56leon September 23, 2024 8:13 am

Realistic communication issues between a sub who has been in control since the proposal and was less ready for subspace than he thought and a domme who wasn't mentally prepared for it from the get-go and stubbornly tried to move forward with something they were both unprepared for. Yes, this is ALSO a facet of learning kink culture, especially without an experienced lead. Even for experienced people (of which they are NOT- Richard admits to being a virgin himself in this chapter), it's not always sunshine and roses.

    No.Face September 24, 2024 3:51 am

    It also shouldn't ever be rape, but here we are.

    Valid points, yes, but still not an excuse for rape. It's unfortunate considering I had high hopes for the character.

    56leon September 24, 2024 5:00 am
    It also shouldn't ever be rape, but here we are. Valid points, yes, but still not an excuse for rape. It's unfortunate considering I had high hopes for the character. No.Face

    You do realize the scene isn't even over, right? He stopped at the end once he snapped back; there's plenty of time for this to turn into self-reflection and better communication instead of one-sidedly deciding a victim and a perpetrator before anybody has time to talk or repent.

    CAN this be considered rape? Absolutely, but again, we don't genuinely know what the outcome of this is going to be until the end of the scene.

    No.Face September 25, 2024 2:21 am
    You do realize the scene isn't even over, right? He stopped at the end once he snapped back; there's plenty of time for this to turn into self-reflection and better communication instead of one-sidedly deciding... 56leon

    As someone who was raped, I don't think my rapist having some self reflection right after the act would change what he did to me. Decidedly not actually, it wouldn't heal my body, wouldn'tremove the feelingof him inside me, wouldn'tturn back time and change the interaction.

    Snapping out of it and realizing you fucked up doesn't mean you didn't rape someone. Repenting doesn't take away that you were a predator and you had a victim. No amount of retribution takes away the pain you caused, the trauma you inflicted, or the act you chose to do. We even see Richard lose control when he realizes she's in pain, how is that cool with a little self reflection?

    Your victim can forgive you. You can grow and improve. You could be named a fucking Saint for all I care and it doesn't erase what you did. It doesn't erase what you were and are. A rapist. This is fiction but shit like this happens and in the end so many victims are told to forgive, he didn't mean it, she wasn't trying to hurt you, you said yes at first. If this isn't treated properly in the story it's just another rape apologist love story.

    56leon September 25, 2024 4:20 am
    As someone who was raped, I don't think my rapist having some self reflection right after the act would change what he did to me. Decidedly not actually, it wouldn't heal my body, wouldn'tremove the feelingof h... No.Face

    With all due respect, I think you're projecting way too hard on a psychological BDSM manhwa of all things. Nobody has any right to dictate what happened to you, but likewise you aren't the absolute authority on every piece of noncon or kink literature ever. Your lived experiences aren't Courtney's and Richard's, and that doesn't even get into the fact that BDSM and kink culture is inherently dangerous (in the sense that it poses a higher general risk than vanilla) and needs to be treated with an understanding that people can - and often do - get hurt in ways that you don't normally see in vanilla, and that those types of situations between partners who knowingly enter kinky scenarios together need to be handled with delicate gravitas, not with the force of a pointed finger and a rape accusation. Something that it seems like the author is setting up in the next chapter, if you were willing to read the previous chapter all the way through.

    I don't think I can say anything else because you've pretty much firmly made up your mind, and you and multiple other people in this comment section have been liberally throwing around rape apologist accusations and putting words in people's mouths, so I'm just going to leave it at that. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

56leon September 11, 2024 8:05 am

Man, I'm absolutely a sucker for these cathartic tragedy romance manga. If anybody has any recs for more like this or The Wolf Lord's Lady, hmu. A good cry is always appreciated.

56leon September 7, 2024 7:25 pm

lmao when I was complaining over a year ago that the author was baiting with yeodan and somebody bitched at me that it "wasn't baiting" like. yeah it is. be real please.

I might pick this back up later because I don't DISLIKE the actual ML but it honestly just hurts to think about rn

56leon September 6, 2024 6:49 am

Kind of funny that people (myself included!) thought the prodigy actor was telling the truth when he was selling his sob story to the twins. Should've known he was twisting his own agenda and Aqua (who called out "Ruby's revenge" as finished rather than "our revenge") noticed, or at least suspected.

    Yjk x Kdj September 6, 2024 7:50 am

    You are right, it felt too good to be true

56leon July 30, 2024 1:44 am

Honestly, tragic romances like this are extremely cathartic. You know their gonna get together eventually because that's how the romance genre works, but damn if it isn't gonna hurt good all the way there. I feel so sorry for both Leisel and Denka; they remind me of the main couple from Wolf Lord's Lady in that one has to punish the other for something she didn't do, and then has to live with that regret (or, in Denka's case, die with it).

56leon July 30, 2024 12:58 am

ganbatte hagi

56leon July 23, 2024 5:19 pm

Translation wasn't awful tbh, it just looks like panels were uploaded out of order so you have to jump around a lot to follow what's going on. General gist should be easy enough to figure out though.

56leon July 4, 2024 10:45 pm

It's very refreshing to have a character who's slowly but surely getting rid of her weird parasocial relationship with her love interest :') I feel bad for Tamon right now, but I know Utage will get there eventually

56leon July 4, 2024 10:19 pm

HAGI GANBARRE it's so exciting to see one of the three airheads finally getting somewhere

56leon July 4, 2024 10:02 pm

people are always so over the top upset about the most unserious cliched romance fantasies lmao

    Ohmarwin July 18, 2024 6:21 am

    Hahaha YES! And take everything so serious. It's just fantasy

    halfbreedjxmo August 2, 2024 12:04 pm

    literally what I be thinking while reading the comments T^T

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