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But don't judge too much, depression is really strong, its not only "wanting die", it also includes some hygiene sutff

But she does not want to die. She wants to live, that is where my frustration with the hygene comes in. It creates a stereotype: all reclusive people have no sense of hygene. I cannot believe that all reclusives are okay with living in a room full of mold and with super dirty blankets.

being depressed is not just about dying, it is literally so much more than that. if you've never been depressed, you wouldn't be able to understand someone who actually has depression mindset. just because they don't fit your cute little mold of how recluses and depressed people should live doesn't mean you need to judge them about how they actually live. not everyone lives like her obviously but some do.

@nihi - hence why I emphasised on needing a therapist and why I do not have any empathy for the lack of hygene. She is not depressed, but mentally exhausted and wants to escape reality. Depression is a mental illness. She would have been happy with the just attention. There is a difference between those. Not all reclusive people are letting themselves and their room become a health hazard. In this webtoon, in just a week or so, she got an entire room moldy and completely dirty. I mean wth did she do? This just creates a really bad rep and further increases a prejudice.

I feel kind offended by your judgmental remarks as a person who does suffer from depression.
When I was at my absolute worst, this was how I lived, and went as far as 1 year of continuous isolation, and just like that, it was my mother who would pick up a struggling person and throw in the shower, etc.
I managed to make a perfectly healthy person, suffer from acute gastritis from prolonged periods of non eating, had constant body aches from not moving sufficiently, etc.
It took me 3 years to actually go back to a functional member of society, thanks to a lot of patience and caring from the people around me. Understanding is fundamental and sometimes, it needs physical strength, because even tho some of us aren't suicidal, this kind of behavior is basically suicidal, not eating, not moving, not sunbathing, it cripples people.
You may not understand, nor agree to why people do things like this, and honestly even I think it's disgusting and probably so does the character.
But she doesn't need you judging her, she needs you to give her support so she finds the strength to get better, because depression isn't a matter of going to the doc and gettong meds, it's about the internal fight against giving up everything and having the strength to move on.
So if ever you find someone in your life, don't push or force them, give them time, tell them they are wanted and that you love them, because that's what will give them strength to go to a therapist, want to get better, have a better life.

the point is as you said: you HAVE depression. She does not have a mental illness or depression. Having depression or being reclusive do not exclude one another. You can be reclusive and not have depression and vice versa. She is burned-out. Depression is not something you switch to. She was okay when she first isekaied, then was deemed useless and then became reclusive and fed up. Watch her actions, words and thoughts again. There is a diference between clinical depression and being fed-up with the world and becoming reclusive. The latter does not need further stigma and the whole making your room moldy in such a short time is overthetop.

God, you're impossible

Wow. You’re disgusting. I really hope you aren’t trying to go into any industries that involve empathy because you sure as fk don’t have any. You are literally pulling at everything you can just because you don’t like that this biotch hasn’t showered. How is it that you are the only one who seems to care so much? Ooooh, maybe because it’s OBVIOUS as to why she hasn’t showered. She definitely has mental illness, despite the fact that you believe will all of your spiteful heart that she doesn’t. If everyone with a mental illness had to straight up say they have a mental illness for anyone to notice, we would have a more fked up world than we already have. In conclusion, you aren’t making and sense so STFU.

depression isn't only about wanting to die it's so much more..clearly you never had depression and before you are going to judge someone like this you should educate yourself.

Diagnoses are made by specialists, not the patients themselves you know. There are medical criterias to be met. She does not meet them. 42 people liked my comment, so obviously I am not the only one cringing at the over the top description. And you clearly read my comments sideways, I am talking about the freaking MOLD/FUNGUS, not the part of not showering. You guys need to read again slowly what I wrote.

sure.

I get both sides tbh. But seeing snippets of her past, kinda indicate that she has depression. The lack of hygiene is a side effect of that. Tbh, the only explanation of depression I can really show, is that your in between wanting to better yourself and wanting to shut yourself off. Your too tired of living, too tired to die and too tired to take care of yourself.

I agree that she needs therapy, but then again she is in an isekai world with possibly no therapist available.

Although she is a fictional character, I felt her so hard, because at some point in my life, I did have an extremely depressive episode. In which the lack of self care and lack of eating is my indirect way of killing myself, although I wanted to live. But was too burnt out to live.

As you are hellbent in emphasizing that the fungus/mold is what disgusts you. I suggest you reread your comment. Because obviously what you were actually pointing out is her lack of hygiene resulting to molds and fungus growing in ther room.
Also, since you pointed out that only experts can point out those with depression. Maybe a humble opinion from a person diagnosed with depression and severe anxiety, as myself, can clear your narrow mind.
In depressive episodes, this happens. Yes. Lack of hygiene and lack of appetite is very common to people with depression. The reason is we are too tired to do anything. We can stay in bed for days on end without feeling hunger and feeling the need to clean anything. Explaining why to you might make your tiny empathetic brain swell and explode.
Why can we say that she has depression?? Because we can see ourselves with her actions and habits. Thats how depressed people like us function when we have our episodes.
Its good that she has the king to force her to bath and clean her space because it will be great for her.
What she doesn't need are people like you who are just " eeww, yuuck, youre disgusting, im not judging buuuut"
You are the worst kind of person around people who suffers like that.

And for you to say she doesn't meet the medical criteria.. are you a doctor to say that?
Then anchoring the strength of your argument to 42 votes?? What are you, a middle schooler??
Probably.

thank god someone has the same point of view.

Your comment is so classist. It is a PRIVILEGE to be able to see a therapist and get diagnosed. They’re extremely expensive and if you can’t afford insurance, you won’t be able to afford a therapist. It is perfectly fine to self diagnosis yourself as long as you have done thorough research. I suggest you do your research before talking out of your ass and being judge mental. Therapists understand that everyone cannot afford a diagnosis so they have created many resources for people to self diagnose themselves such as this one https://drspar.com/depression-stress-anxiety-test/. Also, if you’re okay with living in an unhygienic setting then you clearly are something some mental issues going on. It’s not just being “lazy”. I sympathize with people who live like this and understand how hard it is to change their lifestyle and want to seek help.

Also to add on to what you’re saying, people who live like this aren’t mentally well. I hate how people just write this off as the person being lazy and disgusting. Like do you think people want to live like this???? Do they think people who live like this are mentally well??? She literally has FUNGUS growing in her room and dust everywhere yet this person wants to act like the FL is perfectly fine and is just being lazy. I’m honestly so disgusted. How can you lack this much empathy and common sense??? If she was just lazy she would have asked the maids for help. She obviously has something going on with her and has become adjusted to the situation. There's nothing wrong with having a mental illness, but people need to understand that it’s not that easy to seek help and get it. Why is it so hard to be a decent human being and have some empathy???

she actually does have depression, people act differently with their depression. there isn’t one way. i don’t know why you’re speaking over people who have shared their depression stories, i’ve sure they know more than you.

You guys are so based that you are reading comments sideways and putting words that I did not even say. Never did I say that she is disgusting, never did I even mention about her bathing or staying in bed. You make your own narrative. I SPEAK ABOUT THE PORTRAYAL, NOT HER FREAKING ACTIONS.
How on Earth are you okay with reclusives being portrayed to have the ability to infest a room with fungus in a week? In a freaking week! This just makes it look as if reclusives are a biological hazard for the environment. Yes, fungus is toxic. No, humans do not have the ability to infest a room with fungus in a week when they do nothing, no matter how depressed or reclusive they are. This portrayal generates an unhealthy stereotype. Your room will not grow fungus in a week of doing nothing. AGAIN it is about the time you dimwits.

"but my sympathy ends at the hygiene part. If you just want to live and breathe at least try to get some air in and not fungus. Someone below said very well that she needs therapy, not isekai. Like a really good therapist."

these are your words...you did not spoke of the logic in there and it's completely different topic than the one you mentioned above.

How does it create a stereotype???? This is a REAL thing people go through. Many people throughout this whole thread have told you that they’ve been through this and have had a similar experience to this girl. If you don’t clean your house for 3 months mold will start to grow depending on how dirty you make it. She wasn’t in her room for one week, but 3 months. Idek where you got 1 week from. She literally says herself,” It’s been three months since I’ve come to this world. I’ve become the perfect recluse bum.” You’re literally delusional. All you’ve done throughout this thread is speak over people who suffer from mental illness and stepped all over them whenever they have conveyed their similar experience to you. No one cares if you find this disgusting or have no sympathy for her. It just shows that you’re a terrible person who doesn’t want to understand the experiences and feelings of the people with mental illness. You even invalidated people who self diagnose themselves like omg. You’re such a shitty person. You’re not a psychologist nor do you seem to suffer from mental illness so stop judging people and invalidating them. Also, it doesn’t matter how many fucking likes you got. MULTIPLE people called you out for your shitty behavior. Just because you got a bunch of likes doesn’t mean what you said wasn’t ableist

He was fine as hell I won't complain lol