Oh I really like this one. Girls are still not tolerable for me. They're not THAT annoying but still not someone I'd like.
Fr I thought it was hilarious how the mc ignored the video editing girl but yeah their not annoying atm since the mc is chill B)
She's probably his subordinate's wife who's close to him or something.
I just wanna say , "Your shitty experiences are not an excuse to be a shitty person. Your shitty luck in relationship is not an excuse to hurt your next partner who's good to you wholeheartedly. Everyone has their own shit but those who let that define them are the real shitty person." Poor Kousuke. Saku doesn't deserve him. And those who are saying that it's not easy to overcome trauma and not to blame the victim seems to have forgotten that Kousuke is a victim too. He has his own trauma of being dumped in that way. Just because someone from your family was murdered doesn't give you a license to murder someone else's family who are completely unrelated. I don't pity Saku at all, in fact I hate toxic people who hurt others for their own convenience, even if it was not easy to explain what happened in the past to him, he still should not have did what he did and vaguely told Kousuke to wait for a while until he's ready to explain.
Sorry my grammar in the last sentence was messed up because I was crying and my mind was a mess.
Umm this isn’t as easy as to compare with murder because it’s not like Saku cheated on him or told him he was just playing with him all that time. If he did he would actually be shitty. But Saku probably loved that glasses guy in the past whom left Saku to get married and probably said something along the lines of “did u really think we had future together?” or something like that. I’m not saying that what Saku did was correct and yeah Kousuke was probably heartbroken but Saku was too. This isn’t a situation where he can just explain it to kousuke and then kousuke will say “it’s okay I will never leave you” but the thing is that won’t solve anything because Saku will think that he is robbing Kousuke away from a happy marriage and a happy family as well as fear that Kousuke will realize how worthless (even though he isnt) he was and leave him. Because just as you said Kousuke deserves better than Saku, Saku probably believes that too and that’s why he left Kousuke and that’s why he put a divide between them. Yeah you can say that “why can’t he just realize he will be happier with Kousuke and go back to him?” And the thing is it’s not that easy to tell someone to “hey! Love yourself! And do what’s best for you!” that they will suddenly get cured of their self hatred and guilt.
Hmm idkkk dude, it’s important to remember that Kousuke isn’t entitled to Saku’s feelings/love just because he’s loved him for so long. Did he break up with him in a shitty, heart-breaking way? Absolutely! But he broke up with him because he felt like he couldn’t give him the love he deserves because of his past relationship trauma! And that’s perfectly fine and a normal way of expressing those feelings! Not everyone is willing to “talk it out” on the spot, especially if it’s painful to do so. Like I feel like people forget that trauma and poor mental health don’t often manifest in healthy behavior, and expecting otherwise is crazy. I’m not saying it’s an “excuse” buts it’s a considerable factor. There’s plenty of people who’re shitty people for no heckin reason!!
Sorry if this comes off strong but my point is that too many people expect healthy behavior from unhealthy people. It’s doesn’t make the action itself less shitty or toxic or whatever but it doesn’t make the person inherently shitty/toxic, uke clearly has pure intentions and feelings.
P.S- if we’re talking about murder then consider that the court will still convict the murderer, but if that murderer has mental health issues they will be considered by the court, and that’s because it’s valid.
Yeah my example went a bit extreme because I was getting emotional. And yeah what you said is right, Saku was cheated on and and it sucks, that glasses guy was a jerk and to still have the audacity to come to him again after doing that. But isn't Saku the same? He's just assuming that Kousuke doesn't love him that much and that he'll be happier so he hurt him and still has the audacity to see him again and treat him like nothing happened. Idk but I felt Kousuke quite a bit (though nothing such thing has happened to me). He has known Kousuke for so many years and probably knows what kind of person Kousuke is ( probably more than me who has only read 3-4 chapters) but at least he could have provided a better reason. The least a partner deserves is a proper explanation for a break up because they'll blame themself for not being good enough ( I've went through this). I, as a reader, want Kousuke to end up with someone better who can actually appreciate him and his feelings without him needing to prove it every second but I know he's gonna end up with Saku. If it was real life and Kousuke was my friend, I would just tell him to move on and find someone better. And if Saku was my friend, I would advise him to talk to Kousuke and atleast give him a good reason that till ease his heart and help kousuke move on even if they don't get back again. I think what ticked me more aside from the fact that he said that was the way he showed up again like nothing happened and the way Kousuke doesn't even blame him. So I guess I'm just getting mad on behalf of Kousuke. Maybe that sounds petty but I'm the type of person who takes action and has a pretty weird temper.
To me, that breakup was still quite bad. Maybe not as extreme as the other Yaoi breakups but it still hurt.
Mental health is a big problem and I only know a bit about it but I know that it doesn't make people go crazy. They still have control over their decisions and on Saku's case, aside from not wanting to have physical contact and seeing other girls getting too close to Kousuke may cause him to panic and remember his trauma. But its still the decision he made. I hate that glasses guy from his trauma but I also hate him. Isn't he being the same? After traumatizing Saku he still appeared and behaved like nothing happened. Saki did the same to Kousuke. If not for the fact that he's the official uke I would not tolerate him as much I'm doing. No matter what happens they're gonna end up together so there's nothing I can do but if it was real life and I was either of their's friend, I would not let them get back together. Mainly for the sake of Kousuke. After knowing Kousuke for so long, shouldn't he have at least given a better breakup? Or he should not have accepted him in the first place if he was gonna do this out of the blue. If he didn't accept him then I wouldn't have blame him and probably sympathize with him much more. But after accepting him and going on a date, he broke up. That was painful af. And not getting a proper explanation for an abrupt breakup is too ( I know that pain too well). That sh*t is traumatizing as well and affects mental health a lot. I had to go to a psychiatrist for that for half a year.
You see I agree that he did broke Kousuke’s heart but I believe the reason he can’t believe in Kousuke’s love unconditionally is because the last guy said that he was in love with Saku but then screwed him over like that and got married. I don’t think Kousuke blames himself for the breakup but still wants a reason bc he saw how hard it was for Saku. And also Saku didn’t just showed up unannounced in Kousuke’s life again 2 years had already passed and they met in a library or book store and also kousuke followed him to his university so i dont think that’s Saku’s fault. He treats him like nothing happened because its been 2 years and Saku did say that let’s turn back to how it was I mean kousuke could’ve said no to that but he didn’t because he loves Saku but Saku not being ready for a relationship is not Saku’s fault. He wasn’t ready so he broke it off and he also felt bad for breaking it off and because of his self hatred he felt like he wasn’t good enough for Kousuke. Saku himself is thinking all the things you’re saying about him.Saku also wants Kousuke to end up with someone who can appreciate him better, someone that doesn’t have all that emotional baggage and someone that won’t doubt his love. That’s why he broke it off, that’s why he moved away without telling Kousuke. So in that regard Saku and you are actually thinking about the same things. You hate Saku for acting like that and Saku hates himself for acting like that. The reason why I think he can’t explain it to Kousuke is he knows Kousuke will say that he will love him and that he won’t be like the last guy and that he can decide who’s good for him but Saku feels like by making Kousuke say those things he will be making a disservice to Kousuke. He believes that Kousuke will get the short end of the stick and he know Kousuke is good and nice so that’s why he will feel more like he is taking advantage of Kousuke’s kindness.
Thank goddess someone else actually comprehends the storyline! Whew! I thought I was crazy for a sec!
I understand where you’re coming from but it seems like you’re forgetting that Saku does actually like/ have romantic feelings for Kousuke!! He didn’t just show up and act like nothing happened, they go to the same school, at Kousuke’s decision, and when they broke up saku said he wanted them to go back to their previous relationship, friends! So he wasn’t gonna avoid him or anything and he chose to help when he was drunk because that’s what friends do! He was trying to return to a normalcy that he created (sleeping with other guys and being friends with Kousuke) because of that triggering event! Yeah, poor mental health doesn’t make people “go crazy” all the time, they do think and have control over decisions but their way of thinking is flawed! To Saku, he IS thinking logically and marking the decision to return their relationship to how it was so that he doesn’t get hurt and doesn’t hold Kousuke back! WE know that’s wrong but HE doesn’t and that’s not his fault! I’m sorry you had to go through what you did, abrupt break ups suck, I know, but knowing the reason behind someone leaving you or rejecting your love doesn’t make it easier, trust. In this situation we know “the why”, so it’s like why do expect Saku to be the big person here.
The fact that gensouke's grandpa is now dead makes it even more painful.
Strong female lead? Whoever added that tag seems to have wrong definition of "strong" in his mind.
AGREE
The seme is much more understanding than me. If my boyfriend went on a date with another girl even under those circumstances, I would still kill him. Both of them are so cute and perfect for each other. And the uke reminds me of touch-me-not plant lmao.
Omg the roommate is so nice and imo cuter than the actual leads.
YES! I'm so here for a Kagerou spinoff!
Lol that was such a clever and sweet confession but he never opened it. It's like when you put ring in wine but she drinks it all.
I was crying but all I could think throughout the letter was: Huh. Ok he loves him and regrets everything he did but so what? It's too late now. Its more than late. It's not just a simple breakup but a death. You can reconcile after a breakup but after a person dies, you can't do anything at all. The second lead is so pitiful. I hope he finds someone for him who'll love him.