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The funniest thing about these comments asking for yaoi and saying that they don't like straight sex, is that most are straight women. Cringe.

1. Seungho ruffled Nakyum's hair in an affectionate gesture but also checked his fever as he did so. That's why he was like I won't do anything you're still feverish.

Its cuuuteeee. Also shows he regrets that Nakyum got as sick as he did because sg overdid it and now he is treating NK with care.

2. Raw spoilers / When Nakyum noticed Seunghos tense fist during the convo with his brother and his pained nightmare face, Nakyum allowed himself to be held (in order to comfort sg) and lied fo the Inhun about knowing anything about Seungho

This shows that what Nakyum feels towards Seungho is also affection and care and my guess is that these feelings have grown in him as they've continued to have sex. A lot is communicated in those moments and as SeungHo basically provides validation to Nakyum's sexuality and sensuality and need for touch, Nakyum may be feeling more tender feelings towards him.

Before Seungho, all Nakyum knew was to be ashamed of that part of himself and guilty that he couldn't push it away. It tormented him to the point of alcoholism. So I think what's happening for Nakyum is big.

3. Inhun keeps showing himself to be an insect. When NK was sick he didn't give a shit and Nakyum is beginning to notice, especially since he now has a strong foil to Inhuns behavior. Inhun has him on a yoyo. He does something mean or self serving and follows it up with a sweet touch or word. Nakyum, who was previously starved for male attention, may have easily fallen for that before, but now Seungho gives him uninterrupted attention and *wants* him more and more and even beyond common sense and reason.

4. When Seungho goes to buy Nakyum clothes, I think that's a huge sign of what Seungho intends to do with Nakyum's status. Nakyum is right not to think of himself as a servant in the household. He is more like the mistress and soon to be wife ;) sorry but I love it

Overall, historical context considered, Seungho is very good to Nakyum and Nakyum's character is developing in a way such that he also understands that.

I think their kisses and touches are a lot less forced / unwanted on Nakyum's end. Seung ho is mr steal ya man lmfao

5. Why is he so tortured when he can't touch Nakyum? Does Nakyum provide some sort of respite for him?

Can someone please help me how to upload mangas in this site?

Late night reading: I suddenly felt an urge to go through the Joseon period caste system. I know nothing about Korea's history but according to Wikipedia (see below), this was the Joseon caste system. Can you tell me who belongs where in the story? Like, I assume that Seungho and his fam are Yangban, but then what about the learned sir, Jiwha & all of Seungho's harem, and our cute painter?
Tiny spoiler but Na-Kyum argues in chapter 38 that he's not a slave. Given that he's an orphan who was raised by courtisans, why isn't he a slave? And is he a Sangmin or a Cheonmin?

Joseon caste system:

Class HangulHanja Meaning
Yangban 양반 班 aristocrats
Jung-in 중인 中人 middle people
Sangmin 상민 常民 commoners
Cheonmin 천민 賤民 vulgar commoners
• Baekjeong 백정白丁 untouchables
• Nobi 노비 奴婢 slaves or serfs

Hold on..hear me out. Nakyum clearly didn't want to have sex with Yoon bc he loves Inhun, yeah...BUT he clearly told Yoon 'I will do all that you have asked' to divert Yoon's bloodlust off Inhun..Nakyum knew that meant sex and that he'd have to paint it. It is so much more tragic than a simple fictional yaoi rape. This author is really pushing the envelope with that yaoi trope. When Nakyum lost his virginity to Yoon, he gave his consent--Yoon was wrong to take advantage of Nakyum being so drunk he thought he was doing the deed with Inhun, again that is so much more complicated than rape or consensual sex. The only unarguably rape moments imho were the chapter before the bath scene--Yoon stopped when he saw Baek was not getting hard and the forced bj Nakyum performed to keep Yoon from killing Inhun for the evulz. This story needs a psychological tag and I need an aspirin and a fluffy manga break.

I may get many downvotes if I say this but here it goes. The shippers of this couple do not own any explanation to anyone. Every single person who choses to read this do it at their own risk of discomfort. Imagine start reading something and then expecting others to stop shipping or romancing a couple because you don't like them or feel uncomfortable?
I don't know how many times Yaoi readers in general have to say that just because one engages and enjoys stories and ships like this doesn't mean they condone rape or abuse.
There are many readers who don't ship the MCs but I haven't read one single poster here who is capable of express their opinion without going ten steps further and laying shame to others than do.
How many times the same thing has to be said over and over and even more in a
Yaoi genre? We all have different tastes and this is what makes these kind of moralistic shaming in PON even worse. I have seen people here that apparently enjoy other stories/ships that also have their grain of abuse, yaoi or shounen ai . For whatever reason, they seemed capable to enjoy other 'more friendly' abuse plot, Yet, they become the banner abusive relationship educators in this particular story -- that, by the way, is not even one of the most classic rape plots.
If you enjoy the story for the art or because you want to see Seungho dead or whatever, okay, stay and enjoy as you wish but why the need to put down people who ship the characters? If they want to ship Seungho and Nakyum and fangirl over it and you get sick with it when you are in a story that this is more than expected and common, the problem is not the shippers, it's you --- who can't express your point without making others feel below you and you think others should adjust to make you comfortable to be here.
Nobody is required to stop liking or shipping something just for you to feel better.
If people want to see romance, let them. Its not your problem. If you really think people who ship these two are immorals or stupid, be even better, refrain from making people feel trash, just say a prayer silently thanking the Gods for your higher intellect and morals. Imagine judging people you know nothing about, never saw or talked based on the fact that they ship a Seungho x Nakyum Yaoi story. Life is bigger than this and so it's our morality.
It would be perfect if stories like these were actually locked by a password, like a forbidden room only for 'immoral' perverts. Like an orgy. You don't enter an orgy just to stay there and keep preaching to everyone how nasty they are. I mean, yes, you could be a voyeur and pass silent judgment but that is exactly what you are incapable of doing it. It's not enough that you engaged in a situation that would make you feel uncomfortable, you also feel uncomfortable that others are enjoying and then you NEED to shame them for making you feel uncomfortable when it was your choice to engage in a situation that triggers you.
If you can't post your opinion without shaming others and telling them you have higher MORALS (really? the moral line is shipping rape plot yaoi?) then your argument is already flawed.
Yes, everyone has the right to opinion but somewhat I find it unnecessarily wrong and impolite to go to Shotacon for instance, start a story with a plot I despise and then proceed to hang around chapter after chapter shaming the readers who are shipping the couple and asking them to explain themselves. I can't relate to readers who enjoy Shotacon but I can relate to the idea of respecting people's taste in fiction and knowing my business is not confront them with my particular view, especially if the premise of the story is something I know in advance that I don't like it.
Stop shaming the shippers. Let them see romance. Let them root for the couple. It will not affect your life and if it does affect your enjoyment of the story... again, that is on you to adjust and decide it it's worthy it. If you feel uncomfortable with others shipping something, it's your place to excuse yourself from the situation instead of ask people to adjust to your level of comfort.
Shippers, you don't need to feel shame. Nobody pays your bills, knows your life and what you have been through.

Things we know so far:


-He's the firstborn son of the Yoon familly.

-Since his grandfather has passed away, no one of his family has took a government post.

-His family's power and influence is declining.

-He seems to have some trouble sleeping.

-He's been deeply hurt in the past that now he's very unstable and has violent mood swings.

-His whole family left him alone and took the servants.

-Mr. Kim is the only who knows his past.

-Has an extreme obsession with sex.

-Used to need help to get it up (wonder why)

-He's well known in the region as a sodomite.

-He's highly educated but lacks emotional intelligence that he can't differentiate jealousy from anger.

-Very intelligent and observant.

-Currently, developing feelings/obsession for Nakyum.




Questions/Speculations

-Why Seungho and his father didn't follow the steps of his grandfather? I read that in those times nobles would prepare themselves to aspire a high post in the government. Seugnho has more opportunities than Inhun, he's more prepared and most importantly, he has a name of power and influence. So why hasn't he tried to get one? Also, why hasn't he married yet? People married quite young in those times.

-Seungho looks like in his mid-twenties to me and Mr. Kim has worked for him since a decade, so probably he met the master when he was an teenager. So I think something happen in his adolescence that transformed him from a regular noble to a depraved and violent one.

-How old was Seungho when his family left him alone? It seems that it has passed some years since that happened, so if they left him when was young, no wonder why he turned so unstable. Sometimes when I'm reading this, he reminds me of child throwing tantrums or an angsty teen. I think he developed his sex's obsession after being abandoned, maybe his trying to fill a void with that. After all, in the Joseon era, the family played a huge role.


-Finally, did Mr. Kim chose to stay with Seugnho or it was his obligation? Does the master trust him enough that he hasn't change of servant?

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Man, I really love this series, I can't wait to learn more things about the lord's past. I think the servant is going to play a huge part on the future.



P.D. English isn't my native language, so forgive me if I have some errors.

I know it's impossible for many readers but I think to fully enjoy this story we need to make a mental effort to transport into that time period and see all the characters are men of their time.
It's a mistake to apply modern morality standard to them, because they do what men of their time and age were supposed to do.
This is valid for almost everything we denounce as wrong today but were widely accept as the norm in the past ( think about how men treated women, about slavery, about public hangings, etc, etc).
Seungho is a rich Lord, a master. Li Hiun is not as powerful but it has an intermediary status in between Seungho and NaKyum.
I'm not saying that people couldn't still be reasonable split between honorable or evil but overall, the world was much more cruel and status hierarchy ingrained.
Seungho is not a good person but I disagree to qualify him as psychopath or 'Sangwoo'. He is a Lord, used to get everything and everyone. Killing a low born clearly is not a matter of law at that time, even more raping.
To say that Seungho is a psychopath is just flat the character in my opinion. Do we see him raping or forcing sex before NaKyum? No. So, if we analyze his sexual kinks, he doesn't seem to be exactly the type that enjoys inflicting pain or raping just for the sake of it. Does he kills anyone who upsets him? Yes but just like the rape with NaKyum, this seems to be more like a sense of entitlement that the psychopath need to torture or pain.
What I am saying is that, maybe it's impossible to stop using modern standard to judge Seungho ( and InHun and Nakyum) characters but if we make the effort, we may see a more interesting story. Seungho is visibly jealous of the teacher and he has for a while desired Nakyum ( remember he saying that he would never embrace a low born). He also clearly despises the teacher so his anger is even worse because NaKyum idolizes the other man.
I think Seungho started feeling lust as the promiscuous guy that he is and he also may have only intended to fluster Nakyum with his advances but things changed when Nakyum took him for the teacher and the sex happened.
Notice that out of all things sexual Seungho could have recollected, it wasn't the hot or forced things he remembered, it was the tender moment of confession from Nakyum when he said he was happy in his arms ( when Nakyum thought it was Inhun). This is what he envies the most about the teacher right now, the affection and desire Nakyum feels for the other guy. He, of course, doesn't compute this to be romantic love nor even jealousy but all he knows right now is to have by force. He is irritated because he just doesn't know rejection and when it happens, it was from someone he would never expect to care about it.