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I am not hating kyungsoo. I AM ALSO NOT HATING CHOWON. Let's all dig deeper into those characters. Those words. Those sentences. What made them that way. So that we'll understand what they really want to convey.

And now he’s paying the price because kyungsoo is ignoring him, he’s hallucinating and overdosed because he’s realizing that he’s really unwell and needs to start taking his pills to get better. Did we also forget that Dojun raped heesoo in that chapter? Why aren’t we going as hard on him too in that case

yes that was also fucked up. and I also hated that. but I'm reminding everyone that kyungsoo wasn't in the wrong for leaving. Kyungsoo by far is the only character that didn't fuck up and i hate that people are hating on him when he just learned that chowon ordered people to rape his friend.

Chap 76 for reference

Oh okay I’ve mostly been seeing Chowon hate so I didn’t know.

It would be equally his fault and those who only cursed him instead of support him and actually make him take his meds or so. In real life we don’t judge mentally ill people equally to sane ones...

I agree a bit. I don't think that Chowon should be simply forgiven because of a mental illness because that's not an excuse for shit behaviur. I think Chowon needs help so that they can grow but I don't think he's earned forgiveness.

wdym it’s not an excuse. A mental illness IS A VALID EXCUSE. Kyungsoo knows better than to leave him just like that. He already accepted him despite seeing the worst of his attitude then leaving him midway.

im sorry but I would leave that person too if I knew that he ordered for one of my friends to be raped

Mental illness does not justify his horrendous behavior. Should Chowon be pitied? Yes, absolutely. Because he needs help. But that does not negate his behavior. And Kyungsoo saw how his friends were treated.

James Holmes was said to have a mental illness that doesn't mean it was okay for him to go on a rampage and murder people. Not that these situations are in any way equal. This one is fictional and fantasy.

I'm just saying objectively, if Chowon wants to be forgiven and move on, he needs to come to terms with what he's done. Mental illness or not he needs a come to jesus moment.

Also, Kyungsoo is not his keeper. He is not responsible for someone else. This is like when people blamed Ariana Grande for Mac Miller's death or Pete Davidson stint in rehab.

I've gone off script and on a tangent.

I hope Chowon finds his happy ending but I also hope he finds peace and closure from the people he hurt.

People who are proven to be mentally ill are being held in a mental facility. People who are proven to be sane and has total control of their mind while doing the crime is jailed in a prison.If I were on the victim's family I won't see any difference of this and would persecute the person who hurt my family member. If I were looking at the scenario as the 3rd party (not involve in both parties), with enough evidences I would probably know the difference. In Chowon's case, I feel pity for him. I won't defend him for his actions. He did bad things. But that is due to love. Stupid yes, but it's not stupid for his POV.He needs to learn and understand things and needs to seek forgiveness to those people whom he hurts. He also needs to forgive those people who hurts him(past & present). More importantly, he needs to love himself first until then, he might be capable of loving others as well.

FINALLY THANK YOU!

I agree with all your points especially the going to jail one. While there is an insanity plea, what he did to Heesoo and the secretary was still his own fuckup. He's the one who hired those hoodlums to harm Heesoo and even offered to double the price when they initially refused. He knew what he was doing that time, whether he has a mental illness or not. He's very lucky that the secretary and Heesoo did not sue him. And yes. Kyungsoo has all the reasons to walk away. He's not his therapist and he has to think about himself first.

I think the last straw for Kyungsoo isn't what he's done in the past, but the fact that he didn't regret even a little bit of his act and is still planning to do it again, also that he's still obsessed with his ex-husband making Kyungsoo feel like he has no meaning. Chowon made it sound like he's just someone to fill his time with until he gets his husband back. Only a Saint would stay after hearing what he said. And what he has seen before isn't the worst of his attitude, what he did to Heesoo and his attitude when he mentioned that is, so no he hasn't accepted his worst attitude yet.

Yes when he was confronted by Kyungsoo, Chowon said those words. BUT didn't he realize that HE WAS WRONG FOR SAYING THOSE to Kyungsoo?He tried to reach out and Kyungsoo is now unreachable(UNDERSTANDABLE even me in that situation!) And if you decipher those Chowon's words it's as if THOSE AREN'T GENUINELY MEANT. He blurted it out due to the heat of the discussion and didn't think before opening his mouth. You know, when you argue with your loveone and said BAD THINGS and later realize I SCREWED UP, I WAS JUST SO MAD AND DIDN'T THINK STRAIGHT BEFORE SAYING THOSE HURTFUL WORDS.I think with them sitting down TALKING IT OUT,SAYING SORRY and TRYING AGAIN maybe....JUST MAYBE they will conquer this bump.

Alright, chill dude.