Ok so... nope. I'm very surprised on all the people saying how realistic this was and how much they loved it. I've never seen a more fake and toxic set of characters. One had some very clear mental issues/toxicity and the other just got upset at the abuse but took it anyway. I would never wish this sort of relationship on my siblings or friends. Like he said "is love supposed to feel this ugly and hurt this much?" No. That's what an abusive relationship feels like. But you keep going back because you don't know how to live without it. I desperately wish they both could have some therapy cuz wow. No one will ever be happy with the blond, not even himself. I pity them both.
Feel free to destroy me now
It's under drama tag,, a lot of drama manga, soap operas, Koran dramas, and even webtoons have people acting like this. Dramas are usually characters acting as in exaggerations of themselves.
For me knowing it's a drama gave me a pass to the way characters act and the action taken,, it's ment to be dramatic. I personally hate other forms of work like, Love is an Illusion where everyone says it "relationship goals".
I think people say it's like real life because the straight guy doesn't just get right in bed with his gay friend. There's a struggle. It's not happily ever after. It's happily for now. It's not a healthy relationship, but to be honest, mentally unhealthy people aren't capable of healthy relationships. It's two wounded, insecure men floundering around indecisively, and THAT is kinda realistic.
lol u could call it the most realistic portray of absolute toxicity
I totally agree with you.
I totally agree with the toxicity that the characters are protraying. BUT this was published NINE, 9, YEARS ago. Sexuality was very black-and-white back then, so these were common problems "straight" men faced back then when questioning their sexuality. If it was today, he could have just said "Oh, I'm bisexual." PROBLEM SOLVED. But that's the beauty of the story, each story has different characters in different places in time.
Yeah...I guess the pairing of the two MCs looks like a ticking time bomb, but I think the author portrays to its reader that love is no flowery walk in the park but a thorny road that each love birds should conquer in order to maintain their relationship or else it will be doomed to fail.
Wow finally I can agree with a comment in this manga like fr I don't find any realistic shit here all I see is toxicity lmao
I tried to get into this, I really did. It's a great story but I simply cant forgive her for not just telling everyone who she is. The memories are there. She has the proof. I just cant man.
The manga failed to deeply explore Nina’s identity crisis. It’s not so much that she did not dare to tell others who she was. The presence or absence of proof did not matter. What mattered was whether she decide to live as Nina or as the girl who was already dead. Telling others that she possesses the memories of a dead person essentially entails an identity change for her, at least in the eyes of others. She wouldn’t be able to live her life simply as Nina anymore.
In the end, she decided that she was Nina, that her lover must love her for who she now is, and her past parents and brother must get over her death, for she now had a new family she treasured too. Telling others that she was someone else in the past had no use but serve to complicate the situation.
In other words, does memory determine who a person is? If you possess Someone else’s memory, are you that person? If you lose all of your memories, are you still you? Nina essentially concluded that the answer to the first question was no. She is just a girl named Nina who somehow possesses the memories of a dead person.
While I do agree with what you said, I personally see it as memories do determine who a person is. If you wake up right where you left off but in a different body, you're still you. Regardless of how circumstances may change. I would then continue to argue that yes, if you lose your memories you are a different person starting from that day forward. I certainly have to say though this all could have been avoided if like you said, the author explored her identity crisis. Then you wouldn't be left wondering.
I enjoyed reading this explanation
Also I'm glad they got her to live as Niina rather than a girl with past life memories because otherwise it would be a really boring cliche
Also I think her love noticed it, but he also still loved her as Niina
I really loved this story but when he called him a simple minded slut I almost flew into a rage. I can only assume translation issues cuz wow
I literally flew into a rage, stopped reading it and headed straight to the comments to see if anyone else was pissed about that.
Children between first cousins have almost identical statistics to children from randomly selected parents. So the only thing ruining this manga for y'all are the stereotypes in your own society. Lots of places have no problem with 1st cousins being together. Pretty sure it's legal to marry your cousin worldwide
The problem isn’t one generation. That’s usually fine (though you might want to get genetic counseling to make sure there aren’t nasty recessives)
The problem is repeated cousin marriages over successive generations.
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Oh sorry I couldnt see the last part. I mean even if that is so, these are two men lmao. So again, the only problem is negative societal views based on literally nothing. Nothing wrong with them getting together.
Omg youre right tho.
The only reason incest I seen as bad is because the offsprings would come out.... you know, but if there's no offspring...then technically there should be no problems.
That glass in the last panel is a BREATH AWAY FROM FALLING OFF THE COUNTER AHHHHHHHHH!
That got my anxiety to a whole different level (╯°Д °)╯╧╧
I dont mind hair, but authors do very weird things when they decide to put hair on a character. If there had been just a little bit on the calves and in the pubic/butt area, I would have been fine with it and could have implied that those were hairy areas on this character. Instead, this author puts a shit ton of hair in those areas and then none anywhere else. Thighs, arms, lower stomach. Which just really weirds me out but hey I think she managed to pull it off despite finding that detail very distracting
Mate you find a man with that much hair on his calves and then NONE on his thighs and I'll agree. But it dont work that way
I looked back on it and I guess there were some scenes with hair on the thighs but just as many where the thighs were bare. Also no arm hair? Lower stomach hair? It just weirds me out fam. Unnatural
I mean if were talking about some genetic abnormality sure. But I'm pretty sure the author was just trying to make a regular dude. That's like saying the man was born with 1 arm and then you expect me not to point it out? Sure it could happen, but it's unlikely enough to make it weird.
Well tbh I only can only grow hair on certain spots on my calves, and none at all on my thighs... I'm certainly an anomaly, but just to tell you that people like that do exist.
But yeah, authors often just don't understand how being hairy works I guess.
(Btw we don't know, but maybe the explanation is that he simply waxes specific parts of his body lmao)
But see that makes sense to me. None on the thighs, and some on the calves even if it is in patches. But 100% on the calves and 0% on the thighs is a stark contrast and incredibly obvious (imo) so I noticed it immediately and it was all I could see. And you're right that could be an explanation, but again, that's weird enough that you would think the author would mention it. Either way, like I said before I do think she managed to pull off the story regardless. :)
You're wrong. It's just like what blood bonk said. I'm a girl and I got long ass hairs on my calves, just like his, also some under my thighs, but no obvious hair ON my ass and 6 inches down. Just because it doesn't happen to you doesn't mean it's not gonna happen to someone else, there are 7.5 billion people on earth, get out of your box.
That boy also had some hair near his knee on the thighs, but no obvious ones on the upper thighs.
No hair on your arms either? And let's once again remind ourselves that you're a girl. It's not about happening to me as I've stated before. It's about an author trying to make a regular character (not one with weird hair genes) a normal dude, and not knowing how to go about it. You can think shes got the human body down all you like, but I see it as an abnormality (because that's what it is, not regular) and most people point out abnormalities. They're not normal. It's an interesting detail and has nothing to do with the hair on my body. It just looks odd and that's a fact for the majority of people. I'll betcha as her art gets better, the hair will be more evenly distributed.
I got hairs under my armpit, I never said I didn't, the characters also have hair under their armpit.. But anyway
No I meant on the arm. Arm hair on your arms, but like you said anyway... lmao
Happy ending or naw? I'm not in the mood to be upset rn
No happy ending.
Thanks is for letting me know
Thanks
Now I'm not saying I'd die for Sakura, but that's exactly what I'm saying.