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I'll say this since you seem like a nice person who has been fed a very biased version of what happened in the past. Take everything they tell you with a grain of salt. MD (the real one) and his friends have a tendency to play victim and look for pity through dms. They are not as innocent as they led you to believe. They have called people rapists, trolls, gaslighters, stupid bitches, and cyberbullies. They have created and posted lists of users so that they and their friends can easily track and monitor people they've disagreed with. They have created alts to support themselves when they felt like they were losing an argument. They have impersonated two other users, one of whom was a minor that called them out for sending inappropriate messages. They will privately message users to persuade them to support them and help fight their "bullies" (something I assume they've done with you). They've even harassed a user into deleting their account.

MD and his friends have been active participants fueling the negativity in this comment section since July. In my opinion, this is their karma. They finally messed with a group that is more than happy to sink their teeth in and not let go.

WOW okay. So I've been lied to?

That explains one of the users that deleted their account. I think their name was Tora that silently deleted their account.

Not necessarily lied to because they definitely believe their own words. But you've been told a story from someone who cannot accept when they have done bad things, because in their mind, they are always right.

Ah, okay

Yes, pigglypoof is lying to you. They are one of them. They are gaslighting you. They claim to not know them but know everything about them. They tried to silence TM. You are now being fed a biased narrative from pigglypoof. PP is describing their side. That group PP has talked about always came after them since the beginning. PP is part of that group.

But at the same time, they did address your side as well. You're statement kinda sounds aggressive.

I'm actually so confused rn

Tora is another one of MD's alt account's, at the time I see that he also had these alts Belovedrose=the fake rape victim he created to be able to hold more weight into saying that Jaekyung never raped dan, Torazake, roaman, Tmsmyz
This is the user MD harassed to the point of deleting her account
https://www.mangago.zone/home/mangatopic/14646951/ If her friend never added this topic in her likes, I would never have found out what sort of stuff happened back then

[I'll say this since you seem like a nice person who has been fed a very biased version of what happened in the past. ]

MD and friends are always honest.

[Take everything they tell you with a grain of salt. MD (the real one) and his friends have a tendency to play victim and look for pity through dms. ]

MD and friends never played victim and never looked for pity. PP is gaslighting you thinking the targets are to blame.

[They are not as innocent as they led you to believe. ]

They want to talk about the story and facts. Each time this started. They were talking about Jinx, sharing facts, or defending someone being attacked. The group that PP is part of has been after them since day one. If the group did not attack people or using stupid tactics then we would not be here.

Md and people have been called rapist, rape apologist, rape defenders, and more and more people
[ they have called people rapists, trolls, gaslighters, stupid bitches, and cyberbullies. ].
They used reverse psychology. Some didn’t understand why they were always attacking over a lie to they pretended to be a cyber bully and used how they were treated to show the cyber bully what they are doing, so the cyber bully would stop.
They have not called anyone a rapist but one person who deserves it. Reverse psychology isn’t calling someone a rapist. Most of the time they would said stop trolling or stop being a troll. It is about actions not calling someone a troll. When they called someone a troll is was from their actions and behavior and sometimes that person would call themselves a troll. Saying you are gaslighting me isn’t calling someone a gaslighter. This group jumps to conclusions and don’t read what was actually said. They would attack and then ignore they started it by attacking them in the first place. PP is white washing their group that has been in the wrong. PP knows most of that is said pretending to be a cyber bully and return what they received. It is fake but yet PP tries to discredit them and lie about them.

[They have created and posted lists of users so that they and their friends can easily track and monitor people they've disagreed with.]

This is a lie. The times this is done was a warning to other since they were attacked. They don’t tract or monitor anyone. It is PP’s group that tracks and monitors them since the disagree with the truth. Pp’s group is not disagreeing with them. That is that hate group false narrative.

[they have created alts to support themselves when they felt like they were losing an argument.]

That only describes the hate group. MD and friends posted the truth and never felt like that and never created alts.

[ They have impersonated two other users, one of whom was a minor that called them out for sending inappropriate messages. ]
First PP is mistaken the ones that impersonated two others were not apart of the group that PP is trying to make them out to be. Second, the “minor” tried to frame the real one when the real one had them blocked. They used one of the cyberstalkers accounts that stoled their identity with an alt account to tried to frame someone not interested in that person.
[They will privately message users to persuade them to support them and help fight their "bullies"].

Never.

[something I assume they've done with you). They've even harassed a user into deleting their account.]
Never. They never harassed anyone but defended themselves from this hate group that has been harassing them.


[MD and his friends have been active participants fueling the negativity in this comment section since July.]

False. They defended themselves from it and have been saying stop to this hate group since September. Especially in October.

[In my opinion, this is their karma.].
PP needs to understand Karma and Karma will come back to them. MD and friends never deserve this.
[ they finally messed with a group that is more than happy to sink their teeth in and not let go.]
Finally? Since the first day. Same people different accounts. It is a coordinated harassment effort.

PP is gaslighting everyone and talking about the hate group instead of the targets that want to talk and share about the story.

Correction: MD and friends: My main account and my alt accounts. I feel as though I have supporters if I talk about myself in the third person.

Tora and MD meet a few years ago on here. whoever is behind that impersonations are so obsessed with MD. MD account was made last year he couldn’t create an account that is older than his. Belovedrose was made a few years ago. She is a rape survivor. That person saying she was a fake rape survivor = they are a rape apologist as they are denying her rape.
Tang ina was one from the hate group and harassing MD and friends.
Tora defends a user. tang ina will come attacking. She mocked them and made fake warnings.

They avoided Tang ina.
They couldn’t harass her.

She was called out as she pretended to be “new” but let it slip she had fought Tora. Which that makes it only a few people and if it happened after rose was attacked then it can only be one person. Since they were actively avoiding HELPMELMAO. They avoid tang. They did try to make mends with her. She wanted to harass them. Then pretend they were harassing her.

When she threatened MD with a lie about them. MD fixed a few things and exposed what she said.
She did a character assassination on them with lies. If you read those links in her post. She gaslighted the situations because she is part of the hate group that has been after them. That person behind the impersonating can be tangina as she loved to harm them. That person said she loved to come back to harass them. It would make sense that tangina is part of what is happening. She like pigglypoof has too much hate for MD and friends. It says Tangina and PP are alts.
Roaman was a random person that they like to make them. That is how obsessed they are with these few people. This group has always been after Tora and friends for basically no reason but to silence them.

Little MD minion, y'all have had every opportunity to redirect your attention to talk about the story if that was truly the goal. Yet at every opportunity, you choose to engage in bickering and fighting instead. You create all these new accounts that could be used to read and talk about manhwa, but what do you do with them? You send them straight to whatever thread you're arguing in to keep fighting. You sowed the seeds, so now you reap the rewards. Congrats. You finally found the attention you so desperately desired.

I didn’t mean to sound aggressive. I had to read it back.
Here I will try again.

Pigglypoof comments are misleading. They seem to be twisting the narrative and gaslighting. TM has always tried to provide clear explanations, but Pigglypoof's group has consistently attacked them. PP has tried to silence TN.
It looks like Pigglypoof is part of that group and is now presenting a biased perspective with many lies.

I am sorry you are confused but that is what they want. I know this is confusing but don’t let yourself be gaslighting by them.

PP did not address any side but their own.

PP meet TM in October. PP tried to pretend to be new but knew things and their hate showed.
PP will chase them here to only gaslighting and attack them.
TM makes a few comments about the story and this hate group starts in and then everyone thinks TM starts it when TM didn’t. TM is mocked and ridiculed to being harassed. He leaves and it is four days later MD points out to PP TM left four days ago. That tread is deleted.
PP has it out for us and has a hate for us that doesn’t make sense. They do seem to have a grudge against Tora. PP is quick to twist things too. Tora made a called out and blocked someone after the conversation was going no where and it was clear there was no communication. PP tried to make that an attack and used a statement against them. PP is not saying or seeing the truth here. They have been misinformed and we have tried to correct it but they seem to be part of that hate group.

Belovedrose literally spoke exactly like tora, md, tmsm, roaman and all those alts of MD. Exactly the same. The same kinds of dramatic sentences using the same weird words. Everyone individually came to the conclusion that she was just an alt who coincidentally appeared when no one was agreeing with TM that Jaekyung never raped Dan. Whereas when there's an actual rape victim involved, you insulted her, dismissed her, and harassed her. In that same thread you tried to differentiate the types of pedophilia and excused your grooming of bailey who's 16 by saying pedophilia is 13 and below. Whichever old thread I come across people are suspecting all these weird broken AI people who have the same rape apologist views to be the same person. Obviously that's the case. And obviously you cope by saying the ''real MD'' doesn't engage when it's always been him. Even by your own story, that'd make you so obsessed with MD when you know all the exact details that happened with all these people almost a year ago.

Now don't be condescending to your one and only supporter Usually you immediately go on to insult the user for being a gaslighting troll hater cyberstalker when they're immediately not on your side Saw this happen too many times for me to keep count

I am not talking to PP. I am avoiding them.

Let’s address this.

[Little MD minion, y'all have had every opportunity to redirect your attention to talk about the story if that was truly the goal.]
Gaslighting.
the redirecting or asking for civil conversation happened a lot. It was ignored to attack TM and friends. TM tried hard to clear the misunderstandings and have civil conversations. TM and them said to stop and tried to make amends.

[ Yet at every opportunity, you choose to engage in bickering and fighting instead. ]
False! Gaslighting. TM and friends are harassed and they defended themselves. The fighting and bickering wasn’t them. They wanted it to stop.

[You create all these new accounts that could be used to read and talk about manhwa, but what do you do with them?].
I have no idea what they are talking about. That is the hate group false accusations as they try to discredit and intimidate their targets.


[You send them straight to whatever thread you're arguing in to keep fighting. ]
What a false statement. This is not happening. Since the beginning they tried many things to get the harassment to stop. They defended themselves and others. What fight? They have asked this group to stop since October many times.

[You sowed the seeds, so now you reap the rewards. ]

They did not sowed those lies and that works for them too. They can weep what they sowed.

[Congrats. You finally found the attention you so desperately desired.].
What is PP on? That describes the hate group. PP is not talking about the targets. PP is a cyber bully and going after the targets that have been always targeted for talking about the story, defending themselves and others, and sharing facts.
They used many methods to get this hate group to leave them alone and PP comments are misleading. They are twisted everything and gaslighting people.

all because of a disagreement online? I strive to be that motivated TT

Guys, it's never that serious.

All this yapping and we haven’t even had an update yet jinx readers are a different breed

While I read PP to combat their lies I slip over the one that stolen the identity of MD. They do this to repeat the same gaslighting and use the same tactics to get a response from their targets. They are showing they are harassing their targets when their targets are not here. They had to make me the real MD.
From what I read it seems like this person is gaslighting and manipulating the narrative. They're spreading lies and using intimidation tactics, like claiming multiple people are one person. Despite us pointing out their actions, they continue to use these tactics. A call out isn’t an attack.

They even claim their targets write the same way, despite using articles from various sources and they did copy and paste many things. They were testing different methods and the hate group failed. One post had up to 16 people’s lines and they were the same person. They posted an article and they were the same person. The hate group showed they are gaslighting and using intimidation tactics.

They don't know us and are making many assumptions. This coordinated harassment involves repeating falsehoods and it seems to convince themselves of their gaslighting. They use a debunked frame job to target MD which MD had nothing to do with that. We never harassed anyone. One could claim that but it wasn’t meant to be like that and we guess that is why she started to impersonate TM and MD. She has been inactive and maybe she will start seeing we are not her Nemesis. She has been her own nemesis. She has to admit, she told MD to kill himself, she used straw man arguments and never give him a chance. She didn’t listen to him. None of them listens or sees their assumptions were wrong. They just let their hate fester and talk about people that don’t exist and pin lies on their targets.

When you talk to … say TM or MD then read what the hate group writes about them, you know they are lying. The hate group have never got to know them. They just attack them and make false accusations to where they defend themselves against them. This page and this hate group has shown TM and friends don’t cause this. TM and friends are not the bad guys here. PP and others has been redirected many times and keeps the same narrative. That shows who is responsible for this.

Exactly. There is really no point of arguing anymore about this shit.

Jinx haters* this page the haters are more active.

Like.

There is really no point of this shit

They seem intent on intimidating and silencing MD and friends. It's sad. Whenever TM talks about Dan, they attack him. When MD defends someone, they target him too. They ignore their own actions and blame MD or TM, twisting the narrative to make it look like MD and TM started it, which isn't true. Sharing information to help someone isn’t harassment.

This group has been targeting TM and friends from the start with different accounts, constantly twisting events. We've tried redirecting them, but they persist with their lies. They jump to conclusions and don’t even know MD or any of us.

Tora is assertive and calls out cowardly comments, yet they twist it to claim Tora called them cowards. They misinterpret statements and take things personally. MD is direct, calling out trolls based on their comments. If MD calls someone a troll, it's because of their actions, not just a disagreement. MD posts facts and research, responding to how they're being treated, not seeking drama. The attacks stem from persistent harassment, with twisted information making it look like MD and TM are at fault. In reality, this defines the ones attacking them.

Oh! As I said Tora had many reasons for leaving, including not wanting to witness certain things. You see he’s a university student and was rarely online, but the hate group made it seem like he was constantly online and fighting, which actually describes them. Tora didn't post much when he was active. He deleted his account to avoid the backlash on things he didn't do.
Before he deleted his account. He saw a few posts on here that could planted seeds and grow. He wanted no part in further harassment.

The targets have faced attacks, insults, gaslighting, twisted facts, straw man arguments, ad hominems, and more for over a year, even though some just wanted to discuss the story. Some didn't like the story and weren't left alone. Beloved Rose dropped the story and left, but the harassment of TM caused her to return. Tora was neutral and didn't read many BL stories. The hate group imposed their views and ignored many things. They never actually talk to Tora or them. They just want to be right and blame others for their behavior as they attack others who are different from them. Many of the ones they attack were Jinx fans. They have silenced many of the fandom here. They are ruining this site.

Yup. All because of a disagreement about Jinx. This should've ended last July, but they keep coming back, finding new people to argue with, and starting the cycle all over again.

Just to clarify, this isn't about a disagreement over Jinx. The real issue is the persistent harassment and attacks by a hate group targeting people they don't like. The haters continuously find new targets and keep the cycle going, regardless of whether the targets are present or not.

We're not the ones starting the cycle; we're engaging in discussions until we're attacked. This problem existed before us and is a result of the hate group's behavior, not the targets. It's important to recognize the real issue: the harassment and silencing tactics used by the haters.
Pigglypoof is trying to gaslight people and manipulate the narrative to make it seem like the targets are the problem and this hate group that PP belongs to has shown the targets are not the problem as they continue their attacks without them and did this before any of them were on the page. PP is misrepresentating the situation to shift blame.

It is not about Jinx. But how PP and their hate group treats others.

Just to clarify, this isn't about a disagreement over Jinx. The real issue is the persistent harassment and attacks by a hate group targeting people they don't like. The haters continuously find new targets and keep the cycle going, regardless of whether the targets are present or not.

We're not the ones starting the cycle; we're engaging in discussions until we're attacked. This problem existed before us and is a result of the hate group's behavior, not the targets. It's important to recognize the real issue: the harassment and silencing tactics used by the haters.
Pigglypoof is trying to gaslight people and manipulate the narrative to make it seem like the targets are the problem and this hate group that PP belongs to has shown the targets are not the problem as they continue their attacks without them and did this before any of them were on the page. PP is misrepresentating the situation to shift blame.

It is not about Jinx. But how PP and their hate group treats others.

raws plsss

https://tkor.mba/나를_사랑하지_않아도_19화.html

no. these were stolen from a FREE TRANSLATOR. who was not looking for ANY MONEY/ FAME/ ATTENTION. this affects you as well as the rest of us “good people”. now there will be no more english chapters. the manga stolen and uploaded here is from PAID sources. please do understand your mistake and i mean only to inform.

Then quit using this site as well, we already know that everything posted here is considered stollen from the author. What we're fighting for is that someone uploaded the translation without the team's permission thus if the translation decides to drop this then majority of readers who follows the translation group will be affected as well. Yes someone might pick it up again but that is only still a possibility. ┑(￣Д ￣)┍

Exactly, if there was a paid English version I would be paying for it. But because there are only Korean translations out there I can’t understand them.

i struggle with money so free things benefit me, like this site. we had been able to view/ speak with the translators prior to this stolen chapter 10 being uploaded. i mean this politely, please understand the difference between someone uploading something PAID for, and someone stealing something free and uploading it. the only point of this action is stealing from the FREE original translators.

If they weren't doing it for fame or attention, they wouldn't care if it ended up elsewhere. Are they an official translator? Do they have permission? Otherwise you're complaining about someone stealing from a thief, js.

it’s like how youtube videos get copyright claims for using a song in their videos. that company/label has a right to do as they please/ act as they please, for it is their song.

Are you trying to say the translator owns the comic? At best, it's like a nightcore song getting copyright claims.

for the sake of clearing up this misconception, i will explain what i meant. the original translator owns their translation. they stated and expressedly asked no one to upload them anywhere. it was my misunderstanding that this translator on mangago had stolen them. this is as far as i would like to discuss; i am busy.

thanks.

Your first language isn't English, right? I'm having some difficulty following you, but the only thing I care about is if they've gotten permission to make the translation. It changes the situation since (as someone who doesn't own the content), they don't really have the right to complain about someone stealing what they don't have the right to publish. I'm not gonna be at a loss if they drop it.

The translators are not complaining, we the readers of the translation are the ones complaining because the translators are saddened by this event to the point that they are considering to drop the series. We acknowledge that no one has the right to complain since only the author can have that. However look at this situation this way, assuming English is not your native language, you translated a song from your native language to english and produced it as personal copy that you decided to share to an exclusive group. However someone from that group uploaded that in social media without your consent and without proper citation or acknowledgement. How would you feel?

I don't know the translation group and maybe they aren't iffy. I don't trust groups that get antsy over their work appearing on these types of sites, especially considering how it isn't even theirs to claim to begin with and gives their group more attention. The person who did the recent translation and upload came forward and said it was a misunderstanding and they did everything themselves. It was a witch hunt over a misunderstanding. How would you feel? Curious.

If I were the new translators then I'd probably explain myself to the older translators and tell the bashers (us) to calm the f down XD
If I were the old translators then I'd probably do the same.
As for me, I haven't read that comment so i have nothing to say, I was commenting here in response to your earlier comments regardless of whether the issue has been resolved or not.
Lastly I'm also curious, in your earlier comment since you said you don't care if the series translation gets dropped. Why are you here? Why do care? War freak much? Toodles (⌒▽⌒)

I hate how this is so true HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH