Translator is so sweet! The memes, the sources! I read the novel allready, but here we go to get the heartbreak again (￣ε(#￣)Σ
Calling the hell manager! I think killing people is the only thing Heil can do rn, burning things down was the other guys skill
I love it. For reference, I did something similar once, saying "cause i don't like you" with a smile, when asked why I won't let him copy homework. It really burns a confident person when an tiny, innocent looking girl says that. Can recommend
"Rosenkarotten" xDDD aren't they getting creative nowadays, with the german/euro sounding names
Gah, this is so inaccurate, it's just repeating a myth and some satire made by men how painful those things are... in truth it's basically an exoskeleton, giving extra support for those personal space makers(skirts), and were made individually and perfectly accustomed to their owner! And they here ended with a korean looking belt... so very surprising, i wish the author did the research.
Ugh, I know. Also, they weren’t made for women to look skinner, but as back support for proper posture. I hate this type of misinformation.
I... Understand what you are saying, though I think you are missing two things. In my opinion though. The first would be even if it is made to fit perfectly, putting it on wrong, like too tight, will effect you wrongly. Also, even if your jeans are a perfect fit, have you never felt the urge to loosen it when eating loads? My second argument is that this manga is not labeled as historic, but rather fantasy. The author is not obliged to be historical correct.
But I do share the opinion it would be in this authors favor if he stuck for such details more to the reality. ╮(￣▽￣)╭ But that is just me~
Agree
by that logic we should all unbutton our jeans before we eat, or u know, buy actual jeans that fit just right... just like how an actual corset that was worn. Corsets have a great back supporting function that patients with back problems have specialised corset like braces for treatment. Even when tight lacing was a trend, a resounding majority, both noble and common women alike did not tightlace.
You could see it like that indeed, I am looking for the gray area instead of it being good or bad (⌒▽⌒)
I wrote it this way because I think it's bad to take someone else's culture out out of context to make the MC seem like a savior and progress bringer, the proof of that is how korean looking those before stylized dresses are now. The main topic here is the knowledge of tea and cultures of the MC, stereotyping and inaccuracies feel out of place. Also those women would be in a lot of pain because they took their spine support off.
I'm just adding some of my opinion it's true that it helps to make your body posture straighter and was know to be apart of the undergarments for women but I think it is more well known to make women have smaller waist. Like any timeline they have their own beauty standards, in the past people actually believed that smaller waist is more beautiful and stuff. So yea with that belief they will wear corset. Overall I think in history it's because of that image of beauty many were harm to tighten it to the limit and cause many side effects like suffocation and starve. As history pass they then produce undergarments like bra to cover up and also support the top and undershirts cuz clothing now and then are different ( i think like in the past people wear many layers so it's not too visible, but now we don't wear multiple layers anymore so undergarments are normalized).
It is well known as making you slimmer, but that’s now and not back then. Back then it was for posture and they were tailor made to fit properly. Men made it seem like it was for appearance and tried to destroy the corset industry, so women would not have so much power and control.
Just read some of the other comments they have a lot about the history of corsets with links to back them.
I'm wondering where YOU did your research. Corsets weren't meant to help correct the posture or make a dress for better, they were a fashion design to sell a new fashion made by a man. They damn things broke ribs, compressed lungs, and moved the organs inside of women that wore them! There is documented proof everywhere, including written books on how wide a woman's s waist should be and x-rays showing the enormous and often times deadly damage done to women who wore corsets. The author didn't put anything in this that wasn't correct when it comes to corsets. If anything they were far too light about the damage done to the female body when it comes to the original death traps called corsets.
I got my initial research from the Try Guys wear a corset video, but I did decide to look more into it after your comment and found some information on the Vogue site https://www.vogue.co.uk/article/history-of-the-corset. No, they weren’t as bad as you wrote and I’m wondering what proof you have that they caused so much damage, because I read that the only time it caused damage was in the extremes. Normal corsets didn’t cause the damage you claim they did.
Corsets have been around since the Vikings, but they have always been more of a fashion statement on how a female should look. And yes they were dangerous, look up the x-rays done on women that wore them, extreme and not extreme. Don't rely on a fashion magazine to give you accurate information, look around, go to the library. Corsets were used on girls as young as 10 years old to start "shaping" them properly, and they did shift organs, compress lungs and break ribs. Even those that didn't tighten them to extremes had issues physically. They had miscarriages or were unable to get pregnant, and bowel obstructions. I will agree that If a woman was brave enough to not follow fashion at the most she had back support, and would sport some bruises, but the truth is that corsets have been down played over the years for the sake of keeping them in fashion. There is documented proof of the damage old-fashioned corsets caused, and not just in the USA or Great Britain, but all over the world. Don't ever rely on one source for your information, go to many, and make sure those sources are from reliable information. Peer reviewed journals and books. Too many people rely on the internet to tell them the truth, and sadly it doesn't provide it. So all I have to say is go to a library.
You lost the credibility at "x-rays of women that wore them", we talk about historical corsets not modern day ones. The shaping was achieved in padding. Get some reliable data and not some USA based, that it's known for male manipulation an being barely two centuries old. There is more history than at the start of some colonialism
@NightRoseFox Vogue is a highly acclaimed fashion brand and I would assume they put some effort in the history of corsets and had multiple valid sources for their intel. You on the other hand still have not given any sources besides go look at a library, which is basically when I said to go look at some of the other comments that had referenced articles about corset history and how they were not as bad as they were made to seem. You keep going on about all these deformities and issues from corsets, but once again where is your information coming from? Because most of those deformities and issues were with the extreme and fetishes, not normal wear.
Why not just watch actual historians talk about corsets. They were not bad at all
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNwTqanp0Aw
youtube.com/watch?v=rExJskBZcW0
"Let's run clockwise first" and then dodge or shield bosses ult, yes, thats all there is to Boss battles, made me snicker in aknowledgment