Okay so I actually like the story and I saw the raws and they’re a very cute and hot couple. The ending is cute too. But I’m still gonna say it : it’s giving grooming
Where did you see the raw you have a link?
Raws*
This comment section is better than Netflix lmaooooo I’m literally living for all this drama
I can’t believe I will be defending this damn twink cause I used to hate him so damn much but like, I truly don’t understand why yall are focusing your anger at the twink right now. Sure I understand at the beginning but Mokyeon is so much worse than him now. The twink is literally just a gold digger but he’s actually not a mean person or anything (sure he’s an annoying liar but he’s not violent nor a rapist contrary to a certain someone), he’s not even competitive or menacing in any way. But Mokyeon is so damn insane and selfish. He’s such a bad friend and the way he treats and manipulates Nanjo is so much worse than how the twink treats him. Why are yall just talking about the twink when he’s just trying to enjoy his birthday that is being ruined by his psychotic fake ass friend that secretly hates him cause he’s obsessed with his boyfriend that he’s forcing into having sex with. He’s a bad friend and a bad partner and a bad person, but he acts like a poor victim even though he’s just facing the consequences of his own actions. Like, c’mon guys, you need to focus on the right things. The twink is not the problem here. He was awful at first but now, he barely appears anymore, he’s not even a real menace tbf, it’s just Mokyeon projecting his insecurities and acting like a fool cause he can’t seems to managed to steal his best friend’s boyfriend (by being violent and selfish). The hate on the twink is so forced now. Yall don’t really care about the fact that he’s awful cause if yall actually did care about it, then yall would talk about Mokyeon’s insane behaviors instead.
Someone said « it’s giving hating the girl in an mlm ship » and it’s so damn accurate
you got the wrong person bro, its mookhyang you are referring to
Dammit
I can't get why people are mad at Nanjo too especially on Tiktok lmao. We all know Nanjo likes the twink a lot and everything is one sided for the Ml and he never once vocalized his true feelings and just acted selfishly and wallowing in his own sadness.
Anyways I still like the story and Toxic shitz like these are my guilty pleasure, just hope the other readers doesn't glaze the ML so much cause he's not better than Nanjo and the twink.
I see ya point I do. But here the thing the twink and the seme are both super no good people. The business man is basically the only “innocent” one. From what I can tell the twink and send have this toxic relationship from the get go. The seme just actually caught feelings this time with the threesome and now has a hard time regulating his emotions. He could’ve probably just told his twink friend and it wouldn’t have been a problem but ya know stories and bad communication.
The business guy did not want to do the threesome. The twink forced than on him.
The business man misinterpreted as twink being bullied or whatever. Even tho he’s like nah he likes it even twink was like I like this. And now he’s being “forced” tk have sex. Nah he willingly having sex.
THIS. Nanjo/Business man is somehow the only likeable chara here from a normal viewpoint.
Not gonna lie thou I lowkey like crazy seme like the Ml here.
Sure Nanjo is stupid and naive but it’s literally the reason why everyone is taking advantage of him. So yeah he’s still a victim. It’s funny how Mokyeon is the worse out of the 3 characters and yet no one seem to hate him. I really hope he will suffer much more.
I also like the story tbf (even though I can’t forget chapter 20), and I’m really really intrigued about Nanjo’s point of view. I truly think he doesn’t deserve any of them.
And actually, I hope Nanjo is also secretly manipulating everyone. Like, I would feel less bad about this whole situation if everyone was awful lmao, and it’d be an awesome plot twist.
I honestly agree that the hate against the Twink is getting way overdone. I also agree with the fact that neither the twink nor the MC are good people (birds of a feather and all that). But MC is obviously away worse than any of the characters in this story yet. The only reason I am reading it is because it's an interesting dynamic.
I do agree with everything you say. I’m not saying he’s a good person. I also can’t stand him and I truly think Nanjo doesn’t deserve neither of them. I’m just saying that I don’t’ get why people are focusing on only him right now when Mokyeon is so much worse than him (and the dude is literally just having his bday right now). Also, Nanjo is « willingly having sex » cause he was coerced. And yet, he was still raped even though he was “willing”.
Exactlyyyyyyyyyy !!! And I’m also super curious about Nanjo’s point of view.
Someone actually said it. The twink was never the problem he simply has loose morals and a gold digger and adds nothing to the plot except for creating jealousy. And tbh, our mokhyeon or whatever is so fucking delusional just like me that when he hurts I hurt and I just wanted to see him cry but dude I can't even stand his sad I feel like comforting our M but okay guys atleast one sane person said it.
“ The twink was never the problem he simply has loose morals and a gold digger and adds nothing to the plot except for creating jealousy” <— THIS !!! So damn fucking accurate.
I think Mokyeon is very stupid and I simply can’t feel bad for him lmaoooo. Actually I do want to see him cry more tbh.
I too wanna see him cry but you know the last panel i don't think I can handle it. I lob that red flag delusional fucker. Oh my choice in men scares me
I have to disagree. Yes the only likeable person and the true victim is our cutie Nanjo. You see, what you said was comparing black to black. I don’t think the twink hate is at all too much but I believe we need to speak up about the mc too, that’s it. Because these are HORRIBLE people with outright bad actions. I don’t think you should just dismiss it by saying “oh but he’s worse” for the other when they’re both equally bad and we shall talk about it. The difference between them is that the twink is matured and Blondie is not. Both of them were having fun. But well Blondie fell in love. I don’t think we should at all disregard the twink’s gold digging, he knows full well his impact on nanjo. While our mc here is just acting on his whims and doing whatever he wants, but his bad is equal to his good because as initially he was an asshole once he truly started to like him ( despite those thoughts) he is now more and more respectful. His words and thought process might not be because HE IS AN OVERALL BAD PERSON but he was able to at least be more demure. Well the twink is well good bad too but he KNOWS what he’s doing and he’s extremely professional when it comes to that to. He’s manipulative and two faced and I genuinely believe that is as horrible as having violent thoughts. They’re both equally harming if put to action.
You can’t say they’re equally bad when one is a rapist and not the other. I’m won’t even debate on it.
I mean sorry for not using the superlative degree for not describing Mokhyeon. But it means bad only. You just came for here to express opinion and tbh what u said and what we said is the same. Disagree to agree. Okay whatever floats your boat.
Rapist…?
The title clearly says “defending the twink” when NONE deserves defence. Or are you here looking for an argument? I’m sorry but I’m not interested
Nah man not looking for argument.
(づ￣ ³￣)づ
Yes he’s a rapist. You can reread it and see for yourself
Well, I’m not actually defending him that much tbh, I’m just saying we should focus more on the other one cause the other one is much worse.
I’m sorry but rapist..? Do you know the weight of the word to just throw it around like that. He had NOT acted on his whims, it could be anger issues and what not, the story hasn’t even properly progressed no lore nothing just a rough mention, not even properly taboo and he’s shown to keep his complete cool. Let’s not even go into that “oh but he thought of it” bullshit because clearly there are so so many layers to it than JUST that. Sit it the fuck out first.
Ok that is something you’d do and I’m completely fine w it but I think I’d rather judge both equally, to me it gives more depth
I’m not talking about the last chapter tho. He did raped Nanjo previously. I am more than aware of the word that I’m using and it’s the accurate one.
Where? That was a consensual contract.
It's hard to call it consensual when one party clearly coerced the other - it's a dub-con situation at best.
First of all, the contract was coercive. Coercion is rape but let’s say it was really consensual, there was still many times in which, during the intercourses Nanjo clearly said « stop » and « no » multiple times and Mokyeon never stopped. Even when Nanjo literally fainted and lost consciousness he kept going until the end. There’s no debate whether it was rape or not. It’s one thing to enjoy problematic content cause you differentiate fiction and reality but you seem to not even realize that what you’re reading IS rape. How would you even put things into perspective and differentiate fiction and reality when you can’t even be aware of what’s problematic in the fiction. As I previously said, I won’t debate on the rape part. He IS rapist. And if you can’t even fathom that, then maybe you’re too young to be reading this and it’s another reason why I will not debate with you.
I apologise
I have skimmed through the chapters where sex was involved and didn’t take it seriously, rather I skimmed through the initial chapters a lot
The only part I read was the recent one which also I could’ve skipped if not for the plot playing a small role
Although the contract was coercive I think it’s completely fair and I don’t understand how it’s unfair at all because that is exactly how most and I mean most contracts are made actually irl where the one who makes the contract targets both the pros and cons of the other person and makes it less risky for the one who’s putting forward the contract and more risky for the one accepting it. They ACCEPTED it. If it were not for the rape I would’ve not seen it as problematic at all.
I was honestly ok with the contract tbh. It’s really the rape part that bothers me. I think it’s really different if it’s fiction or reality. IRL, coercing someone to make a contract to have sex with, is problematic. Coercing is persuading an UNWILLING person to do something by using force or in this case threats. So if we’re talking about sex, coercion would definitely be rape. Even if the person eventually accepts, it can’t possibly be real consent cause there’s literally a threat behind. Mokyeon threatened to keep on hurting/having sex with the twink if Nanjo didn’t accept his offer and Nanjo accepted it cause he felt like he had no other choices. It is objectively problematic. It’s not any kind of contract, it’s about having sex with someone. So one must admit that the consent is (at least) dubious and the whole thing is problematic, even if they both agreed to it.
But yeah, in fiction, I don’t have the same moral compass so yeah, the contract didn’t bother me that much but the actual rape during the sex was where I draw the line. And he did rape him. And yet I’m still reading and enjoying the story so… yeah.
I understand your pov
I do have to say I saw it differently
Although Nanjo was threatened we as readers know it’s not how the case is
Blondie said he’d hurt the twink but we know he usually likes it rough maybe the implication was twisted
It’s not coerce but mostly manipulation
Also he was having quite fun ( I did not like )
Moreover it wasn’t all that serious either but I did skim through that particular chapter from what I remember it was not as heavy as you’ve mentioned
But I believe it was how I interpreted and because I did skim through it maybe I’ll go and read again and maybe my views will change
But I never did like the blonde all that much because I believe he was very very immature now that you’ve mentioned this I feel like I don’t like him at all
And I really am not one who would read rape and enjoy it and separate reality from fiction so I’m not going to enjoy reading this but I really really like the story telling so I’ll sit through and wait to see if this is worth being an exception
I agree , now that i think about it again, sunhwa is bad for being a gold digger and two faced to nanjo , but that's all of his sin. Meanwhile mokyeon currently is piling up his sin by adding more each chapter , if we list both of their fault mokyeon definitely has more fault than sunhwa
Sunhwa list of fault :
1. Lying to nanjo about his entire personality (two faced)
2. Having sex with other people behind nanjo back
3. Gold digging , but this one is actually kinda debatable because its not like sunhwa is asking for the gifts directly , its nanjo who bought and give the gifts himself without sunhwa asking (?)
Mokyeon list of fault :
1. Mokyeon coerced nanjo to have sex with him by blackmailing nanjo if he dont want to mokyeon will keep bothering sunhwa
2. Continue from point 1 , mokyeon supported sunhwa lie at first by saying he is indeed bothering and abusing sunhwa to manipulate nanjo into having sex with him
3. Mokyeon lied to sunhwa by having sex with sunhwa boyfriend behind sunhwa back
4. and mokyeon being shameless actually have the audacity to show sign of hate or jealousy to sunhwa even almost killed sunhwa by choking sunhwa with a pillow
5. On recent chapter only solidified that mokyeon clearly hate sunhwa now , where in fact without sunhwa he will never meet with nanjo in the first place
Nanjo also isn't free of fault, at this point i even doubt if nanjo truly loves sunhwa , i don't know what is his objective tbh :
1. Nanjo actually going along with mokyeon demand behind sunhwa back , like if nanjo is really the green flag partner , he should've talked about mokyeon deal with sunhwa first and then they should have deal with it together if nanjo truly loves sunhwa , but going along with mokyeon demand felt a bit off to me , like the whole i can give you my ass but don't touch my lover kind of thing felt like a lame excuse to justify you are cheating from your current partner
2. Nanjo lying to sunhwa saying he was sick when he is actually working , why would he lie ? Did he actually developed feeling for mokyeon ? If that's true then he is also being a jerk to sunhwa , because technically sunhwa is still his official boyfriend no ?
So i think all of them is not free from fault , and that is actually what makes the story interesting for me , i am curious how this drama will turn out (づ￣ ³￣)づ
Yall are so annoying lmaooo. Not only you’re fighting against one another to know who’s top and who’s bottom like it’s the goddamn WAR, but you also don’t even want them to be switch ??? I swear, yall don’t want peace and don’t have an open mind
If he likes pain that much, then why doesn’t he bottoms ? Not that I mind him being a top but you know… just asking
It only hurt if your doing it wrong, which if we're fair, most characters in yaoi are doing it wrong. No prep and a bit of spit is ridiculous.
How can I give this a like and a vote and a standing ovation
That’s exactly why I asked that Cause he just has to put it without prep and it would immediately fulfill his needs
Everyone hate the twink because he’s using Nanjo but love the blond guy even though he’s also using him lmao (in an even more malicious way). It’s the hypocrisy for me.
One is using him for his money and lying about his personality and the other is lying because he likes him and dont want to be apart from him
The Twink clearly uses anyone who has anything available at his disposal. Also, Nanjo is very well aware of what his eyeballs, ears, mouth, and asshole receives from Mokyeon unlike with his obliviousness concerning the Twink. So idk.. maybe Nanjo is a lowkey masochist because I really can't comprehend any man accepting such a proposition without an underlying reason. If Nanjo was really opposed to the entire situation, his only correct answer would've been a punch to Mokyeon's face. It's the absurdity for me.
He’s taking advantage of his naivety and kindness not because he’s in love but because he’s literally obsessed and want to control his absolute everything while disregarding how Nanjo can feel about any of it cause he only thinks about himself and what Nanjo makes him feel. That’s not love honey. That’s just insanity and selfishness. It’s really not any better.
If Nanjo wasn’t so naive, (too) kind and stupid, literally no one would take advantage of it to manipulate him. Please, hear yourself, that’s just victim blaming.
When will something actually happen ? I feel like we’re still on the prologue right now (don’t mind me, I’m just frustrated).
dawg we only 5 chapters in of course nothing has happened yet
Got too used to boombayah on the first page lmao
Girl, 5 chapters is enough for anything to happen
Id wait 20 chapters tbfh, I hate rushed sex scenes
I do want to see them getting freaky, but I’m not only talking about sex something almost happened when he went inside his house (he was about to beat him up) but then, nothing again . I want more drama or more tension, anything The girl (me) is starving right now
I think that scene just shows what type of people they are. The boxer is straightforward, provocative, yet he’s mindful of the people in the apartment, while the politician guy(?) is calculated, thinks logically, but he only thinks of himself what benefits him. He tells him off like “are you trying to blackmail me?” just shows what type of people they are.
Yeah I know but that’s why I feel like we’re still at the prologue. I feel like we could have had this scene sooner. It’s the pace of the story, I (personally) think it’s a bit slow
I think it’s because BL’s tend to dive into the “good stuff” the first 5 chapters, which honestly is pretty rushed. I think that the first 10 chapters should be the exposition, then after once we hit 15-20 chapters, that’s like the perfect moment to drop something. Idk maybe I’m just really into slow burns, but the first 5 chapters should neverrr be sex… idk that’s just me tho
I’m gonna need them to fuck right in front of me and right fucking now or I’m gonna go insane
you freaky ho
Yes I am…
HOW DOES PEOPLE KNOW WHO TOP AND WHO BOTTOM ?
It seems the artist said so on Twitter?
Fujo intuition
I love that they actually talked about how their relationship was in the past. So many yaoi begin with an awful start and the couple really brush it off cause they eventually get super lovey dovey and it’s as if it never happened. But here, even though they’re super cute and lovely, they still talk about the awful behaviors from the past. Like, they’re not in denial and still take it into account even when they’re in love now.