it is the first time a yaoi manga made me laugh out loud. That scene where he was reading a manga outloud and they got soft was just hilarious.
what was that sister thing? Did he really fall in love with his sister? If thats the case was it really necessary.
he wasn't really in love with her, more like he's gaslighting himself that he's in love with her just because she looks like the person he truly has feelings for.
sounds like denial (￣ε(#￣)Σ
it’s been awhile since i last reread this but i’m pretty sure even without his memories Fuji felt attracted to Kotou and that weirded him out a little so when he finally met his twin sister he thought ‘Oh that’s why I feel attracted to him..it’s because i liked his sister before and they look the same” and gaslighted himself into thinking he actually liked her instead of Kotou lol
sir i wasn't talking about that sister i was talking about fuji's sister like in the first episode
i’ve always wondered this as well
It’s never clarified but it seemed more like an over attached sibling than romantic to me. Also I don’t think this is an official TL so take the wording with a grain of salt. However, some manga aren’t afraid to go all in so who knows.
^^--This.
does everyone really want griffith to die? I never wanted that and wanted them to be on good term in the end like they used to. Btw how come everyone thinks that guts can kill a god?
Bro I don’t even know
Probably sacrificing his vessel which is his son so griffith can’t have a physical presence in the mortal realm I suppose
But I always thought they should forget about and sail off further away and start over again (or try)
dude i read tons of things and this is the only story where i am uncertain about what i want in the end. I don't want griffith to die, i don't want him to be happy either. I want guts to be happy, but i don't want him to be happy without griffith. I don't think i will ever be satisfied with whatever the ending will be.
I mean... I want Griffith to die because I think what he did was horrible. Do I think Guts can kill him, simple as that? No, he is indeed a God Hand. Do I want them to be companions as they were back in the day? Also, no, never. I think Griffith missed his shot to be an equal to anyone because he grew used to ambition, and couldn't give it up. Whatever forces moving the universe put these two in the places they are, and I keep observing the parallels between what seems to be Skullknights' and Void's story. Maybe they were destined to be mortal enemies forever, Guts to be possessed by the Berserker armor and keep struggling. But... on the other hand, I feel Griffith, unlike Void, finding his way to institute Falconia, merging realms by possessing the baby will lead to his downfall, by making him too Griffith, less Femto. Maybe the immortal entity Femto will keep existing, but Griffith, as he was bitchslapped by our boy Rickert, will perish, and therefore give a chance for Guts to live a brief happy life with the people he found now. Although I actually bet that they'll both die in the end.
ngl I might get bullied for this but I don't HATE Griffith..don't get me wrong I don't like him either and I don't support what he did/ will do but I don't hate him like the whole fandom does. he's an interesting character and I'm pretty sure the idea of his character is not to hate him so extremely, its supposed to be more complicated than that.. anyways idek what's gonna happen at this point..I just want guts to be happy :(
i agree i don't hate him i always thought he went through hell and when he started cherising guts more than his dreams he snapped when guts left him. Even when he came back to griffith he wanted to leave with casca again and then eclipse started. I never hated griffith and never will.
He is a very compelling antagonist.
With berserk and the idea of causality, he was definitely struggling between where his ambition was taking him and the happiness he could’ve got with Guts, Casca and the rest of the band. While he gave into his “destiny”, Guts is still struggling. We don’t even know where Guts’s destiny is supposed to take him perhaps yes towards the same path as Skull Knight. But I think the duality between the two is that maybe Guys will succeed against causality unlike Griffith. How that is going to play out in the plot, I have NO idea since he is holding Casca captive, we know next to nothing about their son apart that he’s Griffith’s vessel and now the Kushans will wage a war that I don’t think they can win
I would bully you, but I understand (⌒▽⌒)
Griffith is a very well written character, and I respect what Miura did by making him an unforgettable antagonist. It's just like Johann from Monster, or Shinji Ikari from Eva. They're not likeable characters, but they are well written, and therefore, we want to see what they'll do next.
(You don't need to read further, it's just a rant, I have no friends who let me talk about Berserk, so I got excited lol)
My thing with Griffith is quite the opposite that dark seer pointed below. He struggled making the Band of the Hawk and creating loyalty from so many people, but I never felt like he tried to be happy together with them. He was thrown for a loop when Guts left (a wish caused by Griffith's own words), but his misstep was him to own. He f'ed up with Charlotte, and the thing that gets me is that it all felt more like an issue of control, rather than "I don't know what I'm gonna do without my bestie". And while I see he was desperate due to being tortured useless, and how he hated the idea of being a burden to Guts and Caska, hence, sacrificing everything to be able to get his dream again, he betrayed the shit out of everyone who helped him get there in first place. He was not only willing to sacrifice all the people with whom he wouldn't have done shit without, he picked on Caska in front of Guts to prove he had his control back, his control of Caska and Guts, by hatred then. And now he has a new band of badass apostles, which obey him, and he's living his dream. Personally, the egotistical desperation to make his dream come true that drove Griffith is what makes him so unlikeable to me. Although I see why his complexity attracts so many people. I just don't fully trust these people ╮(￣▽￣)╭ (jk)
Griffith should be tortured and suffer for eternity.
I don’t think they can be on good terms. Looking at everything he has done to his own friends and more, it’s reasonable to want to see him dead
yea, people who just hate him bc he's "evil: don't get the point muira is trying to put across, this isn't shonen its seinen for a reason. everything is more complicated than a simple good and bad character. but ig its hard for people to understand that
What I think most people forget is that (and Im skipping alot of other important details before hand) is that when the 4 gods (kinda forgot their names..) came to ask him to join he wasn't saying yes to them. its a detail that most people miss but he didn't want it to happen but then the godhand used a manipulation tactic which made him make that choice by showing him the vision and telling him this is all the lives you took own up to it or whatever. the thing is, this feeling of "all these people died for you you must finish your dream" is something he felt before but it was buried so deep but the godhand found a way to bring it out of him. also since he was at such a low point in his life (being tortured) and even after he was saved alot of his boundaries were constantly being crossed making him question his whole morality and everything he lived by. he really felt like shit (hence why he was planning on running away with the carriage)
anyways Idk if what I said made sense but yea
AAAHH I HAVE SO MUCH TO SAY BUT I"LL STOP T-T ALSO DONT GET ME WRONG IM NOT DEFENDING HIS ACTIONS ( everything after he said yes to the godhand..)
ALSO PLS TRYST ME ToT IM JUST BAD AT HATING CHARACTERS IDK WHY I ALWAYS JUST FIND REASONS NOT TO HATE THEM.. (I might dislike them a little but not HATE)
replying twice cause I just wanted to make one thing clear is that the only action that I wanna defend is him saying yes the godhand for the sacrifice, everything else like r--- casca is outrageous and he did it completely out of his own will with no one telling things or being manipulated. (its so late rn and im so sleepy im completely babbaling rn i hope my shit makes sense-)
yea, that wouldn't make sense and it would be bad writing. me personally I don't want that to happen because none of them would want that..probably griffith will die..all I know is that muira said the ending will be happy.
ew nga
sry
you should be
I totally agree with you. I feel like people like griffith just to be different or something
its fine i can see why some ppl would like griffith regardless
uke likes him of course but he was in this relationship for his book when will seme find out about this i wonder. Such a classic manga tho he founds out gets mad and then uke says i did at first but i like you now blah blah. Anyway i am just here for uke's hair
it started promising the plot and all was so interesting but what is the point right now that everyone likes her. Isn't this the opposite of what the story was trying to tell at the beginning.There isn't any understandable reason for everyone to like her this much. I thought this was going to be like "miss not so sidekick" but got disappointed instead
what do you mean? you like how Mc is liked by her friends? imagine being friends with someone for more than a years and faced challenge with them. then in the end they are okay if you just one day you are suddenly gone without a word and not being able to remember you. will that make sense if they don't find you when they started and slowly remembering you? I think the main focus of this is how she suddenly got into a novel and trying to be with her friends now. (that's what i think)
no what i am not talking about friendship.
I'm so glad I'm not the only person feeling this way! It made sense that Dani being forgotten would result in them trying to make their friendship even stronger, but somehow it has made not 1 but 4 people fall in love with her, instead of the intended Yeoryeong. Which I get it, butterfly effect, but also, exactly like you said. What's the point of the plot if now 4 guys in the friend group freaking likes her?? And all because she was kind to them??
i was okay with it until yeodan, the dating was something but he started liking her?? and i think the one call dani mom likes her too. fan servising at this point the story has no meaning right now
oh God, I would never like it if they make Woo Ju in likes her too.
2 of 4 already confessed their feelings, add besties older brother, and a random guy who suddenly pop out of nowhere. thats a lot.
it started promising the plot and all was so interesting but what is the point right now that everyone likes her. Isn't this the opposite of what the story was trying to tell at the beginning.There isn't any understandable reason for everyone to like her this much. I thought this was going to be like "miss not so sidekick" but got disappointed instead
wrong manga lmao
lmao bro I was about to get defensive
I was trying to understand what you're talking about XD
BTC DISAPOINTED RID YOUR DJMBASS EXPECT SMUT OR WHAT SJIT?? MF YOU LOOK LIKE A LOCKED IN NERDS FACE WHEN THE CLIMAX FROM THE 17TH JACK OFF
Sorry I Didn't read the replies:3 no harm meant^^!!
#equal
bro im still laughing i spent 10 minutes writing this and saw the title lololol
LMFAO I'M DEADDDD
BRO I WQS ABT TO THROW HANDS
when he came back 10 years he directly told the truth. Taehyuk too the thing about the car incident he just directly said the thing on his mind. They trust each other and trying not to keep any secrets. Misscommunication tropes are my least and this is going well. Even tho he is not talking about that thing on the bathroom, i understand his reasoning for not telling so not gettin angry at that.