Yaoifam January 31, 2025 2:03 pm

Ah i love them sm. They break all the stereotypes. Please end it now

Yaoifam January 25, 2025 6:25 pm

I'm so happy for them

Yaoifam January 23, 2025 8:35 am

that's it im rating it 1

Yaoifam January 22, 2025 7:55 am

The art quality got unimpressively lowered

    sun January 22, 2025 8:15 am

    yeah gyeols head shape is so pointy now and his facial features aren't centered

    Dead.me January 22, 2025 10:50 am

    I thought I was the only one felt something was wrong with the art....

    Yaoifam January 22, 2025 11:45 am
    yeah gyeols head shape is so pointy now and his facial features aren't centered sun

    Yea and bottoms hair color suddenly became super blond

    Yaoifam January 22, 2025 11:46 am
    I thought I was the only one felt something was wrong with the art.... Dead.me

    Fr I was Gon get bashed for it

    Suz January 22, 2025 2:40 pm
    Yea and bottoms hair color suddenly became super blond Yaoifam

    I think his hair is returning to its original color to began with his hair was dyed red he then dyed it black and now its slowly fading

    Dead.me January 23, 2025 9:32 am
    Yea and bottoms hair color suddenly became super blond Yaoifam

    There was a flshback about the body childhood and his hair was originally blond and it got dyed, i think it was just coming back to it's original color as the time pass by

Yaoifam January 21, 2025 10:21 pm

Can I just say I love the moonflower gem scans? PLEASE TAKE THIS BACK!

    aes January 22, 2025 3:37 am

    real .. i think i'll let it marinate until a better uploader picks it up

    Puppyboy Agend-er January 22, 2025 6:11 am
    real .. i think i'll let it marinate until a better uploader picks it up aes

    I think mangago scrubbed 27 & 28 from a different site ((a site that I've known to have subpar machine translations)) which is why the quality is so bad this update.

    Juju has been uploading the officials from the main site while MFG was doing their own thing till the officials were announced.

    It does suck tho 'cause I miss the adorable nicknames.

    Yaoifam January 22, 2025 7:40 am
    I think mangago scrubbed 27 & 28 from a different site ((a site that I've known to have subpar machine translations)) which is why the quality is so bad this update.Juju has been uploading the officials fro... Puppyboy Agend-er

    yea missin pups

Yaoifam January 10, 2025 1:28 pm

This is why I always debate that rating a story before it ends is a crime. And I stand by it.

Yaoifam January 8, 2025 7:28 am

This shit is so weird and wholesome lmao

Yaoifam December 18, 2024 5:45 am

I literally had to Google if there were birth pills for guys like author had me questioning my education

Yaoifam November 29, 2024 9:18 pm

WE NEED MORE LIKE THIS FRR!!! IT HAD ME TEARING UP WITH THE ENDOSCOPY PPFT

Yaoifam November 22, 2024 10:35 pm

It is a crime to put stories like this under the 9.0 rating like literally what's wrong with it that it's 8.9?! I be seeing mangas with 3 eps with a toxic af seme with lots of fuckin be rated 9.1 and it's rated so low. Unbelievable. I really freaking miss the times when yaoi wasn't such a hot topic for everyone.

    Fujoshi for Fluff only December 13, 2024 8:18 pm

    ಥ‿ಥ

    snowrin December 22, 2024 10:01 am

    Imho this one's just extremely boring. The characters are just bland and the interactions are depressing.

    Yaoifam December 22, 2024 10:12 am
    Imho this one's just extremely boring. The characters are just bland and the interactions are depressing. snowrin

    It is supposed to be deppressing because the ML himself is suicidal. It's not about it being boring. It's about toxicity getting rated more than actual human emotions.

    snowrin December 22, 2024 1:47 pm
    It is supposed to be deppressing because the ML himself is suicidal. It's not about it being boring. It's about toxicity getting rated more than actual human emotions. Yaoifam

    While I agree that toxicity is highly overrated, the truth is that this manhwa is so bland, it only makes sense for garbage to be more popular and have a higher rating because garbage is at least somewhat entertaining.

    In this story the characters are too bland to make me care about them (despite it being a story thats purely about the characters' emotions) and the dialogue is awkward. This doesn't feel like reading a depressing story about human emotions, the manhwa itself is as empty as irl depression makes life feel like.

    If I wanted to feel a whole bunch of nothingness I could just stare at a wall. This manhwa isn't any more entertaining than staring at a wall is, and it doesn't cause more emotions either.

    If you want a BL story that's depressing because of the MC being suicidal and suffering from PTSD I'd recommend "beyond memories" that one's actually depressing because if how depressed the MC is and NOT because of bland the writing is like in this one...

    Yaoifam December 22, 2024 3:33 pm
    While I agree that toxicity is highly overrated, the truth is that this manhwa is so bland, it only makes sense for garbage to be more popular and have a higher rating because garbage is at least somewhat enter... snowrin

    I have read beyond memories. And I won't deny that It's good but the plot of that manhwa and of this is completely different. "Beyond memories" already has enough episodes for readers to tell what it should be rated. On the other hand, this is not. It is still not established enough for it to be rated 8.9 and comparing PTSD with suicidal intentions is so flawed honestly as it does not even grasp the seriouesness of the comic. It may have been bland but it should not be rated so low when it is still in establishing stage. I highly believe that masterpieces can exist in low ratings but a lot of people end up avoiding to read them seeing the low rates.

    snowrin December 22, 2024 4:14 pm
    I have read beyond memories. And I won't deny that It's good but the plot of that manhwa and of this is completely different. "Beyond memories" already has enough episodes for readers to tell what it should be ... Yaoifam

    BOTH MCs are suicidal and BOTH MCs have PTSD, I'm comparing how their mental health is written not what their symptoms are.

    In beyond memories I can clearly tell that the MC is very very obviously highly suicidal by the way he behaves, how he's drawn, the writing and pacing, etc, even though him being suicidal hasn't been mentioned yet. His PTSD too was shown to us long before it was ever mentioned.

    In this manhwa however? I only know that the MC is suicidal because he constantly manages it every chance he gets and based on the writing the author needs to constantly remind us bc I'd genuinely forget he's suicidal after a few chapters because he's written more like a character who wants to live rather than one that wants to die. Sure not every suicidal person behaves like they're suicidal from the outside but the MC here is written as if all his emotions are written all over his face. (A good example of a depressed character who appears happy on the outside would be Ai Hoshino from oshi no ko for example). Quite frankly it feels to me like him being suicidal is nothing more than a running gag in this manhwa bc him being suicidal is clearly written like a joke rather than like a story about dealing with mental health issues.

    This manhwa is clearly a "tell don't show" type of story and thst type of writing genuinely doesnt deserve anything more than a rating of 7 even if it was entertaining but this fails even at that; it's literally more boring than staring at a blank wall.

    It has 13 chapters already that's more than enough to get an idea of how something is written, it's so boring that I actually didn't even manage to be able to read all the chapters available.

    You talk about gems and masterpieces but this one ain't one and unless they change the writer it won't become one either. It's poorly written boredom wrapped up in gorgeous art.

    Yaoifam December 23, 2024 6:30 am

    No way. It's my opinion but 13 episodes are nowhere enough to judge a manga. Have you read "Hit on by a kinky guy". It's the perfect example of why you should not rate a manga too early. It has 189 episodes now and the way the author totally changed their story writing as well as the character development is better than many A listed mangas rn.
    If you don't find it entertaining that's alright but rating a manga so early on is what bothers me. And if you do it that's on you. Nobody's stopping you. But I believe every good plot manga has potential because the author evolves with the manga.

    Fujoshi for Fluff only December 23, 2024 8:12 am
    BOTH MCs are suicidal and BOTH MCs have PTSD, I'm comparing how their mental health is written not what their symptoms are.In beyond memories I can clearly tell that the MC is very very obviously highly suicida... snowrin

    Please. It's just 13 episodes. Nowhere enough to judge. If this is depressing for you, clearly you haven't read much of the same genre. It is a gem. Can't believe you wrote 4 passages on how you dislike this.

    Fujoshi for Fluff only December 23, 2024 8:12 am
    Please. It's just 13 episodes. Nowhere enough to judge. If this is depressing for you, clearly you haven't read much of the same genre. It is a gem. Can't believe you wrote 4 passages on how you dislike this. Fujoshi for Fluff only

    Never mind, you didn't even finish the whole 13 chapters

    snowrin December 23, 2024 10:15 am
    Please. It's just 13 episodes. Nowhere enough to judge. If this is depressing for you, clearly you haven't read much of the same genre. It is a gem. Can't believe you wrote 4 passages on how you dislike this. Fujoshi for Fluff only

    It's poorly written, not a gem.

    I'm sorry but if someone can't tell whether a story is written in the "tell don't show" type of way or in the "tell don't show" type of way after 13 whole chapters then they're quite frankly either illiterate or extremely dumb.

    Yes stuff like plot, lore, character development, quality of plot twist, cannot be judged after only 13, but things like writing style, how characters are handled, how characters behave & what their core personalities are, pacing, how much comedy there is and the quality of the jokes, how entertaining a piece of fiction is, etc, ALL of these are painfully obvious within 10 chapters or less and it's more than enough to judge a story.

    Fluffy BL is my favourite genre, psychological stories my 2nd favourite and comedy my 3rd favourite... So yeah I read the genre this belongs to all the time and every single other piece of fiction I've ever read that belongs to it is so much better.

    And yeah when you insist that it's a "crime" to rate a "gem like this" below 9 while talking about a story with the writing of an average wattpad story from a 13y/o "I'm not like other girls" fujoshi then yeah, I might go into detail on why it sucks bc it's ridiculous to insist on this being a gem.

    Fujoshi for Fluff only December 23, 2024 10:47 am

    Please stop mentioning how you disliked it after 13 chapters when you denied reading the whole story up till current chapter, saying that you stopped reading it after a few chapters due to boredom. You're contradicting yourself.

    snowrin December 23, 2024 11:36 am
    Please stop mentioning how you disliked it after 13 chapters when you denied reading the whole story up till current chapter, saying that you stopped reading it after a few chapters due to boredom. You're contr... Fujoshi for Fluff only

    Saying 13 chapters are more than enough to know if something is boring is something completely different from saying that you found it boring after 13 chapters.

    The fact that you can't tell the difference explains why you'd think something so poorly written is a masterpiece tho

    snowrin December 23, 2024 11:38 am
    Saying 13 chapters are more than enough to know if something is boring is something completely different from saying that you found it boring after 13 chapters.The fact that you can't tell the difference explai... snowrin

    PS: I also said that it needs max 10 chapters to judge most of the things I criticised

    Fujoshi for Fluff only December 23, 2024 1:22 pm

    Seems like I'm not reaching there. Say what you want girl.

    snowrin December 23, 2024 2:10 pm
    No way. It's my opinion but 13 episodes are nowhere enough to judge a manga. Have you read "Hit on by a kinky guy". It's the perfect example of why you should not rate a manga too early. It has 189 episodes now... Yaoifam

    13 bad chapters are too many bad chapters for it to start getting promising later on imho.

    Like... I'm sorry but unless they're unemployed, retired or live on disability support/money then no adult will have enough free time to read most of the good stories they come across. So suffering through 20 episodes of an anime or 50 chapters of a manga because that's how long it takes for it to become enjoyable is nonsensical to me, because a) there's still no guarantee of it being your cup of tea after "it starts getting good", b) you could've read and watched so many other amazing animes and mangas in that time that you now missed out on bc you don't have enough free time to read/watch them too and c) there's more mangas where the writing deteriorates over time than mangas that go from bad to hidden gem

    snowrin December 23, 2024 2:11 pm
    Seems like I'm not reaching there. Say what you want girl. Fujoshi for Fluff only

    I mean, you're not even properly reading my replies lol

    Fujoshi for Fluff only December 23, 2024 2:17 pm
    I mean, you're not even properly reading my replies lol snowrin

    Same to you. I am saying something and you're saying another. You didn't understand my point either. Let it end there.we won't reach middle point. And For me the story isn't boring at all. So I'll enjoy it.

    Yaoifam December 23, 2024 4:07 pm
    Same to you. I am saying something and you're saying another. You didn't understand my point either. Let it end there.we won't reach middle point. And For me the story isn't boring at all. So I'll enjoy it. Fujoshi for Fluff only

    Same to you man. I never forced anyone to enjoy it lol. My problem was rating mangas nowadays solely based on entertainment purposes because then a lot of people end up missing out mangas that do actually get better. People can have their own opinion but to go to such degree to deny a common flaw in the manga reading industry nowadays where people rate shit comics so high just because they are "entertaining". I mean 7? for such a good plot which does not involve any toxicity which is hard to find nowadays in mangas where authors are all going for the much profitable concept of " red flags. That alone is a very braveworthy thing for the author to do. And mangas like this gets ignored all in the name of "boring". It's okay if you do not like it in just 10 episodes which is embarrasing that you claim you can judge any storys on that, then that's on you but not right for you to rate it low. To be able to rate any kind of fiction you have to read the whole thing, which is basic knowledge that that commentor is lacking

    Fujoshi for Fluff only December 23, 2024 4:14 pm
    Same to you man. I never forced anyone to enjoy it lol. My problem was rating mangas nowadays solely based on entertainment purposes because then a lot of people end up missing out mangas that do actually get b... Yaoifam

    I was talking to the other person. Wrongly commented instead of replying

    Yaoifam December 23, 2024 5:21 pm
    I was talking to the other person. Wrongly commented instead of replying Fujoshi for Fluff only

    I was agreeing with you lol. Sorry if you misunderstood.

    Fujoshi for Fluff only December 23, 2024 6:00 pm
    I was agreeing with you lol. Sorry if you misunderstood. Yaoifam

    Mannn. I missed the last sentence it really seemed like a reply to the other person. Sorry

    snowrin December 23, 2024 7:24 pm
    Same to you man. I never forced anyone to enjoy it lol. My problem was rating mangas nowadays solely based on entertainment purposes because then a lot of people end up missing out mangas that do actually get b... Yaoifam

    If you struggle to find a BL story without toxicity that feels more like a you problem tbh, it's extremely easy for me to find fluffy BLs to read and except for the webtoon "boyfriends" every single other fluffy BL I've come across is a million times better than this one. As a matter of fact; non-toxic BLs because more and more common and they're significantly more common now than they used to be 10 years ago and are still on the rise. (Which makes me extremely happy to see)

    A good plot/premise is worthless if the characters all have the personality of a plastic cup.

    Look at Yuri on ice for example, it's plot is the most "bland" a sports anime plot could be as the entire plot is literally just "this one irl sports event but make it anime", it has 0 toxicity and was an absolute phenomena and is to date one of the most beloved queer animes, if not the most beloved queer anime ever.

    Why? Because the characters there actually have this this thing called a personality. Because the characters feel alive. Because the characters are very complex and can show, feel and convey a vast variety of emotions.

    Something that you don't see in "the hero wants to die" at all.

    Making a story with an interesting premise that has 0 toxicity is the bare minimum, not proof of a masterpiece. If I can't expect an author to be able to write fictional characters with PERSONALITIES then what's the point of having a human write it at all? If all that's needed for you to find a story a masterpiece is for it to have an interesting sounding premise and 0 toxicity then it might as well be written by AI.

    The only BLs that I've come across that started out meh or bad but became huge gems later on were stories such as "can't think straight" which started out as toxic yaoi but became extremely wholesome fluff after some character development. But those all had in common that the characters had plenty of personality from the get go and just improved thanks to character development, I've never seen a BL start out with bland 1 dimensional characters and make them turn into dynamic characters full of personality later on, if anything I usually experience the opposite where characters tend to turn more and more flat as the story goes on, so excuse me for giving up on BLs with bland characters within 10 chapters after almost 15 YEARS of giving them the benefit of the doubt.

    After 15 years of observing that this type of writing doesn't improve even after 100 chapters (or until the end if it finishes before reaching 100 chapters) then yeah no I don't see why I should assume each new one that pops up could finally be the first one where it improves.

    Since you struggle on finding non-toxic BLs here's some I'd actually recommend and which I personally would rate 10/10:
    Go for it Nakamura, wolf in the house, xxx buddy (perfect buddy), docchi mo docchi, megumi & tsugumi, Yuri on ice, honto yajuu (and pretty much every manga I've read from it's mangaka, kotetsuko Yamamoto), higasa-chan, aoi no naku, don't mess with the puppy, whose baby is it (main couple at least, some side couples are shit and ruin it, also there's one toxic side couple that got introduced after the main plot ended), surge looking for you, my little merman (by gearous), etc.

    I'd make a list of fluffy non-toxic manga on mangago if it wasn't for the fact that it's significantly easier to find them in physical bookstores than on manga reading sites... Which is a much better place to fight for fluffy BLs to begin with bc, you know, if you want more of them made then why not vote with your wallet instead of getting mad at pirates rating something lower on a piracy site than you would?

    snowrin December 23, 2024 7:32 pm
    Same to you. I am saying something and you're saying another. You didn't understand my point either. Let it end there.we won't reach middle point. And For me the story isn't boring at all. So I'll enjoy it. Fujoshi for Fluff only

    I'm happy for you if you enjoy it, it's always awesome to find a new story to enjoy and I hope that you'll have a good time with this manhwa!! (๑•ㅂ•)و✧

    Yaoifam December 24, 2024 4:23 am
    If you struggle to find a BL story without toxicity that feels more like a you problem tbh, it's extremely easy for me to find fluffy BLs to read and except for the webtoon "boyfriends" every single other fluff... snowrin

    pls you do not have to recommend me anything. I've already read all of those that you mentioned and many more. I've read enough mangas till now to know how the situation is going now lol. And again you are incable of understanding my comment so I'll not embarrass you further.

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