
I was still in chapter 12 but I gonna fucking drop this shit this is totally a God damn rape and the ml is blackmailing the mc like wtf u have allot of sex partners but why do u have to do that
supporting or liking rape in fiction is like ur okay with rape in real life

I understand that you are ironic with this, but defending rape in fiction it's still a bad thing. Just because it's fiction (the excuse everyone uses to defend rape/manipulation/pedo/etc in manga) that doesn't mean you can throw your moral values out the window. No, of course people didn't start raping people just because they saw it in a webtoon, but it's still disturbing that rape became more and more normalized/mainstream in manga/webtoons, manga that are read by actual kids (11-14yo)

...Did I ask about your personal life somewhere? What, so you're some important person, with a high status in society? I don't really understand what you're getting at and I truly don't care. Your mentality was the only thing I was concerned about.
"You want to make laws to force me to know and use gender pronouns? I don't have to obey unjust laws"-- your answer to a question on this site, clearly it is hard to respect people's pronouns, of course. Let's deny someone's whole identity because it's "hard to remember" and "unjust" :).

Do you realize how you sound to me? Making a law that compels people to violate their own right to freedom of speech is wrong. It has nothing to do with transgenderism. Let me put it another way, making laws that make it a criminal act to refuse to call someone a name they want to be called .... is a threat to freedom of speech and expression. I'm defending the rights of artists and writers. It's hard for me to understand how anyone could mis learning their rights in school or some other point in their lives.
It's nice to call someone the name they want to be called, but come on. Criminal not to?
I'll go so far to say that it's wrong to expect anyone on earth to remember your pronoun when it's already all but impossible to remember everyone's name. come on.

I think you're the one that's not on track with what our "argument" was about from the start. Anyway, you're not defending rape in real life, but on this site you seem obsessed with making excuses for nonconsensual acts, because you're respondig to everyone that makes a comment about them being upset over the manipulation/assault in this story, AND others. most of your comments are only about that. You could easily ignore these comments and let people have their own opinion about something that's is beyond their principles as human beings, but you simply don't.
Authors can write whatever they want in their stories, rape included, but then they also should expect backlash and be ready for it.
For your second comment, you're not making any sense. No one asked for any law that would take people's freedom of speech. What you don't get it that respecting someone's identity is about human morals and values and not something that should be achieved by some law. That's where your comment becomes close to transphobic. You don't need a law just to respect someone's pronouns, is it really that hard to comprehend this?

Never in my life have I heard of a trans person asking for a "law" that would force people to respect their pronouns or else it's a criminal act. Again, it's just human decency.
And if it's so hard to remember someone's pronouns (truly challenging), would it be ok if everyone started misgendering you? brcause they simply can't remember ;/

What about people's religion? What about someone's title like doctor? Is their a law that says I have to call them doctor?
Also, this issue is private. What you have or have not between your legs is not of interest to me. Why would anyone want to be called by a pronoun directly connected to their private parts? jesus private.

How is this related to anything I said. This is getting nowhere and it looks like we're wasting time. My original comment was about you making excuses for rape and attacking everyone that doesn't share the same opinions as yours.
Let people be upset over thing they don't agree with, you don't have to comments on everyone's comment that it's "only fictions". Let people be.
I didn't know about this law, as I am not American, thanks for informing me.
Sorry to OP for flooding their comment section.

You read these works and now you're going make an assault on the artistry of the talented, skilled, sensitive people who create them? a "backlash" against manga and manhwa authors. What kind of horrible lowdown b(tch of an animal are you. I'm starting to hate you. Get off this site if that's your stinking bigoted attitude.
jesus

By your logic we should dumb down everything in case some spoiled brat whose parents are too irresponsible to set their computers so they can't here won't see the shlt you are so worried about them seeing. Why I would need to explain this to anyone just infuriates me. We only recently started getting to see adult content and now you want to throw us all the way back to the 50's. By your logic, this section of mangago won't exist. In case you haven't noticed, that's exactly where you group of f*ckin idiots are now taking us. It was the struggle of over a hundred years till we could freely look at adult content, it will only take a few years to undo it. I hate you clueless people

I don't really wanna argue with u but no one said that authors should stop drawing or writing u kept changing the topic which makes it confusing
Rape is rape
Fiction or not that is still rape and it won't change the fact that is rape u think its fine because it's fiction no fiction or not that is not fine at all do u even know the feeling in that situation that u cant do anything because if u told someone they will be discussed at u and u cant do any shits at all

They/them seriously offends me and other grammarians.
no one said anything about public displays of genitals
There's plenty wrong with the avalanche of negative comments aimed at an artist and their art. It gets back to the artist, and it creates a negative atmosphere among all the artists when so many people are yelling their heads off about one thing, rape for instance. The collective negativity is extremely detrimental. If you like reading manhwa and manga, you and your friends need to seriously take stock of what you're doing to the people who draw and write these.... unless you want to obliterate all manga and manhwa because that's where you're heading us all. This site won't have yaoi, and it will die everywhere with a speed that will rip your hearts out. Keep up the negative barrage here and on social media and see what happens. You think you'll get rid of rape and non consent and abuse. You're wrong. It's hard for normal people to understand the mentality of artists, but if you hamper their creativity, they will withdraw rather than change to suit your tastes. They can't change. They're artists. They don't do it for profit. They do what suits them. Your demands are never going to suit artists. They want to do their own ideas, not yours. Your complaints are the worst thing you can do artists if you if you want to keep reading these works. It won't be just rape that is obliterated. Everything will go. You cannot put a ceiling on what these artists can express. freedom to express their own art is most important. Don't believe me? Then just sit there and keep bitching and see what happens. I know what I'm talking about.

Sorry but are u implying that everyone who replies here frequently under most of the comments doesnt have a life??! I see a lot of same people here, LITERALLY same people commenting LITERALLY everywhere. SHould i ask them if they have a life!? or to get one cz they dont have any?? Lol they can comment where ever they want, you dont have a right to ask such a dumb question to anyone ! THAT'S RUDE!

A twisted dark themed or messed up plots are supposed to have such elements like these! Thats why tags are made. U want warm fluffy refreshing theme, go to that genre, u want messed up stuff choose that tag, keeping in mind that they can have a good or a bad ending or unexpected ending! Thats why i think people under 18 are not supposed to be reading rape mangas n yet thats exactly what everyone from 9 age onwards is doing here! Just like someone mentioned above she had been reading so many rape mangas since she was young , believing it was right to do rape!! Its not authors fault. Its her fault to read them knowingly n she continued to read them. So the point is, its their fault to read something when they are not emotionally stable to understand something like this or differentiate right from wrong! They should not try to throw their guilt on author when they are the ones who r responsible for their actions!

You are mingling fiction n reality here. Its fine if u wana be sympathetic towards a certain character, but there is a reason why it is called fiction. If u wana see the real life victims or how the rape criminals end up , there is a lot more data u can find on news and youtube cz thats what reality is! everyone here knows how they feel and their sufferings , ive seen a lot of this n more in rl, so why would i even want to see rl rape endings in mangas too which r fiction meant for adult population..well i dont..if you r worried about kids ,tell them to go study rather than wasting their time here! And plz stop staying stuff like liking rape in fiction is like liking rape in real life! Dont make me laugh ! R u a kid or what.. u dont like it its fine, but who r u to decide that those who dont like rape are the only ones who r NORMAL !? LOL. Stop judging those who like it in fiction or who r not bothered by it, and stop blaming the author for putting the rape element. And also you replied even without realizing what the other party was saying, dont jump to your own conclusions. Think before u speak. No offense!

I can't believe that I'm responding to you again... but that's what you are trying to do?? to normalize it because you keep making excuses for rape in manga/webtoons all the time. That's all your account is about. and you're changing your words everytime you respond to this thread.
NO ONE talked about attacking the author/artists but people have the freedom to say their opinions on these topics, what can't you understand from this? You truly make absolutely no sense. Just stop

Look, I'm gonna respond to this for the last time. I'm not for attacking authors/artists at all, they can write about anything they want. BUT, when they write about a controversial topic/trope, they have to be ready for criticism, for people to have both positive and negative opinions.
Readers don't have the right to demand thing from an artist, as long as they read these things for free and they don't pay the artist directly to write a story for them strictly.
If they expect people to only have positive reactions for their artwork, then that's their fault. There will always be people that have different opinions about different topics. Artist should be able to take criticism. (of course I'm not talking about readers that attack the artist directly because the story didn't go in the direction they wanted).
I have the right to say my opinion on this, in a polite way, as you do. But you don't have the right to attack other people for having different opinions as yours. If I don't agree with someone's opinion, I'm trying to understand where they come from and why they think like that, and if I can't change their mind/they can't
change mine, then that's that, we stop there.
Like you said, people have the freedom to think/read/believe in what they want. As long as you're not taking my rights as a human being with your beliefs, then there's no need for us to interact, talking in a general way. I hope you can understand what I'm trying to say, cause otherwise I don't know how else to explain this.

???? are you ok? I've read their explanation, and I'm literally responding here regarding it. I see where they're coming from and what they are trying to say, but my opinion didn't change. Their opinion is as valide as mine. I said what I had to say regarding this subject, hoping they understand where I am coming from too. what do YOU expect me to do more than this?

Lol with that pretty face of Jimin i was expecting u to say something like this " i wont change my opinion but since u asked a favour ill check out your explanation". But i had no idea it was that hard to say. And whats with the term Are U Ok???? Is that how u talk to people? Guess i was wrong for expecting something more from an Army when im one as well.

you are just not hearing me. artists will not have any of the reactions you're expecting. Even politely stated, anymore than what's already been said again and again and again, thrown at them from every direction, no matter how nice and polite, or constructive or well intended as nice criticism, it's too much already. you keep talking about how they ought to accept criticism, so I hope you accept the consequences of what you and the others are doing. you are not going to like it. It's not about me at all. I don't care what you think of me or feel I'm doing wrong. I don't care. I'm delivering a message. that's all
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