They didn't even tell their son about the person who sacrificed her life for them? That's it, I felt sorry for the sister, but she's a gigantic bitch too. They fully expected him to pry the sword from Wis' dead body and couldn't have the decency to even acknowledge her. I don't want her to end up with this kid. She needs to get as far away from this family as possible and I hope they all die, every single one of them. Please tell me the nephew is not endgame.
see, i NEED them to end up together, lol. for karmic revenge. like the dad's already so jealous of his own son and so uncomfortable around him. if she ended up with the upgraded "perfect" version of himself (as he seems to see it) like NOT ONLY will they HAVE TO acknowledge her and tell their kids about her (or if they don't face what she did for them and what they did to her; make it clear to those involved and possibly the world - that they're pure fucking trash) but they'll also be CONSTANTLY UNCOMFORTABLE SEEING THE WOMAN WHO USED TO LOVE THEM (DAD) & USED TO BE FAMILY (SISTER) HAPPILY TOGETHER WITH THEIR "PERFECT" SON. living their best lives. being much better than they. having a real relationship & understanding and not just an "ah i like her because she's inept like me and hates people with magic like me she's such an uwu damsel"/"i like him because he likes me and treats me well and doesn't love my sister he's so strapping and sweet" relationship like these 2 dipshits. like they're literally so stupid together. i need to see them dying of discomfort every single holiday. i want them to choke on their roast ham or w/e while wisteria & llyod get all sweet across the table from them. i want that mom/sister to know shame & regret and stop acting like the fragile victim ass bitch she been portraying. the regrets the father has need to slap him straight across the face. i want them to have to lower their heads every time wisteria's around.
I wish they had made her hot, tbh. I think its great that its been portrayed with the molester being a woman, but the fact that she's is drawn intentionally unappealing I think takes away from the way this phenomenon gets swept under the rug as boys "scoring" with he hot teacher. Oh, ok, so when the teacher is overweight and perhaps not classically beautiful then it's clearly wrong. Does that mean if she were traditionally beautiful and fit, her actions would not be just as disgusting? I think they missed a huge opportunity here.
IKR
literally. imagine if most of yaoi/pedo/dub-con mangas was actually drawn with the ml/pedo being fat and ugly. then he'd actually be called out for his actions like the usual rape/sa/predatory/grooming behaviour and not get simped on by the entirety of the fanbase. in this case if a hot man were to try and rape the mc there'd be one weirdo in this site that'd ship them
No its cause people usually use scenes like this to portray a hot teacher with a younger guy but because this is not trying to romanticize something so gross there is no point in making her look cute. I think this author wants to have more freedom in her character designs and dynamics. A hot teacher pedo has been done so many times, this teacher seems to be more complex of a villain which I like
ya’ll are fucking weird for wanting a molester to look hot tf
I guess you didn't read it properly
I did but bro whenever she is beautiful or not, a predator remains a predator, and no amount of physical appeal can ever excuse the trauma they inflict.
I kinda get cuz I low key got her build
That's exactly what I mean. The way in which she is drawn is objectively unappealing, her features are exaggerated to look bad and her proportions don't go well with those of the rest of the characters. There was effort to make her ugly. It bothers me, because her thought process would have been just as disgusting in a normal looking, or even beautifully drawn character. They are just as disgusting. But by making her objectively ugly they are concealing that core disgust of the act of being a pedo itself, with the secondary reason that she is just disgusting looking (like when the blond guy called her a pig). Sure, she looks disgusting, so its just natural that her actions are disgusting. That is the message that they are sending. Which is truly f**ed up. It goes very in line with how we as a society tend to ascribe good qualities and intentions to people just based on appearance, and vice versa. If she was beautiful, it would be, her actions are disgusting, and her beauty does not excuse it at all. That is a more powerful message in my opinion.
They are drawing her intentionally bad though, both in exaggerating the face and making her completely stand out from the rest of the characters. She clashes with the style and its done 100% on purpose.
your totally real for that but it’s just that it was kinda weird when you said you wanted “it” to look hot but either way you have a point but sadly we can’t do anything abt it since we aren’t the ones making the story
Ugly pedos exist bro. Doesn’t mean all ugly people are pedos. And the viallians in media are always pretty, I dont think anyone missed the message that pedos are bad
How old is this author? I live in fear that they would die and we'll never see the end of this story.
This started so fluffy and puppy love cute, wth with that 1-180???????
Freaking warning needs to be more specific, there's "coercive relationships depiction" and then there's "gang up on a poor person that has been nothing but kind to you and hold him down to a table while you drug and rape him". There, I fix your warning. You're welcome.
Ok, this might be a hot take here and controversial but I feel the punishment he got didn't really fit the crime? I just started this but I'm a bit bothered by the general attitude towards him. Other than the cleaner incident, do we see other instances of him harming people? Sure, he's a dick, but all he actually did was shove the dude, after being grabbed first. I understand that he's significantly stronger than the average person so that would really hurt the cleaner guy, but MC was literally the number 1 ranked in the world, routinely risking his life in the dungeons. If we take other hunter stories as references, S-classes were often solely responsible for stopping entire dungeon breaks and now this dude who was humanity's first line of defense is gone and that's a good thing? Regardless of his attitude, unless he did some seriously f*ed up shit (aka. Flame Emperor) on the level of killing civilians or r*****ing people, it is completely stupid to kill him and condemn all the people he would have saved. I honestly don't get the reasoning.
Okay but is that the only reason tho? There could be something else because I just started reading this and I honestly think the punishment is unjust for what he did.
People scared of someone stronger than them. That's basically it.
yea they rly were being jealous, idiotic bastards
Seems we learn more as we go on karma spots that he could have saved, but didn't, and we see the consequences of his choices where it still plays out the way it had in the first timeline when he was a hunter. Pretty sure it's just karma stacked against him that resulted in the punishment, but we can see that he can fix it and take down the evil organization as we go.
This fr ^^, he made choices and since he made them, he was guilty even if he just followed what others said and took the lead lmao
It's a common path when faced with multiple routes. Just because the path is well traveled that you've decided to take doesn't mean there isn't hidden karma points that can be a benefit for you, a harm in your future, or just nothing if you miss it. It's a nice play into the plot to make the story interesting, so I'm looking forward to how the sticks fall for this story.
It happende!
I must say my three main worries when it comes to Iruma's secret are Kalego, Sabro and Alice. One down now, two to go.
Mo Ran has 3 stages in this story:
Hateful mongrel
Stupid dog
Dumb Puppy.
I keep checking every few weeks how we doing but I forget the hateful mongrel state is rather long. Oh, well, I'll be back for the groveling stupid dog arc. I do enjoy that one.
Reading the novel is better or reading manhwa then the novel?
I read the novel first. Manhwa is a bit disappointing because they censure a .lot of the spicy scenes. Also, Chu Wanning's descriptions are much more intimidating in the novel so you feel the distance between him and Mo Ran much more keenly than in the manhwa and understand exactly what kind of figure Chu Wanning was in the eyes of young Mo Ran. In the manhwa, Chu Wannings prescience is much more toned down, because they show him with many different expressions and even in chibi version. The last thing, the novel is told from Mo Ran's point of view, much more closely than it happens in the manhwa, and Mo Ran is a supremely unreliable narrator, so his emotional reactions are very childish and visceral most of the time, and there's a point where I really hated him for being so f*cking stupid and cruel. The novel is raw, and even after a couple of years, I don't re read most of the first part (the one we are going through right now), because as I said, novel Mo Ran abuses Chu Wanning horribly and there are many times in which I honestly don't want them to end up together. The only reason I like this novel is because the author was very aware of the fact that Mo Ran was hateful and makes him suffer just as badly for what he did to Chu Wanning, so I enjoyed immensely watching him grovel and beg for forgiveness and pledge his entire life to his shizun, even if he never loved him back.
Sorry sounds like a lot of spoilers but pls tell me WHY CAN'T I SEE THE NOVEL'S TRANSLATION HOW IS IT NOT COMPLETED -----
Honestly not normally one to enjoy stuff with the content you've explain but if you're honest about the fact the author is very aware of the ML's actions and makes him repent, I may actually give it a read.
I'm not good with spoilers so read at your own risk
SPOILER---
I love a good groveling I must say, and seeing him regret everything he ever did, not only to Shizun but to his uncle and aunt and to Xue Meng as well is very satisfying. Mo Ran's character journey is very much once of repentance and self-punishment, and what I liked particularly is that a lot of trashy characters who come to regret their actions or how they treated their partner, apologize a lot to said partner and try all sorts of redeeming actions, but its usually with the sole objective of winning that partner back after they f*ckd up. Mo Ran is not like that, when he comes to regret his actions and decides to change he does it from a 100% genuine place, because he realizes he let down the people who believed in him (Chu Wanning and his family) and feels like garbage for it. He spends the entire first half of the novel acting like the biggest victim, and oh woe is me, play me the smallest violin on earth, and feeling justified on every action he took in the past. And then when he realizes he was the actual bad guy all along, the actual victimizer he breaks down and its beautiful to see, because he lets go of every single excuse at once. He realizes, oh shit I created my own hell. And when he decides to fix it he goes all out, on everybody, not just with the objective of regaining his partners affection like in other romance stories. He's a better brother to Xue Meng, to the point they become inseparable. He turns into a better friend, a better nephew, a better everything. He fights to become the person Shizun always wanted him to be, just because he doesn't want to let him down again, not because he's expecting anything. Even while having 0 expectation of ever entering a relationship with Chu Wanning that went beyond Master and Student. Even with his past and all the spicy memories, he was 100% committed to being whatever Shizun wanted him to be and be 100% platonic for the rest of his life. He changed because he knew it was the right thing to do, not because it was the way to get his partner back.
Nah I'm glad they censored it, at least you won’t have to look at abuse and rape but I guess you have no problem with that
Ah sorry I didn’t read through your whole comment before commenting before since I thought you were one of the people who justify what MC did. IMO MC didn’t suffer enough, he should have been put through exactly what he did to ML and the died by being burned alive. My hate for that motherfucker runs so deep.
This author has a gift to take the most f*ckd up premises and developments and turn them wholesome. I don't know how they do it, but hat's off!!!!!
Currently reading the novel. How did I sleep on this for so long????????? This is as good as Mo Dao Zu Shi and it made cry three times more. I'm ready for Shizun and his crazy, idiotic puppy GIVE IT TO MEEEEEEEEE
can u link the novel pls?
Where did you read it?
Man i didnt meant to dislike. And BTW can u share the link for me too?
if u guys search w the title, check for the link ccard.co
I don't have a link but you can google 2ha translation and it will appear. I got most of the reading links from a reddit post, so look for it. It should be one of the first options.
Its interesting that they are tackling a fascist mentality so directly here. Its rare to see in manga since Japan has such a checkered past. Its usually glossed over much more than this.