that MD cares more about the rejection and his grudge than Chanwoo's wellbeing is really upsetting.
Its wrong that his emotions led to this. But what Chanwoo did was upsetting too. Now, I wished they wont end up together. The start seems good but the moment MD caught feelings it went downhill. Chanwoo wanted a serious relationship, MD offered, he rejected. MD choked him (horrible). Again, the same Chanwoo who wanted a serious relationship, went out with multiple guys (ch 87) when MD stopped contacting him. Met the new guy and wants to play with new guys dick, and then wants to date him (but apparently he is after MD). MD slapped him. Everybody went crazy. Now, its too complicated and I’m hating the story more and more. Everything feels contradictory.
Seriously how much someone has to brainwash themselves not to see anything wrong and manipulative with MD's actions. It doesn't have anything to do with normal, consensual BDSM play. It's abuse disguised as one.
Also please it's the THIRD time MD crossed the line. Chapter 37 anybody? And then too personal feelings were mixed into the play and took over his actions.
It just sad how the author and readers brush off his irresponsible behaviour.
Abuse is one thing, but especially when people are calling it bdsm... really pisses me off
MD stans spamming the dislike button pisses me more
exactlyyy
That’s tough